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1001  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: March 29, 2016, 10:20:55 PM
Roulette may be the complex game I've ever played.
So mostly I'm focus 1 game for example : red/black or odd /even etc and try to martiangle it

It is literally the simplest game in the world. Pick a number. that's all it is.
But the point of the gamble is to bet on the one number that it land on with the least amount of times when placing that bet or you will eventually lose all your money choosing the same number all the time.
If you are confident in a color, place chips on each number that is on that color. You will get 35x your bet amount  Wink

Every strategy works the same way. You won't get 35x your bet that way, because when you win you will lose 17 chips, so you will only win 18 chips. The same exact thing as if you put 18 chips on the color square.
1002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: March 29, 2016, 10:18:40 PM
someone mentioning "Voisins du Zero" methods in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392235.msg14140959#msg14140959

and this is preview how we use this "Voisins du Zero" method



interesting , but not tried yet because this method required a large bankroll i think. play it for 5 or 10 rounds maybe will not work , also sometimes need to doubled bet. the guy succeed earn 3.8 btc.

No time now, but I bet this has the same expected value as every other strategy. Feel free to figure it out, I'll do it when I get home tonight if everyone is lazy. The only good strategy in roulette is to be the house.

OK, let's break this down.

You are risking 9 chips.

3/37 times it will land on 0,2, or 3. You will win 22 chips, but lose 7 chips you bet elsewhere. So 3/37 times you will win 15 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 4 or 7. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 12 or 15. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 18 or 21. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 19 or 22. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

4/37 times it will land on 25, 26, 28, or 29. You will win 16 chips, but lose 7 chips you bet elsewhere, so 4/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 32 or 35. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

That leaves 20/37 times that you will lose all of your bets and lose 9 chips.

EV=(3/37)(15)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(4/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(20/37)(-9)

EV=-.2432432432432432

So you expect to lose .2432 chips every spin.

If you put 9 chips on any 1 number:

1/37 times you will be right and win 315 chips

36/37 times you will be wrong and lose 9 chips.

EV= (1/37)(315)+(36/37)(-9)

EV= -0.2432432432432432

HOLY SHIT, exactly the same thing, like every other ridiculous strategy you will come up with (unless you make a  bet on 0,00,1,2,3 on an American table, then it will be worse.
1003  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: March 29, 2016, 09:51:15 PM
Roulette may be the complex game I've ever played.
So mostly I'm focus 1 game for example : red/black or odd /even etc and try to martiangle it

It is literally the simplest game in the world. Pick a number. that's all it is.
1004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: March 29, 2016, 04:27:31 PM
There are many types of Roulette strategy available, and each one has its differences from the others, or lucky numbers...

i know really easy strategy that sometimes works and sometimes not, but it is really easy, it's to bet on small amounts each time on color, not number because low chances to win, if you'll bet on color it will be 50/50 chance to win

while betting on color, chance isnot 50/50 because of ZERO. Zero is  messing  everything. also, if program  guess that you are playing with pyramid system in color, it will make you loose anyway. i have seen 16-17 times same color and then zero and again same colors
that another trick of roulette is follow the pattern sometimes work and give you big profit. when you lucky seen more than 10+ same color just follow the pattern

There are no patterns in roulette. Every spin is independent of the other ones.
the patterns what i mean is like
for expamle : red had out 7 times so when i see the pattern like that just put my money bet on red again and i'm not scared to lose because all player will put their money bet on black. sometimes without thinking just follow the pattern i can take win 8 times in a row.

I know your example, your example is stupid. Every one of those 8 spins red and black had the same exact odds of happening. Nothing changes on the wheel to make red or black more likely after 7  reds in a row.
1005  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: March 29, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
someone mentioning "Voisins du Zero" methods in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392235.msg14140959#msg14140959

and this is preview how we use this "Voisins du Zero" method



interesting , but not tried yet because this method required a large bankroll i think. play it for 5 or 10 rounds maybe will not work , also sometimes need to doubled bet. the guy succeed earn 3.8 btc.

No time now, but I bet this has the same expected value as every other strategy. Feel free to figure it out, I'll do it when I get home tonight if everyone is lazy. The only good strategy in roulette is to be the house.
1006  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 29, 2016, 02:37:14 AM
Maybe a little off-topic, but still interesting:  CCN, the worst magazine in the world of crypto currency, is still doing the same thing they did at the height of the paycoin scam: Publishing awful promotional articles for very obvious scamcoins.
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/dcoin-passes-milestones-become-leading-currency-releases-app-seeks-input/
Fuck you, CCN. Please die.
 

All these sites do is publish nonsense that people pay them to.

anyone not smart enough to figure that out is so dumb that they are going to lose their money anyway. Just stop going to these sites.
1007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: March 29, 2016, 02:26:05 AM
There are many types of Roulette strategy available, and each one has its differences from the others, or lucky numbers...

i know really easy strategy that sometimes works and sometimes not, but it is really easy, it's to bet on small amounts each time on color, not number because low chances to win, if you'll bet on color it will be 50/50 chance to win

while betting on color, chance isnot 50/50 because of ZERO. Zero is  messing  everything. also, if program  guess that you are playing with pyramid system in color, it will make you loose anyway. i have seen 16-17 times same color and then zero and again same colors
that another trick of roulette is follow the pattern sometimes work and give you big profit. when you lucky seen more than 10+ same color just follow the pattern

If you see the same color about 10 times in a row it means to bet on the opposite color. Pretty much the same as betting on dice the other way when you have a huge losing streak.

The odds of the 11th throw being red are the same as the odds of the 10th. this is stupid advice, stop saying it.
1008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: March 27, 2016, 06:11:55 PM
There are many types of Roulette strategy available, and each one has its differences from the others, or lucky numbers...

i know really easy strategy that sometimes works and sometimes not, but it is really easy, it's to bet on small amounts each time on color, not number because low chances to win, if you'll bet on color it will be 50/50 chance to win

while betting on color, chance isnot 50/50 because of ZERO. Zero is  messing  everything. also, if program  guess that you are playing with pyramid system in color, it will make you loose anyway. i have seen 16-17 times same color and then zero and again same colors
that another trick of roulette is follow the pattern sometimes work and give you big profit. when you lucky seen more than 10+ same color just follow the pattern

There are no patterns in roulette. Every spin is independent of the other ones.
1009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: March 27, 2016, 06:11:36 PM
There are many types of Roulette strategy available, and each one has its differences from the others, or lucky numbers...

i know really easy strategy that sometimes works and sometimes not, but it is really easy, it's to bet on small amounts each time on color, not number because low chances to win, if you'll bet on color it will be 50/50 chance to win

It is a smaller chance to win, but you win more money.

Picking a color in roulette has exactly the same expected value as picking a number in roulette.

Maybe one day you geniuses on this forum will learn that odds of winning is not the only thing to look at when making a bet.
1010  Economy / Securities / Re: Invest in Apple with Bitcoin! on: March 27, 2016, 12:22:03 AM
Not answering any of the questions on your other thread definitely makes me more likely to trust you on this one.
1011  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Message for igot.com Rick Day on: March 26, 2016, 04:27:10 PM
Your best bet is to go to the authorities.

https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4blvdq/igotcom_got_my_money_back_using_this_government/

This guy had some success, but it probably won't be easy. You have been robbed.
1012  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of or investing in 'Mining Sweden'? on: March 26, 2016, 03:45:26 AM
i found this review
 http://digiconomist.net/fraud-risk-assessment-mining-sweden

seem like legit site but i can't trust 100%
any official ANN ? or official bitcointalk service ?

They disappeared from here when we asked outrageous things like proof that they weren't full of shit.

Always a sign of a legitimate operation.

Edit: Why would you post a link to a fraud risk assessment that says that the rating is "really bad" and then say it seems legit?
1013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: March 25, 2016, 11:35:26 PM
my strategy in roullette is to sometimes to bet high or sometimes low based on the last rolls of the roullette like it came three times black you should bet high on red if no success double that for the next time but you have to be carefull on your first bet because you must leave for atleast *64 from you first bet

This is stupid. The wheel does not know that the last 3 throws were black, so there is no impact on the next throw.

If the last three are black, the odds of the next one being black are exactly the same as every other throw.
1014  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: March 24, 2016, 03:08:21 AM
Stealing identities seems like a bit much.

That would cross a line that might cause real police to want to get involved.


Pretty sure the tier system was just BS to delay withdrawals.
1015  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Leroy Fodor has gone Full-Delusional; StakeMiners is 100% confirmed insolvent! on: March 24, 2016, 03:02:51 AM
Not sure leroy actually talks to anyone, but has there been anything resembling a logical explanation (a stretch, I know) as to why you stop "earning interest" after you ask for a withdrawal?
1016  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale Soccer Betting System on: March 23, 2016, 11:52:01 PM
You still need a big bankroll for this betting system.

I think you are right, but to be honest it could work, since sports betting is much more skill related than gambling, so I think it's a really good approach to increase your chance to profit.
True, while playing dice I experienced up to 15 red streaks in red while playing martingale on 50% or 49.5%, i really doubt you'll see 15 losses in a row if you trail some good sport capper, probably 5 at most.

If you are a good capper you should just bet regularly.

Increase your bet when you are more confident in the bet, not because you lost the last one. That way if you lose 5 in a row you only lose 5 bets instead of 31.
1017  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Leroy Fodor has gone Full-Delusional; StakeMiners is 100% confirmed insolvent! on: March 23, 2016, 04:45:10 AM
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1747792825444698&id=1627849564105692

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Currently most of the altcoins we stake are in positive territory with a slight uptrend in progress. Clients can review the state of each altcoin on their account homepage.

Altcoins are generally positive with some solid volumes yet the markets remain volatile with no clear sign of an ability to call new floors for a majority of our coins yet.


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Currently most the whether we monitor are in not our territory with more regions to cover in progress. Viewers can review the state of the whether on their whether page.

Flooding is generally possible with some solid volumes of water yet the rivers remain volatile with no clear sign of the whether may or may not subside yet."

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the markets remain volatile with no clear sign of an ability to call new floors for a majority of our coins yet.

Who would have expected that?

You would think someone involved in crypto as long as he was would have expected that. Maybe there's a reason some people were trying to double check how much he knew before giving their coins away.
1018  Economy / Securities / Re: Bitcoin Treasury Bonds -- Yields up to 6.75% on: March 22, 2016, 02:33:41 PM
Who are you guys?

What does your experience entail?

How will you be earning more coins?
1019  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cryptsy Hack Resolution - 1st dispatch posted on: March 22, 2016, 02:16:19 PM
The lawyers aren't tech savvy they will just take your money. I'm not bureaucratic scum I know how to actually recover the coins.

Why are you still posting on here CrackHead/Eternal Insolent/Cryptcracker?  Seriously, why do you think anyone believes you?  We all know you are a troll.  Although it is slightly amusing to see what you will come up with next so we can have a good laugh. Grin Grin Grin

I give CryptCracker the benefit of the doubt.  If he can do what he says he can, great.  If not, its not like he is costing us to lose anything.

Except time.

And it appears that the geniuses that "lost" your money believe him, so any time they spend just sitting waiting for this time to get the coins back is time they aren't doing anything to get back the coins that they "lost."
1020  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam alert : Do NOT INVEST in Genesis Mining on: March 20, 2016, 07:57:47 PM
It's not really a scam, they're sharking. You are purchasing a legitimate contract, but without knowing it will not give you an ROI. They did not tell you you would get an ROI, but you think you will.
I spent $70 ish a year ago and have gotten $66 back and no more payouts.
Shady fucking company, go find a legit place that does cloud mining instead of this garbage.
That`s not a scam, just bad luck or poor judgment when to invest.  You lost $4,- but forget the fun of receiving each day coins to your wallet. No more Hardware setup problems and high energy bills.


no idea how you define fun, but throwing money out of the window on a daily basis is not considered funny for most humans I guess

You don't throw it away on a daily basis, you throw it away all at once and watch as the person you gave it to throws it back at you a few pennies (or less) at a time. If that isn't your idea of fun you should have found a better way to lose your coins.
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