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1821  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 02, 2017, 04:26:41 PM

Stamp motoring now.

$2 to go. Volume increasing. ~300 coins left.

Grab'm by the p*. Make Bitcoin great again Wink  <-- this message will self destruct in 12 seconds b4 mods arrive.
 
1822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 02, 2017, 02:45:45 AM

Actually @stealth923 that's the Monero professional partnering guide you've just posted. iB was just doing his job promoting it Wink

(Apols to bigrcanada1 who's now facepalming despairingly no doubt. Well intended appeal falling on deaf ears  Cheesy ).

Please stop engaging.
1823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 02, 2017, 12:33:55 AM

That's called attacking the attacker

Well depending on how disturbed one is between the ears it's usually called...



...although you do seem partial to a spot of seduction yourself   Wink

deranged Scientology thug.
1824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 01, 2017, 05:06:46 PM

I'm sure there are trolls not only here but everywhere that waste weeks if their short lives... Trying to make others feel miserable.

You don't say. Occasionally the impact can be spectacularly entertaining. (Health Warning: Not family viewing  Shocked )
1825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 01, 2017, 02:38:17 PM

Whereas Dash was back to square one after it's "natural adoption driven slow and steady rise".

Terms like "square one" are not exactly very quantitative. For a start I've no idea what chart range you're taking that from and, given that it's now a 3-year old coin, it has a load to choose from.

The most authentic long term indicator readily available on the crypo-charts might be the 21-week EMA, where there's no "going back to square one" indicated at any point in the coin's history.

Moreover, this is the least favourable measure - pure exchange rate per coin against bitcoin. (And so excludes relative marketcap growth and Bitcoin's growth against the dollar).

Marketcap against bitcoin is even more favourable, specially after BTC's halfing. Then exchange rate with the dollar is even more bullish again.

(This is all against a background of probably the least active year of the 3 in terms of news and fundamentals due to the intense amount of preparation work going on for the next major release).

1826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 01, 2017, 10:10:37 AM

Hello cryptohunter or whoever you are today.

Looks like the only "trapped newbies" (other than your good self) are the ones who listened to this kind of bs year in year out.

instaminers...paid shills....massive attack vector

1827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 01, 2017, 08:17:07 AM

...forgetting that Dash price does a full retrace after each pump.

1st pump = retraced to a 2500% gain level at its lowest point
2nd pump = full retrace that lasted all of 10 days
3rd pump = retraced to 100% gain level at its lowest point
1828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 31, 2017, 07:11:27 PM

I seriously doubt the feds are going to be able to coerce view keys from transactions to put any links together.

They don't have to. The job's done for them by providing them with a nice neat "black hole" to stand guard over.

For crypto to work as money, it has to have a "face" in as many sectors of commercial and economic life as possible because one economic sector "levers" the value from another in a way that goods and services can't, being sector-specific. Thats what makes the $USD the criminal currency of choice - because it can be earned illicitly in one sector and pop-up somewhere completely differently to be spent on kids christmas presents.

The second thing is, as far as surveillance goes, no cryptocurrency networks (obfuscated or otherwise) tell you a thing about identities unless you're already in possession of significant off-chain information. That can only be gleaned from the entry and exit points to the coin supply - i.e. commercial trading, exchanges, wage earning etc. So if you create an unbacked monetary network that is entirely obfuscated then you're basically kissing goodbye your long term value proposition from widespread adoption on 3 counts:

1. all your boundary points will get regulated out of existence by virtue of tainting the entire network as a suspicious trading indicator

2. you'll end up getting used exclusively as a sector-specific payments system instead of a store of value which leaves you wide open to any competing technology that happens to provide the same service as yours does but cheaper, more conveniently or more reliably

and that's without even considering the biggest ticking-timebomb calamity of all...

3. Confidence. As I explained in this post, the whole point of the Satoshi transparent model was to 'fix' the one thing that has always prevented a trust-free decentralised token from taking hold and garnering real monetary value - public confidence and how to "not" puncture it. It's unlikely that bitcoin would have made it through all its various rollercoaster rides of the last 8 years IMO without complete and un compromised transparency. Gox, malleability crises, heists - you name it. Whether the Feds are crawling all over it isn’t the point. The point is it has the public crawling all over it every minute of every day which is why it remains robust in the face of rumours, scams and technology crises.

The reason why Dash’s privacy model is miles ahead of anything else is because it looked beyond the horizons of "technological obfuscation" and dealt with each of those 3 points independently.

All the cryptonote model does is deny those challenges even exist and bury the whole blockchain from sight. An exercise in nerd-wizardry but monetary gimmickry and not exactly an inspiring prospect. But then again as I’ve stated, that approach was never invented for defining trustless money anyway.

It was invented for carrying bank-backed credit money which is why obfuscation (encryption) was made the priority over authenticity.
1829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 31, 2017, 06:27:29 PM

....you can only do so using a co-ordinated campaign of hype, fear-mongering, strawman threats, trolling the competition and spending a ton of money on pink bentleys & $250k market pumps just when your 4-Hour MACD's about to get flushed down the toilet. (Easier if only 1 exchange is involved  Wink ).

Ah...I forgot one. "vainglorious name dropping"  Cheesy

If you ain't got the fundamentals (or you only got the fundamentals of a tunnel) then that's important also Wink
1830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 31, 2017, 06:14:32 PM

Can you answer why  XMR supporters are radically aggressive appearing in each and every single thread, flooding the discussions, and FUDing all the coins that appear on their way?
Not just DASH but all other coins as well?

The answer to that question was posted here.
1831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 31, 2017, 05:51:56 PM

oh boy

Got to give them credit for getting away with selling sand to the Arabs.

(Specially when 99% of the transactions use Poloniex's 'obfuscation' services anyway and not Ring CT's  Cheesy )
1832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 30, 2017, 04:57:16 PM

Last chance to exchange 10 XMR for 1 DASH"

As I understand it, the "Hopium Blue sky Happytalk" beta's will have some kind of native collateral pooling, so there will be a far wider participation and not the same correspondence between a particular person's holding and a masternode. (Similar to what Node40 etc do at the moment).


1833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 28, 2017, 11:59:03 PM

Do you still assert that "cryptography has never been a significant part of cryptocurrency", tokonormal?

You only found 1 clanger ?

Apparently there are 5848 posts in there. Im sure you can deplete the accuracy rate more than 0.017%. Get digging. (And always remember to quote out of context - you'll have more impact that way   Grin )

The "clanger" was that I replaced the word "encryption" with "cryptography". The correct quote would have been "cryptocurrency does not use encryption" (which was actually more supporting of my case than what I posted - so feel free to keep citing it).

Here's the original audio so you can rest your weary eyes.



To recap:
***********************************************************************************************************

 • "Encryption is the branch of cryptography that deals with how do you hide data" (what you don't what you want in an unbacked, un-nominated monetary token)

 • "Signatures is the branch of cryptography that deals with how you authenticate data" (what you do want in an unbacked, un-nominated monetary token)

***********************************************************************************************************

I quoted that in the context of a discussion about the merits of burying public addresses - who's anonymity is already protected by a 1-way cryptographic hash - in yet another layer of encryption. The reason I questioned it is that by doing so you're loosing all the advantages that technology was designed to deliver - i.e. a transparent and public network which could engender a massive level of confidence & integrity without any loss of security over the ability to control the address balances.

The only financial networks where you need "hiding" in favour of "showing" are legacy assets that predate the invention of transparent cryptographic tokens, i.e. records of credit which are nominated (in terms of a personal or corporate entity) and backed (by a trusted party such as a cryptocurrency exchange for trading balances or a bank for fiat credit balances).

On the other hand, where a base asset is concerned that has no owner other than the possessor (like a diamond, lump of coal, gold nugget or bundle of grain) the monetary priorities are reversed. Transparency is paramount or you've got a potentially valueless asset due to the poisonous ambiguity you injected into the system from trying to hide its significant properties.

Conclusion: cryptocurrency technologies that try to market themselves as "obscured" are selling hot air. A technology that's 10- a penny, been in use for decades in various forms including SSL and available to you independently of the purchased asset. If something has value, people will find a way to hide it, it doesn't concern them whether it comes "with its own safe". What concerns them is that it has value and the way to increase value in an unbacked asset is to dispel ambiguity, not impose it.

Meanwhile, optimising anonymity in the sense of real cash through transparent fungibility is a very different and far more worthwhile pursuit in terms of adding value.

Put another way, by remaining both transparent and fungible, Dash protects its holder's privacy while keeping itself out of the blockhchain obfuscation scam.
1834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 28, 2017, 11:35:38 PM

infamous for being the most brainwashed, clueless DashHole around and making the most galactically stupid assertion ever made on this forum... DigitaltrASH, the epitome of "harmful garbage and dysfunctional software"

Hey, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

Don't you think you'd have at least as much fun learning the guitar solo from Bodhisattva as purusing a 3-year degree in uninformed verbose monotony on the Dash forum ?

You wouldn't want to hit 80 thinking this could have been you Wink

Here's a starter to get you going....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ0WD8uBWaU
1835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 28, 2017, 03:52:43 PM

and so it begins....

Indeed. There's not a payment system on the planet that doesn't support transacting privacy.

Meanwhile, there's not a base, unbacked monetary asset on the planet that derives its value from obfuscation.

Therefore, if you build the former and want to pass it off as the latter, you can only do so using a co-ordinated campaign of hype, fear-mongering, strawman threats, trolling the competition and spending a ton of money on pink bentleys & $250k market pumps just when your 4-Hour MACD's about to get flushed down the toilet. (Easier if only 1 exchange is involved  Wink ).

Then again, you never know - maybe your staff would feel just right at home there Cheesy

1836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 28, 2017, 10:14:23 AM

Monero's FFS successfully implemented RingCT, a brilliant new way to ensure fungibility...

...of transaction IDs Cheesy
1837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 04:30:25 PM

1838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 09:41:08 AM

"The Soda Machine Wars".

I have been attacked

Will make a class chapter when the history of Dash is written Wink
1839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 26, 2017, 10:20:46 PM

Well, as the anointed most "thoroughly brainwashed cult victim" (Nº 1 apparently Wink ) I think I should at least have a say on this, which is that  - you're all wrong  Cheesy

The only enforceable authority that the masternode voting has is over how to spend the block reward budget. Any other voting is basically an opinion poll of the holders, but as such it still serves a purpose because the three other stakeholder quadrants (miners, developers, merchants) all have it in their interests to carry mutually supportive sectors with them.

(For example, it's in holders interests that miners are attracted to the network, it's in merchants interests that developers give them a roadmap to future-proof their commitments, it's in miners and merchant's interests that holders don't dump and crash the value because things are going in a sh*t direction that they don't like etc). There is also some indirect enforceability in that voting can deny development funds to the currently endorsed core developer group to the extent that they are getting financed directly from the blockchain.

So the voting is what it is - everyone will draw their own significance from it. Voting couldn't enforce the blocksize change, but on the other hand consider what would have happened if if the vote had gone against and the devs had still implemented it and the miners accepted the upgrade. There would have been a public fissure in the stakeholding community that would be fairly categorical and visible. Markets would then price that discord accordingly.

Aeroplanes have something called a trim tab on their main directional control surfaces. It relieves the stress on the cables connecting the pilot's inputs with the elevators and rudder by replacing the mechanical pressure with aerodynamic force at source, thereby placing the entire aircraft back into a state of aerodynamic equilibrium for a given configuration of main-surface deflection (take-off / cruise / approach). However with everything else in balance, the trim tab can actually change the direction of the aircraft on its own.

Dash masternode voting is a "trim tab".

The main "control surfaces" are the 3 big stakeholder sectors - miners, developers and merchants (including exchanges) IMO, and the voting creates balance by adding two things:

 • supplying enforceable and final judgements on the allocation of budget assigned block rewards
 • providing directional stability in ambiguous situations with respect to the other 3 "stakeholder quadrants"

1840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 26, 2017, 07:38:00 AM

the epitome of of "Marketing over Tech."

Just to let you know that Dash market is just commencing a 1-hour chart correction for a while, so you can take a tea break if you need one. (Your bud here will make you a cup that's agreeable  Wink ).

Normal services should commence in about 10-12 hours. (Woudn't want you overworked and needing to join him  Cheesy) ).
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