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Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX transactions the entire point of Masternodes? Not even close. The masternode network could prove to be the biggest advance in crypto history, leading to all kinds of cool applications!
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January 30, 2017, 10:07:10 AM |
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Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX transactions the entire point of Masternodes? Not even close. The masternode network could prove to be the biggest advance in crypto history, leading to all kinds of cool applications! OK, so *at present* (leaving aside what "could prove to be the biggest [blah blah blah Hopium and Blue Sky happy talk]"), isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX transactions the entire point of Masternodes? And I'm only talking about their functions at the protocol level, not their socioeconomic use as a Ponzi scheme that builds up unsustainable numbers of unsold and unsellable coins.
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January 30, 2017, 11:14:51 AM |
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It all takes time, so you need to look at this in perspective: Isn't facilitating DarkSend the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend, InstantX and Governance the entire point of Masternodes?.... To be continued ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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January 30, 2017, 11:56:09 AM |
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It all takes time, so you need to look at this in perspective: Isn't facilitating DarkSend the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend, InstantX and Governance the entire point of Masternodes?.... To be continued ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) omg... MN will facilitate more thing in the future ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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January 30, 2017, 03:25:55 PM |
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It all takes time, so you need to look at this in perspective: Isn't facilitating DarkSend the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend, InstantX and Governance the entire point of Masternodes?.... To be continued ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) omg... MN will facilitate more thing in the future ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Evolution ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Longer term, yes. But in the short term it looks like we are going to be adding 2 more services to the list by the end of the week! A year from now ICY will be posting about how masternodes ONLY perform 6 or 7 valuable services for the network.... oh and probably something like "Sinking ship! Last chance to exchange 10 XMR for 1 DASH"
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January 30, 2017, 04:57:16 PM |
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Last chance to exchange 10 XMR for 1 DASH" As I understand it, the "Hopium Blue sky Happytalk" beta's will have some kind of native collateral pooling, so there will be a far wider participation and not the same correspondence between a particular person's holding and a masternode. (Similar to what Node40 etc do at the moment).
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January 30, 2017, 05:29:29 PM |
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It all takes time, so you need to look at this in perspective: Isn't facilitating DarkSend the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend, InstantX and Governance the entire point of Masternodes?.... To be continued ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) omg... MN will facilitate more thing in the future ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Evolution ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Longer term, yes. But in the short term it looks like we are going to be adding 2 more services to the list by the end of the week! A year from now ICY will be posting about how masternodes ONLY perform 6 or 7 valuable services for the network.... oh and probably something like "Sinking ship! Last chance to exchange 10 XMR for 1 DASH" and most likely he will be trying to short Dash as well link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1079682.msg11530024#msg11530024Its okay Icey, we know deep down you just loveee trading Dash.
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January 30, 2017, 06:18:20 PM |
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Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX transactions the entire point of Masternodes? Not even close. The masternode network could prove to be the biggest advance in crypto history, leading to all kinds of cool applications! I think their main purpose is acting as regular nodes providing a robust network infrastructure. So you never get that "No block source available" message or wait for a week for the blockchain to download from some random shitcoin miners's ancient PC on a dial-up connection ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 30, 2017, 07:00:03 PM |
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It all takes time, so you need to look at this in perspective: Isn't facilitating DarkSend the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend, InstantX and Governance the entire point of Masternodes?.... To be continued ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) omg... MN will facilitate more thing in the future ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Evolution ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Longer term, yes. But in the short term it looks like we are going to be adding 2 more services to the list by the end of the week! A year from now ICY will be posting about how masternodes ONLY perform 6 or 7 valuable services for the network.... oh and probably something like "Sinking ship! Last chance to exchange 10 XMR for 1 DASH" Wich ones exactly? Thanks
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January 30, 2017, 07:25:16 PM |
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It all takes time, so you need to look at this in perspective: Isn't facilitating DarkSend the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend, InstantX and Governance the entire point of Masternodes?.... To be continued ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) omg... MN will facilitate more thing in the future ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Evolution ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Longer term, yes. But in the short term it looks like we are going to be adding 2 more services to the list by the end of the week! A year from now ICY will be posting about how masternodes ONLY perform 6 or 7 valuable services for the network.... oh and probably something like "Sinking ship! Last chance to exchange 10 XMR for 1 DASH" Wich ones exactly? Thanks I'm thinking low level APIs (allowing users to integrate existing software and experiment with Dash before it goes completely live) & sentinel superblocks ? But i could be completely off here. edit : contracts could also be seen as a service
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January 30, 2017, 07:28:02 PM |
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It all takes time, so you need to look at this in perspective: Isn't facilitating DarkSend the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend, InstantX and Governance the entire point of Masternodes?.... To be continued ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) omg... MN will facilitate more thing in the future ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Evolution ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Longer term, yes. But in the short term it looks like we are going to be adding 2 more services to the list by the end of the week! A year from now ICY will be posting about how masternodes ONLY perform 6 or 7 valuable services for the network.... oh and probably something like "Sinking ship! Last chance to exchange 10 XMR for 1 DASH" Wich ones exactly? Thanks I'm thinking low level APIs (allowing users to integrate existing software and experiment with Dash before it goes completely live) & sentinel superblocks ? But i could be completely off here. Yep. Backend features for the masternode network to support future evolution developments. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fwo0ZZ4L.png&t=665&c=yeVwlVLnSWzVWg)
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January 30, 2017, 07:31:47 PM |
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It all takes time, so you need to look at this in perspective: Isn't facilitating DarkSend the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend, InstantX and Governance the entire point of Masternodes?.... To be continued ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) omg... MN will facilitate more thing in the future ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Evolution ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Longer term, yes. But in the short term it looks like we are going to be adding 2 more services to the list by the end of the week! A year from now ICY will be posting about how masternodes ONLY perform 6 or 7 valuable services for the network.... oh and probably something like "Sinking ship! Last chance to exchange 10 XMR for 1 DASH" Wich ones exactly? Thanks I'm thinking low level APIs (allowing users to integrate existing software and experiment with Dash before it goes completely live) & sentinel superblocks ? But i could be completely off here. Yep. Backend features for the masternode network to support future evolution developments. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fwo0ZZ4L.png&t=665&c=yeVwlVLnSWzVWg) Nice to see that phase overview.
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January 30, 2017, 07:45:53 PM |
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It all takes time, so you need to look at this in perspective: Isn't facilitating DarkSend the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend and InstantX the entire point of Masternodes?...time passed... Isn't facilitating DarkSend, InstantX and Governance the entire point of Masternodes?.... To be continued ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) omg... MN will facilitate more thing in the future ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Evolution ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Longer term, yes. But in the short term it looks like we are going to be adding 2 more services to the list by the end of the week! A year from now ICY will be posting about how masternodes ONLY perform 6 or 7 valuable services for the network.... oh and probably something like "Sinking ship! Last chance to exchange 10 XMR for 1 DASH" Wich ones exactly? Thanks I'm thinking low level APIs (allowing users to integrate existing software and experiment with Dash before it goes completely live) & sentinel superblocks ? But i could be completely off here. Yep. Backend features for the masternode network to support future evolution developments. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fwo0ZZ4L.png&t=665&c=yeVwlVLnSWzVWg) Thanks both.
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January 30, 2017, 08:33:46 PM |
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Nice to see the "try hard" from the trolls while I was on vacation. The responses from the community were very informative to any lurkers.
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January 30, 2017, 09:36:45 PM Last edit: January 30, 2017, 10:07:57 PM by AzzAz |
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Nice to see the "try hard" from the trolls while I was on vacation. The responses from the community were very informative to any lurkers.
Time for them to go back to "instamine" argument...
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January 30, 2017, 10:21:28 PM |
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I'm thinking low level APIs (allowing users to integrate existing software and experiment with Dash before it goes completely live) & sentinel superblocks ? But i could be completely off here.
Oh, you mean like what Maidsafe is doing? Check out the 3rd paragraph where they talk about being able to test applications with a simulated network. https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-january-26-2017/12300
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January 30, 2017, 10:30:40 PM |
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I'm thinking low level APIs (allowing users to integrate existing software and experiment with Dash before it goes completely live) & sentinel superblocks ? But i could be completely off here.
Oh, you mean like what Maidsafe is doing? Check out the 3rd paragraph where they talk about being able to test applications with a simulated network. https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-january-26-2017/12300I'm not interested in Maidsafe, thank you very much. And before you mention it : no, i'm also not interested in Shadowcash. Dash has my full attention currently, and has been for the last two years. I dont see that changing anytime soon tbh
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January 30, 2017, 10:37:04 PM |
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Solarminer, weren't you one of the guys that sold all his Dash in dramatic fashion a few months ago (and lost out on a 100% gain)? If so, does that mean you are now part of the paid Monero troll squad? Just curious so that I know how to categorize you.
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January 31, 2017, 01:10:39 AM |
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Thanks for fleshing out exactly what I meant by blue sky Hopium with all the wishful thinking about life in Dufftopia.
I'll take that as acknowledgement that Masternodes *currently* serve no purpose other than facilitating two unlicensed money services, which are transmission and laundering.
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