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1821  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: November 12, 2017, 12:05:32 PM
for me gold becauce gold is quite stable rather than bitcoin. bitcoin need more time to steady. gold is more valuable in the market.

Everyone has his own point of view but I think of bitcoin as more appropriate choice than that of gold is also a very good way of investing money but investing in gold will not help in making any fruitful amount of profit. If you really want to make money then you have to invest in bitcoin. But prior to investing in bitcoin, you have to learn the things well. Only then you can earn something good.
well i agree on that everyone had its own way of handling decision to gain but in my part i believe that bitcoin is  really more profitable than gold in terms of investment.because if we buy btc we can buy it in a low price while in gold we  cant buy it low because its price is always high.and its price will not goin to change in a short period of time while  btc price is unstable and we can learn through buying and selling it.
- Yeah, we need to define one thing clearly that we invest because of profit, gold can be said to be a safe and stable investment but profit is too low, not too many people become rich when investing in gold, however, many people are becoming rich and becoming new millionaires with bitcoin. That proves that the profit of bitcoin is much better than gold, we only need to compare the price of gold and bitcoin in the past and present, we will see the difference too obvious, bitcoin grows every hour, every day, and increases over time very quickly, while gold does not have too much development. So, in the present moment, we should choose bitcoin, a trend and an ideal investment for the future, gold is just the past, we should ignore it
1822  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can cryptocurrency make real money disappear? on: November 12, 2017, 11:28:08 AM
Cryptocurrency can not make real money disappear maybe more precisely cryptocurency is a new innovation in finance and has a very large power
- Agreed, it will not make real money disappear, cryptocurrency is only a new payment method in the future, people will use cryptocurrency to transactions become more convenient, we can send money and receive money everywhere in the world with cryptocurrency. But it just stopped at that level, it will not affect the real money, people still need real money, it is accepted everywhere and very popular, using real money has become the habit of many people around the world, they can not give up this habit, even when cryptocurrency grows stronger and more popular, they are still not too trusting it, they only believe in real money, cryptocurrency still many restrictions
1823  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: November 11, 2017, 04:41:52 PM
There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?


It will always be unpredictable just like any other market. I think trading is not for everyone it's for only those who knows and understand everything about the crypto currency. You should know the difference between the coins and trading requires research about the coins and you need to keep updated yourself with news and everything related to it to make profitable decisions. If you keep investing on others suggestion then you will most likely end up loosing your money.

- Of course it is unpredictable, trading is a job that is related to the element of luck and demand to buy and sell, these factors are unpredictable, if we have guessed these factors, we have become rich, we will not need to analyze here and market research. And not everyone is suitable with trading is a correct thing, each person has a different capacity, there are good people in this field, there are good people in other fields, so not everyone can be good and successful in trading, trading is a job that requires a lot of knowledge and skills, special knowledge of market analysis and emotional control skills, if we do not improve our skills, accumulate experience and knowledge every day, the market will eliminate us very quickly.
1824  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Falling...Is it Panic Time? on: November 11, 2017, 04:26:35 PM
this day bitcoin price is huge dump, as of now the price of bitcoin is $6,400, well this is normal for bitcoin maybe some newbies investors are panic selling, it will go up again just keep holding guys.

Definitely, I will not do the same mistake again.  I panicked when bitcoin price goes down before.  And as a resupt i panicked sell.  I regret it because just right after several hours, its price goes up.  I promised now that I will not do the same mistake again.  I will just keep and hold my bitcoin no matter what.  Besides the profit I get is still higher than the capital I invest.
- Mistakes in the past has reminded us that we need to believe in Bitcoin, price of bitcoin will rise again and rise higher, there is nothing to worry and panic selling when the price of Bitcoin fell, even that is a good opportunity for us to buy more bitcoin. The price of the bitcoin decreases then it will rise sharply back and break the old price in the past, a scenario that often happens with bitcoin, if anyone has experience in this situation, they will always choose the holding and waiting, selling soon will only make us regret and enrichment for the other traders in the future. Bitcoin is a good investment and potential, believe in it, it will not make us disappointed
1825  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the economy situation in your country that bad? on: November 11, 2017, 04:11:52 PM
It seems there are bad news all around with doom and gloom. Trade figures going down, jobs cuts, security situation not going well, and bad loans.

Is the economy situation in your country that dismal? Or this is just some fear mongering?



i think poverty,corruption,and being greedy with power was the most main reason why our economy is not that good in ph....unemployment was getting higher,low salary high expenses.just hoping that the recent administration will take part even just to ease the situation.and im waiting for that moment.
- The economy of my country is similar to that of your country, people working for the government, especially the police, they are people who regularly participate in money laundering, corruption, they do not care about the people, in their eyes only money and money, live and die of others, they do not care. The government does not make any good policies for the country, they always look for ways to tax with the goal of making a lot of money, that money will fall into their wallet, they do not bring that money to build and help the country, I believe that sooner or later the country will be destroyed by them, I just expect to earn enough money and take my family abroad looking for new life, without any hope in this country.
1826  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: November 11, 2017, 03:56:24 PM
I think it's hard to get the bank disappear because of the bitcoin, because the bank has been around for a long time and that's the economic pillar of a nation, so I'm sure bitcoin will never replace the bank. but bitcoin can be the same for the bank I believe can happen, because bitcoin users are getting more and more. not just from one country but already used by people in many countries.
- Yeah, Bitcoin will not be able to make the bank disappear, the bank is under the management of the government, they will not allow bitcoin to make the bank disappear, although Bitcoin is becoming popular but many still do not believe in bitcoin, between bitcoin and bank, they always choose banks, they trust the government than Bitcoin. In addition, many people know and support bitcoin still need through the bank to invest and withdraw profits from bitcoin, so if the bank disappears, I think the person who has the biggest trouble will be us, we will have no place to convert bitcoin into cash, Bitcoin needs banks, not banks need bitcoin
1827  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the best coin to buy today? on: November 10, 2017, 03:52:09 PM
The best coin to buy today and for a very long time will be Bitcoin. Yes there is the MimbleWimble protocol that created the Grin blockchain that will be issuing their own currency, but that is still in development and a couple years away. That is it though as any altcoin that has value is there to "solve" a problem Bitcoin has right now. Thing is BTC is scaling as it should and will replace alts when it keeps improving.
I will also suggest him going for bitcoin but not for eth. Eth is a useless coin and if you really want to invest into some good altcoin, go for waves. Waves are doing great for now and as afar s bitcoin is concerned, it is the best coin ever.

Bitcoin is the leader of all digital currencies. Bitcoin has created many millionaires in short time span and experts are expecting much more from the coin.
- I do not think eth is a useless coin, it's really a coin that many people appreciate it has a lot of potential, it only ranked behind the bitcoin, many experts say it will probably pass bitcoin in the future, but you say it's useless, I can not agree, you should research about it. If you do a comparator between waves and eth on this forum, I believe the result will prove to you that eth is a lot better than waves, the best coin to buy today I think is I can not answer because every one will have an analysis and a different prediction on the market, maybe I think it is good but you think it's not good and vice versa. However, I also want to say my opinion about the best coin to buy is still lisk, eth and bitcoin, I can say that these are coins that have a large number of supporters and potential in the future
1828  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: November 10, 2017, 03:26:16 PM
Absolutely yes. Bitcoin cannot replace fiat because most of the country don't consider or allowing bitcoin as a real currency. As long as they don't allow bitcoin as real currency there are no possibility of replacement currency. Aside from that bitcoin value is just depending on fiat and even if bitcoin price will increase, still it cannot replace real money.
- Exactly, bitcoin can not replace fiat, the government will not allow that to happen, they can not manage transactions around bitcoin, they can not let bitcoin replace their money, that will cause a lot of problems, the society will be chaotic because the occurrence of bitcoin, illegal activities will occur more often. In addition, bitcoin is still only a virtual currency, 1% of the world's population knows about bitcoin, it is not so common, everyone likes to use fiat rather than bitcoin, fiat has been the habit of everyone, fiat is more convenient than bitcoin, there is no reason to replace fiat
1829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you would win a Jackpot what would you do with the money? on: November 07, 2017, 03:23:21 PM
If i'll be lucky and given a chance to win a jackpot 1st i will go to church offer prayers and give thanks to the Lord,second i'll be sharing 1/4 of my winnings to my family and friends ,3rd i will invest business and in bitcoin last i will save the rest of the money for the future.
It seems that you have planned since a very long time that what you would actually do with the winning. If I am given such a choice I would definitely use the money for the sake of for aiding my family as we all are going through some sort of financial crisis these days.

Secondly I just would try to fulfill one of my biggest dreams i.e. eradicating poverty from my beloved country. Anything that I would be able to do net in such a perspective will not be less than an accolade and reward.
- Well, want to win a jackpot, I think we will be a people can say is super super lucky, truly, the percentage to win a jackpot is very low, even until I died, I think I still can not win the jackpot. However, if I fall into this situation, I think I will be very happy, and I will use the money I win to buy everything that I dream of, then enjoy life with my family, around the world with them, finally I will build an empire for myself, I want to build a chain of my own company but this is just a dream too far away for me, better I should wake up and focus on the job
1830  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade or Hodling on: November 07, 2017, 03:08:32 PM
I will stick to day trading rather than holding because holding is boring and since i don't have any things to do everyday because i am not employed then day trading is my primary job and i will do my best to earn profit per day at the minimum of $100 per day and i will keep rolling them until i got my first million and buy the finer things in life.
- Agree with you holding is something quite boring, we just wait and wait but profit can be said is quite good and the most special is that it is quite safe, not too much risk,and you do not need to spend too much time on hold. With day trading, profits are very high if you have enough experience and skills but the risk is not small, you will always face many different risks every day, success with day trading is not a simple thing, sometimes you just need a little mistake, it will also lead to huge consequences. So I think you should combine the day trading and holding, both will support each other, helps you limit the worst situations that can occur
1831  Economy / Economics / Re: The Real Reason to Hold Gold And Bitcoin on: November 07, 2017, 02:52:52 PM
gold and bitcoin are excellent investment vehicles. we will get many benefits from both. Because by simply holding back the two will be profitable in the future.

Holding gold and bitcoin certainly has an opportunity to earn big profits in the future, as both have excellent progress as long-term investments. With a little patience to hold it in the next 2-3 years time will certainly be able to see the benefits that fit with what is expected of the investment.
- Yeah, gold and Bitcoin are two ideal investment options provide a source of huge profits, especially Bitcoin, the value of bitcoin is increasing dramatically recently, many people investing in bitcoins very soon and now they are really getting rich with bitcoin. However Bitcoin still have certain risks, we can not put all the money into it, so we need a safer option, that is gold, although the profitability of gold is not high but it is stable and long term, holding both will help us to optimize profitability, mitigate risks. Huge profits, limited risk is the real reason for us to hold both gold and bitcoin
1832  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin will survive after 100 year ? on: November 07, 2017, 02:16:41 PM
I am not really 100% confident that Bitcoin lasts 100 years. Especially now that more and more projects with solid technology are in the market. What I am confident is that Bitcoin will most probably continue to rise in few years. 
- I do not think so, I have faith that Bitcoin will exist after 100 years, however, as you say technology will grow more every day, its number one position will be replaced by another currency, the value of the bitcoin will decrease significantly but bitcoin will still exist, nothing can make bitcoin disappear unless there is no internet. But at the moment I think we should not be too concerned about bitcoin after 100 years because we can not live 100 years anymore, bitcoin will change and no longer develop, it will not affect us, we only need to know our era was the heyday of Bitcoin, Bitcoin will grow the most strongly and make us richer
1833  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think billionaires invest in BTC? on: November 06, 2017, 02:50:01 PM
I just always wonder if those billionaires still invest in btc. Do they even know btc exist?
Of course they knew about it because i doubt if they didn't know about it especially those billionaires who own many companies in local and international. And surely about it is they also invest in bitcoin because they know that bitcoin's price is expensive so if they own some bitcoin it remains their title of being a billionaire.
I also think billionaires're investing in BTC. They may be more knowledgeable about bitcoin than we think. Bitcoin prices have a share of the impact from them.

Yes they are smart because they know how to deal with money than us. So i think that they have already invested in some coins not just bitcoin but also other coins.

They have a lot of money so investing doesn't mean anything for them.
- Well, actually, the billionaire is also very interested and is investing a lot of money in bitcoin because bitcoin is a phenomenon, a potential investment  and it brings a huge profit, they will not miss the opportunity to make money, the attraction of bitcoin is too big for them, they can not refuse. However, I also see the fact that when we ask them about bitcoin, they always say they do not invest and do not care about it or they care but they do not invest, they always lie, the truth is they always accumulate a large amount of bitcoin and invest a lot of money on it. Many people also spoke out against Bitcoin but still invest a lot of money in Bitcoin, people really are funny, maybe they do not want many people to know about bitcoin, they want to make money alone, they do not want to share with others, they are too selfish
1834  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: November 06, 2017, 02:34:14 PM
2017 is no doubt a year of bitcoin. People havn't talked so much about it before. Also it's dramatic price growth shows that it's just the beginning.
- Yeah, this is really the boom year of bitcoin, the price of bitcoin is rising very fast and there is no sign of stopping this year, it attracted a lot of new investment, the governments of countries around the world are also interested in it more than ever. We can see the present value of bitcoin, that's more than $ 7000, a number that many people never thought of, but now it has reached, it has proved the infinite potential of bitcoin, 2017 is the year marking the beginning of a new era, the era of bitcoin, the era of digital money. And this is also the year we get great things, bitcoin has helped many people to live better and richer, really is too great
1835  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: November 06, 2017, 02:19:18 PM
I'm currently mining altcoins, and when it will be enough of them I will buy a couple of antminers and start to mine BTC
And when it will be enough btc I will go to the trip across the whole world
- If you talk about mining in the past, I think your plan will be great, but at present, mining is not bringing too much profit, the time to recover the capital is quite long, I do not think you should continue to invest in this field. Instead, you should use the profits from mining altcoin to bring in the trading market, which can help you grow your profits very quickly, it will have a certain risk but if you seriously and learn the knowledge and skills about trading, you can reduce the risk and increase your chances of success in trading. You should think about what I say, invest wisely, do not waste time on things that do not bring too much profit.
1836  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: November 05, 2017, 04:52:05 PM
Join the exchanges and you can trade to earn more BTCs, but you have to be very careful as the mentality of the investor can fall very quickly because of the constant price drop and my advice is to be calm and Try to make the most profit
- Well, trading is a job that can help us develop our bitcoin in the best way, however, the risk we face is so much and unpredictable if we do not have the skill and feel we are not wise in trading, we should stop thinking about participating in trading, it will only make us lose money. And I suggest that these people should hold the bitcoin for a long time, it will be safer and they will still get profit, although profit is not higher than trading but it is still quite good, trading is not an easy job, not everyone can succeed and develop bitcoin with trading, careful and calm are the things that are essential if we want to succeed and limit risk in trading
1837  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: November 05, 2017, 04:36:27 PM
yes i'm putting all my salary in bitcoin because I still have another source of income which is my coffee shop so investing for a long term in bitcoin is one of the reason why i have a coffee shop right now and also have a car and condominium unit. But always remember that there's always a risk on investing.
- If you have a different source of income and it can help you pay for the expenses of your personal and family life, put all monthly salaries in Bitcoin is not a big problem because it does not affect your life too much. However, you also need a clear plan and specific strategy because the price of bitcoin is gradually increasing over time, we need to calculate the risk in it and determine the right price for us to invest, should not buy at too high prices, that only made our money into a situation more dangerous, personally, I think you should stop investing in bitcoin, risks are becoming greater, if it collapses, you will lose a lot of money
1838  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with the people who don't like Bitcoin? on: November 05, 2017, 04:01:55 PM

It just takes too much time and energy to waste your breath on these people because for every ONE of these people who don't like Bitcoin there's three or four people willing to learn and have an open discussion about things and aren't stubborn for whatever reason.
- The best thing is that we should smile and ignore them, do not try to explain or persuade, all is meaningless to them, it is their loss, not our loss, they like and earn money from bitcoin, we do not get anything from them, why we should waste our time on them. I never do things that I do not get good results and benefits, instead of creating meaningless conversations with them, we should spend that time earn more bitcoin or accumulating more knowledge about bitcoin, they will soon realize that what they say is wrong, we do not care too much about them
1839  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you USE your BTC? on: November 05, 2017, 03:46:14 PM
I very rarely use bitcoin to buy something, mostly bitcoin I use for trading in the market, but for now I hold my bitcoin, because at this moment bitcoin the price is rising very high and I wait for the best time to sell it
- I am similar to you, I also rarely use my bitcoin to buy something, except for the emergency and really needed, if not, I will not carry my bitcoin out to use because I always have many reasons to believe that the price of bitcoin will be higher in the future, spending right now is a waste and giving us regret in the future. Mostly I only use my bitcoin to trade, this is where there are many opportunities to get us more bitcoin, although the risk is high, but the profit it brings is not small, however safety is above all, I also just used the part to trade, the rest I saved in my wallet
1840  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: November 04, 2017, 03:07:35 PM
It depends. If it is a new coin, I will set about 10% profit to sell. If that is an old coin, I will sell after it rises.
- Well, that depends on the potential of the coin and our calculations, before buying, we always need to identify and analyze all the factors that can affect the price of a coin then we will determine the price that we should sell and the price we should cut losses. Personally, if I surf the market, I usually determine the profit is around 5% to 7%, I'm not too greedy, greedy will make me fall into the stupid trap, if I hold in short when there is good news or that is potential coin, I hold in long term, my profit target is around 20% to 40%, sometimes can be less or more depending on the situation
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