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1861  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: December 19, 2016, 07:10:34 PM
Nothing is for sure, but I would say that the risk-reward ratio is acceptable, and much better than in many other investments. It is important to study the market in any way, to know the best time to invest.
If you are ready to agree that bitcoin is much better opportunity to invest then you also might come to know the best time to invest  with bitcoins i.e right now. And to have the better benefits from bitcoin we must be needing to hold our investments for some long periods like 5 to 10 years.
1862  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: December 19, 2016, 07:04:26 PM
Increasing your bitcoin is good and also very easy with some trading,sig campaigns and maybe some gambling but than just with low amounts.
Gambling is not a good choice if you are looking for a profit much better is trading sig campaign only works in jr,member accounts or much more.
How about newbie.. so better to try trading this is the only thing that i know can help you to grow your btc..
I do see people are discussing only about gambling or trading and ignoring many other fruitful methods like offering services or working affiliate programs. We do not need very big skills to offer services but we can have local exchanges or we can get people mobile verified. Because I'm doing these two and increasing my BTC regularly.
1863  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'd like to get some bitcoins. Is now a good time to do so? on: December 19, 2016, 06:58:24 PM
As for now, you better not buy it because until the end of December , the value will keep increasing by seeing it's trend on graph( Selling time )

IMO, January - Feb 2017 , it's a good time for purchase bitcoin

That's not a right decision to buy on the start of 2017, because  by year end price increase happens. So buying now really profits better by the falling days and months as the price is found to be in the increasing trend.
But I do see some people are waiting for new year to arrive so that they will be having comparatively low prices for bitcoin to buy some. But my inner thoughts are not supporting it as bitcoin will be surging up toward $1000 at any times and may not test back current price levels for ever.
1864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: December 19, 2016, 06:51:32 PM
No,I don't consider trading as gambling.Because trading depends on our skills,knowledge and experience.Trading can give us good amount of profit in short time.We can use our mind to predict the future price.But in gambling it just depends on our luck,no strategy or skills can be followed.Also in gambling our losing chances is high than trading.
There some points I do not agree with you. Actually, gambling does require strategy and skills like trading does. But they are not very useful for gamblers at all so most of them usually skip these part and jump into gamble without anything except their feelings. In general, It is not a good idea to pass these factor because they can help you to reduce the losing amount.
I do not think so because I have tried many strategies for my gambling still I was unable to reduce my losing amounts.

It is too true that gambling is beyond those skills and strategies and only luck is the needed thing. That is the reason I'm not considering gambling as trading as I'm able to make some profits in my trading.
1865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: December 19, 2016, 06:42:31 PM
If i win lots of bitcoin and i earn profit, i would stop betting and withdraw my bitcoin. Maybe i just hold my bitcoin or spend it on video games on steam at steam sales.
Only if you win ?
I just want to know how many times you stopped right after you own some profits from gambling and try to withdraw your bitcoins. Because in my experience I never stop my gambling just after made profits. It is my usual habit stopping gambling only when I do not have enough money to gamble more.
1866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 50 Dollars a Day! on: December 19, 2016, 06:34:05 PM
usually you earn "profit" on your money that you invest, not out of thin air. and usually this amount of profit is less than 30% of your investment. in that case you need to invest at least $200 every day and take risk with that amount, and some strategies need you to be safer and earn smaller profit which means you need around $1000 to invest and earn 5% profit.

now the question is are you willing to invest these amounts?
But I do see people are investing very big money into gambling like 2 btc or even 5 btc too.
As long as they are having some faith with their gambling skills, there would be nothing wrong in investing big money. Even they are gaining back 1% profits of their bankroll but consistently or at least more than what they are losing is more important.
1867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 19, 2016, 06:18:43 PM
So just gamble and have faith.

Faith and gamble dont really come alongside each other so you should probably leave that out and besides that instead of just having "faith" you might just want to close your eyes and hope everything goes as what you have wished anyway it wont be as what you have wished because most will ended up losing
In other words you can conclude like when your faith/wishes are coming true/ getting filled up then you can call yourslef as lucky on that day. So having faith will not harm because it may work for some days and may not most of the days.

But almost every gambler want to make that wishes work each and every day that is the reason they are trying for a safe method to gamble.

It is normal to think that you are going to win it, although most people say that they gamble for fun however the real fun is when you actually win something. If you keep on losing then sooner or later it wont be as fun as winning something so probably most people are just having "faith" with their luck
But practically I do see both winning and losing gamblers are not leaving off their faith with gambling. They just keep trying with gambling for their own reasons (either to double the win or to recover the loss). This faith forces them to invent a safe methods which is also only existing on their faith.
1868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 19, 2016, 06:14:03 PM
They are both gambling. But i would choose real than online gambling because in real you can face to face the real person behind the gambling so you can see the gambling is fair
Dealing with person face to face doesn't guarantee that the game is fair, most of the real casino rig their machines to make players loss on end. House always wins in real gambling/casinos.

On the other hand, most of the online casino these days provide a way to verify every results so they can't change results after you bet. That's why i prefer online casino rather than real one. This also protects your identity as well as you can play whenever you like from the comfort of your home.
I do not find any differences between online gambling and real gambling in this regard. I believe both of them having their own benefiting codes just to trap the gamblers.

The provably fair system is only provable after it was used. How much sure there are not two different pools to have these hashes.
1869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 19, 2016, 06:02:25 PM
you're probably not going to stop gambling until the money that you have been exhausted.
But even after losing all the money in gambling people are keeping trying with gambling with some loaned money or by selling their properties just due to gambling addictions. They are not ready to accept to stop gambling and they want to try it again and again just to have their free money.

Until people imagine gambling is a source of free money, the gambling addiction will be existing.
1870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there a trick dice? on: December 19, 2016, 05:10:31 PM
I have a lot of tricks bitsler. and just last night I get a new trick? here and give it a try has been getting a lot of doge. Do you believe the trick? and until when these tricks can be used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1bMVOKFTPM
If I would have invented/discovered a trick to make lots of money then definitely I would not have create such a threat to announce about my new methods. But definitely I will be busy in making my fortune by using those methods.

Maybe your trick will work for some time and it is not a right term to call it a trick but most suits if you call it as "you are lucky for time being".
1871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 19, 2016, 04:47:37 PM
So just gamble and have faith.

Faith and gamble dont really come alongside each other so you should probably leave that out and besides that instead of just having "faith" you might just want to close your eyes and hope everything goes as what you have wished anyway it wont be as what you have wished because most will ended up losing
In other words you can conclude like when your faith/wishes are coming true/ getting filled up then you can call yourslef as lucky on that day. So having faith will not harm because it may work for some days and may not most of the days.

But almost every gambler want to make that wishes work each and every day that is the reason they are trying for a safe method to gamble.
1872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 19, 2016, 04:42:23 PM
Gambling help me to know where the limit is and how to control myself when I do something. If I ever get out of control, I know that I will be punished or be destroyed. And thanks to gambling, I can now understand the meaning of money
It is really unfortunate that you are learning life's basic skills from gambling. I mean to say you are learning things by paying some fees for that whereas we have lot of other opportunities to learn them for free of cost.

Still it is good you are making use of gambling at least for some benefits other than just using it for entertainment or trying with it to make your life's fortune.
1873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin transactions - Slow OR Fast on: December 11, 2016, 09:15:56 PM
bitcoin transaction speed today is very different from the first. Well, this time the speed is somewhat reduced. perhaps it is because more and more users bitcoin.

Bitcoin transactions come through instantly. Not sure why people still mix up transaction speed with the time a transaction needs to get confirmed. The number of users has gone up while the blocks are still capped at 1MB. Pools have to make a decision based on the financial gain. Transactions with the highest fees get included in found blocks, everything else will need to wait for other pools to get picked up.
That's the beauty of the system because if someone needs urgent confirmation or say quick confirmation they can pay a little higher fees than usual and enjoy the luxury of getting confirmed within next block while someone who does not have such urgency can pay the normal fees and get confirmed normally. And guys which other payment method allows you to do so ? (I mean pay less when less need and pay more when need of confirmation is urgent)
1874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs Betting on: December 11, 2016, 09:03:17 PM
Gambling vs Betting? It is confusing you know, betting is also gambling because in gambling you bet for you to win or lose. I just don't get what you are trying to point out in this post of yours. I think you mean, Gambling vs Betting on sports like prediction stuffs like that, is that it? but still it is also gambling as long as money is involve in return to earn money.
Actually I believe this is the topic for discussing about sports betting versus rest of gambling. Because I do see many people are not agreeing that sports betting is a type of gambling and they are almost treating the sports betting equivalent to trading. So, we just need a discussion to conclude the differences.
Yes actually I also think that games based gambling like sports, skill based based games and multiplayer games are known as gambling.

While pure luck based quick games where you neither can apply skill nor experience is known as betting. For me I love gambling but betting is my option when there is not many sports streaming on television.
1875  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETTING SITES TO AVOID on: December 11, 2016, 08:39:34 PM
I am surprised that no one here mentioned https://www.999dice.com/ already. Apparently their provably fair system is rigged somehow.
But I am not an expert on PF systems so I can't tell what is wrong exactly, maybe someone care to explain it to me?
That site is well known for scams and they have fake bets too ( to look like a reputed site with tons of wager ) while I have won there but the nature of site is very sketchy and I would never recommend to anyone.
I think Op has lostsome serious amounts in sites like rollin and hence he is making some baseless accusations, but anyways the only sites I trust for dice games are bitsler, PD, bitdice and crypto-games (a bit).
1876  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities on: December 10, 2016, 07:46:26 PM
It depends on the definition of "Illegal activities". In some countries purchasing or selling services with bitcoin is not regulated with the banks of their governments. And taxation on those transactions may be very difficult to put. But when merchants convert those bitcoins to their own currency they will be paying some taxes. But as BTC is volatile, not much interest is shown by the merchants in using it as a payment gateway. Undecided
Buying goods/products with bitcoins from certain licensed websites is always safe and considered legal as the websites have an authority to use the currency.

Only those trades that are obviously considered illegal everywhere like drugs, weapons and fraudulently acquired products are illegal and it becomes a matter of concern if you are dealing with a person who is buying bitcoins for such purposes. You may be unaware but still you are involved in the illegal activity. That's the major concern here.
1877  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Now Accepting Ether ! on: December 10, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
I made two bets on their dice game of 0.05 each just to see, both which of won. They paid out one and investigating the other one for fraud. Its coming up to two days now

Sometimes i bet on their dice more than .05btc and never had any problem so i assume they caught you doing something illegal on their terms thats why it happened.
Yeah either the guy was trying to scam them with 0 fees transactions or he was doing something, I have been paid more than 0.7 btc in a single bet at times so they are trusted for sure. Plus if he was honest he must have added his bet slips along with his post.
Scammers try a lot now a days that's for sure hehe
1878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 10, 2016, 04:44:17 PM
What is gambling? Gambling is certainly a game but it involves money thats why one should handle/use it responsibly . Investment?  Uhm, Yeah if you have a decent amount of money you can invest to a gambling site and you will be called a investor but for someone who just plays gambling it will not be a investment cause you're just a player not an investor .
I think you are right that since gambling involves money and winning and loosing are a part of gambling therefore one should be very careful before betting any amount. Each and every bet made should be for fun and never bet what you cannot afford to loose.
And remember, gambling addicts a lot since it involves money.
1879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In what gambling games are you good at? on: December 10, 2016, 08:13:56 AM
Well we are the same im not also good in dice games because im always loosing and  i dont have really a strategy to win it just sort of fun and gaining some experience of what dice games is. But so far as i know dice games is it is all about of luck, small strategies annd controlling your emotions. And i think it is all about on that. By the way im really into sports betting and sometimes dice games.
But I do feel the gambling you are good does not need to be profitable for you. Because I do see people are just for engaging themselves by going for gambling.

They are very much interested in setting up different strategies and innovating new ideas to gamble. They are not making profit with their new strategies but they are delaying their losses. And they are calling themselves good at those.
1880  Economy / Exchanges / Re: List of bitcoin debit cards on: December 06, 2016, 03:54:39 PM
Actually, Uquid has a 0.5% fee when moving money from account balance to cards. You'd be able to see that with a free account.  Bitpay rates have in my experience always been slightly better than thw ones Coinsbank had.

What is the EUR quote you're getting right now? I'm seeing 715.36 on Coinsbank.

Well, remarkably, that's a better rate that BitPay at the moment. I wasn't looking at EUR rates admittedly. You should check if this is a sell/buy rate though.
I guess it is about which part of the World the company is located. A company located in usa will have better dollar deals and prices and a company located in a good strong european company will have a better Euro deal. So it is not about which company has a better deal unless one has better in every single currency. At least thats my assumption , can’t speak on behalf of everyone.
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