Wasn't Adam involved in that church where the ganza's were giving that video lecture until the scam started to get exposed?

Can someone summarize the Eric zencloud thing? And is he connected to ion now?

And is he really claiming that they weren't part of the same church? Did we all just imagine that in a linked fever dream?

Did you ever send a pm to Flooores before he sent you one?

Isn't the whole point of escrow to bring a 3rd party into the transaction? Why anyone would think they are using escrow because someone sends them a quoted PM is nuts. If you are using user: x as an escrow, be sure you are talking to user x.

What is there to know?

You gave your coins to Vern. he took them. Were you robbed? if you were robbed the best way to find out what's going on is to talk to the police officer you reported the crime to.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/4-decks/

This is the correct blackjack strategy. You can click around on that site and find somewhere where you can enter all the specific rules for the game you are playing and get an updated chart, but this should get you close enough.

Note that this strategy doesn't guarantee you will win (nothing can do that, that's why it's called gambling) but it tells you the best option in every scenario in blackjack.

Just to clarify, just because the odds always favor the house, doesn't mean there isn't a strategy. The odds favor the house in blackjack also, but there is still strategy in this. The odds favor the house in craps (except for the odds bet) but there is a strategy in knowing that some bets are worse than others (the field and big 6/8 are terrible, for example.)

I'm shocked that nothing came of that.

Almost as shocked as I was when he ran with the money.

Then stop telling people who are asking questions to move on. Let them ask their questions, and if you aren't going to give the answers, let the silence of the people that managed to lose tons of money in this industry speak for itself.

Why wouldn't ask questions to try to relieve some of that doubt be a viable option?

The fact that the investments are high risk doesn't mean you should maximize that risk by taking people (especially people with shit reputations) at their word and refusing to inform yourself.

I'm sorry that me calling you stupid for believing that garza sold you a $20 bill for $4 is going to push you all in to another idiotic investment via the same idiots that believed that.

Hopefully the other people around who actually know what the word reasonable mean know that it means figuring out what is actually going on and can see how little of a clue matlack has about anything and sit back and watch the world burn with us.

Every dice site has a house edge, that's how they make their money.

And yes it effects the odds. If there was no house edge you would get paid 2x on a 50% chance to win, because that is what is fair. If we flip a coin, it's fair for heads I give you 1 dollar, tails you give me 1 dollar. That is a fair game.

Casino games are not fair, they all translate into, flip a coin, if it lands on heads, you give me $1, if it lands on tails, I'll give you 95 cents (or something to that effect). That is the house edge.

Because the shitheads that post here think martingale is a good idea, so when they win 10 in a row and win 10 satoshis it's no big deal, but when they lose 10 in a row and lose 2047 it's the end of the world and the site is rigged.

Self appointed internet police in the department to make sure every knows your and Matlack's reputations so they can make an informed decision.

The truth matters in some things, but this particular truth is not worth the hassle of finding.

i would not invest in a coin run by someone involved in the gaw/paycoin scam. I would not invest in a coin by someone who lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in GAW when there were giant red flags as to how uch of a scam it was. Matlack is one or the other. The truth might matter for some, but not for me when it comes to investing in his next project, because whatever the truth is, the result is the same for me, stay away.

If you get mugged walking down the street, you are innocent. If you lose your money because you bought a deed to the brooklyn bridge from some guy in a bar, you are an idiot. People that lost money to GAW are much closer to the latter.

the difference between me and other people who have been robbed, and you and team xpy etc is that we have learned from our mistakes and tried to get better in the future.

i did not say that everyone who gets scammed is an idiot, I am saying that people that fell for THIS particular scam as hard as THESE particular people did AND spent another year on various projects to "fix" the coin that accomplished nothing are either idiots or in on the scam.

At a bare minimum, he was stupid enough to fall for the GAW/Garza scam. That leads me to question how he is smart enough to do many things, but running a crypto currency/company involved in crypto is near the top of the list of "last things I would trust Matalack to do."

Remember what the GAW scam entailed, people bought miners that very obviously didn't exist (hashlets), that did things that were very obviously impossible (boosts), then Garza ran out of coins/pocketed enough to end that version of the ponzi so they started mining completely fictional Hashpoints. Those were traded in for paycoins, which were "valued" at $4 per coin. That $4 came from "the miners that don't exist should have mined $4 dollars worth of BTC if they were paying out at the imaginary rate we made up from the fake altcoin mining pools, so instead of pretending to give you $4 worth of BTC I will give you 400 hashpoints that you can exchange for 1 xpy." Then to top that all off he promised to buy those xpy for $20 each.

That's actually what happened, so even if he was an innocent in the ordeal, he's dumb as a rock.

Now to other shit, did you know that Garza and Matalack were members of the same Texas megachurch before GAW miners started? Just an interesting tidbit to point out while figuring out whether or not his hands are clean.

Now, let's move on to after GAW "died." They split up into several different teams, all involving former employees and other people that have been scammed. I don't recall which one Matalack was part of, but either way, what did any of them accomplish? Again, none of this has made enough sense for me to even think of looking into the details, so I can't specifically tell you which team ripped people off explicitly, and which team just "failed," but the 2nd to last tweet from the paycoin foundation is about people buying xpybits (again, not sure what exactly they do,  since all the info is on a site that they shut down, but since that whole team has moved onto this project, I'm sure it didn't go well/as planned for the people that bought these xpybits.)

Also, the actual last tweet is warning of a phishing attempt (cool security.)

I am not going to waste my time reading though all the word salad that all these teams of people post every time their on a new project because it doesn't make sense at all, even on a basic level. The truth is somewhere in those details, but why find it? It's possible that they are 100% scumbags who were in on it from the beginning and continued to rob people for another year. It's possible that they are naive idiots who got robbed by Garza and then spent a year failing at trying to fix it. It's probably somewhere in the middle, but I have seen nothing to show that it's not somewhere in between there, or resembling anything near competence or a good investment.

It's like the spelling and grammar errors in the email from a Nigerian Prince. If you are smart enough to find them, you aren't dumb enough to lose your money. The people asking those questions aren't dumb enough to give their money to these clowns, so they will ignore them because there is nothing in it for them. The people that buy their "witch hunt" accusations are their marks, so they will play it up and reel them in.

I've never head of neucoin, i don't frequent this area because most of these coins seem useless to me, especially to "invest" in.

The reason there are so many posts here is because of the people involved.

We have the known idiot/scammers from GAW involved, so people following the GAW saga became aware, and then the people who have been saying that the GAW-people are idiots/scammers for years came over here to make sure any people who weren't aware of the GAW shenanigans were aware.

The reason the thread blew up is because one of the head cheerleaders of the GAW scam came along to dispute what were are saying and try to distract people with nonsense, and we are tired of his shit and won't let it stand.

It's one thing to lose money on some random altcoin pump and dump, but to do with known idiots/scammers like these is something special. Just want to make sure people are aware of who they are dealing with, and I refuse to let someone who i know only as a cheerleader for GAW to have the last word with horseshit that he was spewing here.

there is nothing to learn about dice games.

It is pure luck, with an edge towards the house.

Why would they be in jail for the future scam while ganza still walks free for the other one.

Being deeply involved in gaw makes yih one of two things, an idiot or a scammer. Not going to debate who is what, just going to tell everyone to be careful dealing with them.