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1841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao - Who are you taking? on: May 05, 2015, 03:22:35 AM
Im honestly surprised so many people here have posted saying they thought Pacman won the fight.
Manny clearly didnt fight like he normally does and it was very easy to see that there was something "strange" about how this fight was going from the 3rd round till the end.

Manny is a pressure fighter who moves forward and throws punches in bunches, especially when he is fighting someone who lacks power.
Manny seemed lethargic and was just wasting time.

Floyd....... well Floyd was Floyd.
He always dances around and doesnt really do anything exciting.
If you honestly look at the stats, there is no way a reasonable person can say Manny won the fight.

The real loser in this fight (as usual) is US the boxing fans.
We once again get sucked into the hype of a super fight only to be disappointed (AGAIN) by another boring, sleep walk to the bank.

Boxing has a real serious problem on their hands- you have screwed your fans over and over again and the fans are growing tired.
With the UFC and other sports available to fans, boxing will see attendance and PPV buys fade away in the future.

Did it surprise anyone that immediately after the fight, Pacmans camp claimed he had a shoulder injury??
Of course....because they need an excuse to try and sell a rematch.

Anyone who buys a ticket or PPV for the rematch deserves to have their money stolen....i mean thats as insane as giving Mark Karpeles money for a new investment.

I will never, under any and all circumstances, buy a boxing PPV event ever again.

 


manny fought differently because his normal style would have ended the way the last Marquez fight ended. Watch the last flurry that manny had, mayweather threw a kill shot that manny just dodged. That punch would have knocked him into next week, and they both knew it, so Manny slowed down and Floyd sat back in his shell and waited to land it again.

Also, the boxing is dead stuff needs to stop, boxing is declared dead after every big fight and then we all come back like the trained monkeys we are. To be perfectly honest, me and my friends spent a lot less money Saturday night than we would have if we went out.

Mayweather is going to beat some jabroni to tie Marciano and finish his showtime deal, it will be exponentially smaller than this fight, but he'll get paid. He'll go away for a while let someone else rise to prominence, and then decide that tying marciano isn't enough. They'll hype up that fight bigger than this one, everyone will buy it, and then after he wins a boring decision everyone will say boxing is dead again, until the next time it isn't.
1842  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 05, 2015, 03:03:26 AM


We'll keep doing that as long as king dipshit keeps ignoring that his bullshit promises and failures are the reason all the other dipshits are in the position they are in know.

And also because none of these "paycoin companies" make any sense whatsoever.
1843  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 05, 2015, 02:59:19 AM
Has he ever given an explanation for how he got "locked out" of zencloud/base/whatever and what the fuck that has to do with anything. His dumbass sold the hashlets, his dumbass said there would be compensation, how long with the other geniuses fall for nonsensical excuses?

Explaination: http://www.bci.io/files/gaw-bci-lr-executed-redacted.pdf

It's at the bottom where he signed it.


So the 3 companies josh named himself king of gave a copy of the database to some other company someother made himself king of and now Josh's hands are clean?

That's why I have no sympathy for anyone involved in this mess. It's obvious that everything is bullshit, but even if it somehow wasn't, it still would not make sense to give anyone involved in this thing a fraction of paycoin because they're all either incompetent, scammers, or both.
1844  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 05, 2015, 02:00:35 AM
Has he ever given an explanation for how he got "locked out" of zencloud/base/whatever and what the fuck that has to do with anything. His dumbass sold the hashlets, his dumbass said there would be compensation, how long with the other geniuses fall for nonsensical excuses?
1845  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 05, 2015, 01:58:25 AM


How would $100,000 help the coin today?

Anyone?

Anyone at all?


Forget that money, discussing what happened 4 months ago would be the key to stop anyone from losing any money, so I guess it's obvious why joshie poo would not want it discussed.

I know that everyone with an iq over 50 knew that hashlets and the 100 million never existed, but everyone by now should understand those things, and shouldn't trust Josh now because he was full of shit than and full of shit now.
1846  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 04, 2015, 04:32:26 AM
Can a scammer be stupid enough to fall for a scam like that?

Odds are he's either running that one or just hoping to rake in referral fees from his sheep and not risking any of his own money on that.
1847  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: cloud mining ?? on: May 03, 2015, 10:19:53 PM
Most likely a scam/ponzi.
What is the mining address of Bit-X ?

Don't know. BitFury does though, feel free to research them: http://www.bitfury.org/

What's cloudmining.website's mining address?

Around a month ago u were so confident in showing Bit-X mining address against someone enquirying about that and within a month somersault ? Customer is paying Bit-X not Bifury... LoLz Cheesy
Absolutely. Don't worry, Bit-X will prove their legitimacy plain and simple.

CMW does not need to show mining address as they are providing payment proof of last six months...

www.cloudmining.website/payments.php

Do you have payment proof or that is another secret of Bit-X ?

If they are mining why aren't those payments coming from freshly mined coins?
1848  Economy / Gambling / Re: Once Again Gayweather Won? Bring me back my Bitcoins! on: May 03, 2015, 10:01:05 PM
I knew mayweather was gonna win. He did exactly what everyone thought he was gonna do. That was one of the worst fights i have seen though.
Passive and boring, just as expected. I don't know why they pay him this much since has not much to do with entertainment.

Some people pay to see him win, some pay to see him lose, they pay though, so he gets paid.
1849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao - Who are you taking? on: May 03, 2015, 02:53:46 PM
Mayweather was easy money. Only the "Pactards" picked Pacquaio...

I don't get it why many people supported Pacquaio.
Mayweather was 48 games unbeaten which is a tremendous record.



Mayweather is a bad dude, so lots of people were rooting against him. Also, the hype for this fight was so big that lots of people that have no idea about boxing were interested and making bets. They did a good job hyping it up as 50/50 when in reality it was nowhere close to that.
1850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao - Who are you taking? on: May 03, 2015, 02:16:11 PM
Manny was going forward the whole fight, but he wasn't landing as many punches. He looked busier and was busier, but the judges look for hits, not punches thrown.

Manny won round 4 and 6 bigger than mayweather won any round, but not enough to get a 10-8.

It's the way boxing scoring goes, round by round, Mayweather won more rounds, he won the fight. I'm honestly disappointed that Manny thought he won the fight. If his corner told him that he was losing it would have made the last few rounds much more exciting.
1851  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: May 02, 2015, 09:37:23 PM
Think about why those coins were on Gox at that time and then think about the odds of you getting any of them.

You mean he only claimed they were there? If so then it could serve as an evidence that he actually was scamming. Opening possibilities to bring him to jail.

The coins were there because your fearless leader needed to use gox to accept preorders via bitcoin because he couldn't do it on his own.

The preorders were necessary to fund the project, yet months later, after everyone with a brain knew you couldn't get cash out of gox, the coins were still sitting there. Shouldn't he have cashed them out if he was really making miners?
1852  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 02, 2015, 08:32:36 PM
who wants to steal eric's idea and create a zencloud service that's public run?Huh? OMG!!! homero is going to "help" so you know its going to be good.
http://hashtalk.ch/topic/37283/crowd-fund-a-new-zencloud-platform-that-is-owned-by-the-community/70

I can't keep track of all the codenames, isn't zencloud just the hashlet ponzis? Or was that where you could buy and sell your pngs? Or is it some other part of the scam?

Either way, how exactly will the public running it help anything?

Ganza needs some monetary help funding the new platform.

He seems to have run out of excess cash and really wants to sell PNG's again.   Nothing would be community run just community funded.

So was zencloud just the pngs?

The lack of creativity that now he's moved onto "let's do what we did before, but better!!" is disappointing, but idiots falling for literally the same thing again is kind of funny.

This thread is 1800+ pages.  Suchmoon needs to update the TL;DR; Smiley

ZenCloud was the second iteration of ZenMiner *(Which was not Erics idea or baby -> http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-8-million-zenminer-investment-lie/)

ZenMiner was the hosted physical miners.  ZenCloud was the hosted digital PNG's.

All information obtained from public sources.

And these shitheads actually want to restart the png part? I don't get it it, there can't be people stupid enough to believe that hashlets were anything but a ponzi, how do they think starting the ponzi over again will help anyone but Josh?
1853  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is cloud mining reliable? on: May 02, 2015, 08:19:18 PM
No, it's not reliable at all.

If you do make a ROI, which happens very seldom, it's going to take quite some time for you do so. Also if a profit was to be made after that, you'll be looking at only a few satoshis after that. Most of the time the cloud miner that you're looking to invest it is probably a well thought out ponzi scheme like pbmining. In the end, it will fall.

I haven't tried scrypt and looking at the user above me, it seems promising, but in the end, it's still a cloud miner.
It's better for you to buy your own miner and when it can't pull anything more, sell it.

Home mining s long time dead. I do not think buying a miner can make you anything anymore.

Who s gonna buy used up and unprofitable miner?

If home miners are dead what exactly are the cloud miners running that allows them to make so much profit that it's profitable for you after you give them a cut?
1854  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 02, 2015, 06:45:24 PM
who wants to steal eric's idea and create a zencloud service that's public run?Huh? OMG!!! homero is going to "help" so you know its going to be good.
http://hashtalk.ch/topic/37283/crowd-fund-a-new-zencloud-platform-that-is-owned-by-the-community/70

I can't keep track of all the codenames, isn't zencloud just the hashlet ponzis? Or was that where you could buy and sell your pngs? Or is it some other part of the scam?

Either way, how exactly will the public running it help anything?

Ganza needs some monetary help funding the new platform.

He seems to have run out of excess cash and really wants to sell PNG's again.   Nothing would be community run just community funded.

So was zencloud just the pngs?

The lack of creativity that now he's moved onto "let's do what we did before, but better!!" is disappointing, but idiots falling for literally the same thing again is kind of funny.
1855  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 02, 2015, 06:40:19 PM
who wants to steal eric's idea and create a zencloud service that's public run?Huh? OMG!!! homero is going to "help" so you know its going to be good.
http://hashtalk.ch/topic/37283/crowd-fund-a-new-zencloud-platform-that-is-owned-by-the-community/70

I can't keep track of all the codenames, isn't zencloud just the hashlet ponzis? Or was that where you could buy and sell your pngs? Or is it some other part of the scam?

Either way, how exactly will the public running it help anything?
1856  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is cloud mining reliable? on: May 02, 2015, 04:39:02 PM
Why do you want to invest in cloud mining?

Why do you want to pay someone to mine coins for you when you can just buy coins?

there is only one reason, to increase your bitcoin amount, while you can do it with mining, you can't exactly do it with buying alone, unless you go with trading and you are good a t it

Where can you rent a miner that will give you more coins than you give them? Why would they do that?

this is not about renting but about cloud, if you reach roi, you are good to continue and take pure profit, renting on the other hand will never roi, if from who you rent knows  everything about crypto and sets a non-competitive price(but there are exceptions)

Cloud mining is either renting miners with a different name or a pure ponzi.
1857  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is cloud mining reliable? on: May 02, 2015, 12:03:06 PM
Why do you want to invest in cloud mining?

Why do you want to pay someone to mine coins for you when you can just buy coins?

there is only one reason, to increase your bitcoin amount, while you can do it with mining, you can't exactly do it with buying alone, unless you go with trading and you are good a t it

Where can you rent a miner that will give you more coins than you give them? Why would they do that?

Cause by renting hash ASIC manufacturers reduce the risk. If they sell us hash now, they receive money now, including markup, without being affected by price volatility, difficulty growth, etc.
In other words, they switch variable risk elements to the person who rents hash. Lots of other industries do this.

Do other industries do it with literal money printing machines?.

Any reason someone has to rent or sell you a machine is a reason that you shouldn't buy it. There's no way for both people to win. You will lose on the transaction unless you get out more coins than you put in (or more coins than you could have bought when you started). All the one's that have given more coins since the first asics have been shown to be scams. If you feel like burning electricity go for it, if you feel like doing the work to pass your space heater off to someone else on a site that lets you resell the hash go for it, there can't be a way for both people to profit off a money making machine that requires no work.
1858  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 02, 2015, 02:47:06 AM
Quote from: sharklasers, post:11364, topic:67
My money is on it not being Swiss at all. It's hidden behind CrimeFlare.

    hashtalk.ch
   
    Holder of domain name:
    Crypto Private Investor Group
    - -
    340 S LEMON AVE #8716
    US-91789 WALNUT
    United States
    Contractual Language: German

Matches with his new "Swiss" email address though.



I doubt this a lot, if you look at the uptime of HashTalk it was either 100% perfect or nothing was accepting connections. It's pretty obvious this move to a new domain wasn't due to claimed DDoS either, it's another part of seeing pigs.

    First registration date:
    2015-04-23

I hate those DOS attacks, should upgrade to windows 3.1 already.
1859  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 30, 2015, 11:05:08 PM
Anybody buying that "Team Paycoin" turned against poor old Homero may need to think twice. Poor Homero dang troll fudding team paycoin going against him. Haven't we seen this pattern enough to know it's complete bullshit?

Team Paycoin seems to be a bunch of shills.  Some of them are even mods on hashtalk and a bunch of them have active hashtalk accounts.
Yeah exactly. Still on the payroll for their weakest attempt at acting like they're turning against Homero.

The Paycoin foundation != Team XPY

Team XPY != The Paycoin foundation


And aren't both of them made up by people that helped perpetuate the previous scams?
1860  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is cloud mining reliable? on: April 30, 2015, 10:26:52 PM
Why do you want to invest in cloud mining?

Why do you want to pay someone to mine coins for you when you can just buy coins?

there is only one reason, to increase your bitcoin amount, while you can do it with mining, you can't exactly do it with buying alone, unless you go with trading and you are good a t it

Where can you rent a miner that will give you more coins than you give them? Why would they do that?
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