Я для монеро как раз тот палец и оставил

Не станем показывать пальцем, кому он адресован. Итого, мы имеем четыре (или пять, включая некий собирательный образ анонимной крипты) направления, которые уже достойно реализованы соответствующей криптой. Как я и говорил, хватило пальцев одной руки

Технически, мы можем еще добавить скам в качестве дополнительного, виртуального измерения (условно назовем его нуль-измерением), куда и запишем весь шиткоин, ныне присутствующий на рынке

I would still distinguish between the two types of players

There're the ones who are exclusively profit-oriented and don't enjoy the game at all as such, even though gambling doesn't look like the right choice for this purpose unless you actually know how to beat the house. And there're those who are not so much for the money of it as for the thrill of feeling victorious and conquering the odds even if that means losing money in the process

It is not uncommon to hear that many are playing for the personal enjoyment, but it is worth discussing what precisely that enjoyment is comprised of or consists in. I'd say it is that feeling of having your fate in your own hands after you hit the winning streak (despite the fact you know it is a false feeling anyway), and money doesn't play a very significant role in this unless you get addicted and fail to stop in time

I'm not sure if arrogance as such has anything to do with either losses or wins

What has, though, is how risky you are. Yeah, I understand that you imply arrogant as synonymous with risky. But, first, you can be risky and reckless as hell without being arrogant (read, as shy as a mouse outside gambling) and, second, you can be arrogant and uppity as fuck but still smart enough to know your real odds. And then, after all, it is the risky ones who win big time, not those who avoid taking risky steps and bets

Таких можно по пальцам одной руки пересчитать

Причем за все время существования крипты. Первым номером у нас, очевидно, будет сам биток, как своеобразное средство сбережения подальше от банков в частности и финансовой системы в целом - для обезбанченных, скажем так. Вторым можно смело записать эфир, у которого есть смарт-контракты - идея вполне достойная и правильная, хотя в настоящее время уже не особо востребованная

Потом можно вспомнить про лайт - удобно для спекуляций и перекидывания средств туда-сюда, ибо универсально, дешево и сердито. Ну и замыкают нашу четверку первачей конечно же доги, отлично нашедшие себя в азартных играх и онлайн-казино. У нас как бы остался еще один палец, но не буду говорить какой именно, поскольку и так должно быть понятно, кому и зачем его показывают

Мусульманский мир недалеко ушел от христианского

Напомню, что уже даже не в Средние века одни христиане (католики) резали других христиан (протестантов), ну а те - тех, не забывая при этом ненавидеть православных (которые, по всем канонам, самые правильные христиане). Да что там далеко ходить и много говорить - какие-то 40 лет назад в Северной Ирландии шла полноценная гражданская война, и воевали в ней те самые католики с теми самыми протестантами

Ну так и у мусульман сейчас примерно то же самое, что у христиан было 500 лет назад (такое условное Средневековье), где одни мусульмане режут других. Саудиты, например, числятся среди лучших друзей Америки, а там живут самые отмороженные муслимы во всем мусульманстве. Только в Саудовской Аравии сунниты, а в Иране - шииты, хотя и у тех и у других один бог - доллар (зачеркнуто) аллах

That largely depends on your general attitude toward gambling

If you are enjoying this activity in a genuine way, you will just consider the money you lost as necessary and required expenses, a payment of sorts. And then your thought would sound like "Man, if I didn't eat and didn't have to buy food, I'd have accumulated so much money by now that I could buy a mountain of better things with it"

On the other hand, if you are in fact looking for profits, and keep on losing year after year, that makes a perfect case for a witty remark by Albert Einstein, who once said that "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" (or insanity is crediting that witticism to him over and over again as he never said it)

Most commodities are useless as a store of value

That's simply because they quickly lose their market value following the loss of consumer properties over time. Why d'ya think gold has become such a damn good store of value? Because it doesn't lose its shine and appeal over centuries, and it is virtually indestructible at that. Your car loses half of its remaining value with each year of driving, and it is the same with other goods. Yes, there are vintage cars which only get more expensive with age (among a few other things like antiques) but these are rare and far in between, confirming the rule rather than breaking it

Are you really into gold?

Cause if you were, you would certainly know that gold is not a very profitable investment overall, and has been that way for quite some time by now. And it is definitely not like it "keeps rising every year" as it was stagnant for over 5 years since 2013 and till 2019, while its dollar price is still a far cry from what it had been in summer 2011. It may be rising in terms of some regional currency indeed (say, the Venezuelan bolivar), but that only shows depreciation of that currency, not gold itself becoming more valuable over time

I tend to think it does in fact affect the fundamentals

And not because it adds to volatility (though it is about that too) but for the image that such use produces. Indeed, it doesn't change the technology behind Bitcoin, but technology without adoption is pretty useless on its own. When people lose their money via Bitcoin as was the case with PlusToken, their overall attitude toward cryptocurrencies changes and not for the best, to say the least

And yes, I know that the dollar (for example) is used for nefarious purposes as well and probably much more in general. But this use is still minuscule compared to its other uses, good ones, so it doesn't affect its image so much

У меня вообще такое ощущение, что это все какая-то дикая постановка

Типа мы тут постреляем, а вы там в сторонке постоите. Потом оказывается, что эти еще не отошли, а те еще и не стреляли. Ну, примерно, как в Сирии американцы выпустили сотню крылатых ракет, куда попали - никому неизвестно. Неизвестно даже были ли вообще какие-то ракеты. Теперь Иран сообщает, что накрыл американскую авиабазу, но те говорят, что никого не убили и даже ничего не поломали. В итоге окажется, что и генерал иранский задним числом где-нибудь живой и здоровый объявится

It is not just about the gambler himself

After all, everyone decides for himself what to do with their life. But with gambling and being addicted to it, it is more like heavy drug addiction as the junkie doesn't just make his own life miserable but also the lives of people around him (family, friends, colleagues if there are any)

And it can be in the same vein with gambling addiction, but gambling addiction is still somewhat better as it doesn't damage the body and the brain as much as a heavy use of drugs does, physically destroying the person and his character. It is fully reversible, and there is a way back in case of gambling even if it requires a lot of effort

That's the whole point

When Mt.Gox collapsed, Bitcoin was just a toy. Back in the day it was like a casino as no one could expect or even hope how things were going to turn out in some 5 years. I'm almost certain that losing their coins was not a big deal for the majority of people then as these coins didn't cost them much anyway, if anything at all. I lost 1.5 BTC while gambling in 2014 (or early 2015), and I couldn't care less. Losing that much would be a catastrophe for me now that one bitcoin is worth almost 10k (and probably will be worth much more in a couple of months)

It is easier said than done

You begin to separate the wheat from the chaff after you learn it the hard way, in most cases. It is difficult not to fall victim to this kind of propaganda as it is aimed at your emotional side (as any such stuff), i.e. something which you feel as true and thus heavily forced to consider true from deep within even if you are fully aware that it is not. Try reading this stuff, and you instantly get caught up in this kind of thing. As they say, it ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble as it's what you know for sure that just ain't so (read, what they put into your head)

Нет здесь никакой загадки

Ценность догов в том, что они стоят копейки, в буквальном смысле несколько копеек за монету. А с учетом того, что майнеры берут всего по одной монете за транзу, это делает их исключительно удобными для всяких азартных игр в онлайн-казино. С битками так, например, не поиграешь в дайс, где можно мутить всякие хитрые стратегии с догами, не боясь проиграть, условно говоря, миллионы. Это и обеспечивает стабильность их ценника и, соответственно, отсутствие серьезных спекулятивных игр на данной поляне

This is really getting old now

Should I question your own legitimacy as well since there were a bunch of other dudes posting the same nonsense over and over again every other page in this thread? For fuck's sake, come up with something new and refreshing already, something which doesn't look like an obvious attempt at slander and defamation


This has already been said, and probably not just once

It is not about good or bad at all

With resources like ZeroHedge it is always about sensationalism. As per Wikipedia (no plagiarism intended), "events and topics in news stories are selected and worded to excite the greatest number of readers and viewers". Since most people are prone to overreacting, the stories like the impending collapse of the dollar system (aliens invasion, nuclear holocaust, global warming, whatever currently fits that purpose) are always finding their audience even if the events described should have happened long ago according to their sources


There's no basis for anything other than purely scientific interest in brainwashing, mind control, coercive persuasion, or whatever it is called these days

Don't believe everything that you hear in the Internet

I've been reading about the imminent collapse of the dollar for at least 20 years on end. Somehow, the dollar is still alive and kicking. But there is a very simple approach you can use to gauge the strength of a currency. The strength of a currency is determined by the strength and might of the underlying economy. So while the American economy remains the most powerful and developed in the world (whether you like it or not), rest assured that the dollar is not going to kick the bucket any time soon


You don't need to go any further than ZeroHedge. That's the ultimate source of all such bullshit


And before anything else they should develop their own economy, and then there'll be no need for dedolarization in the first place. Basically, all these countries you mentioned are putting the cart before the horse and making their citizens suffer terribly due to mismanagement of their own economies

This is mostly superstitions

But if they subjectively make your life easier and better overall as you experience it, then definitely go for it. As long as bets are provably fair, and you can reliably check and test their fairness at all times, there is no particular reason to move your funds anywhere unless you need them for something else (or just don't trust the casino)

However, if you are winning handsomely and so rightfully expect issues on the way of withdrawing your winnings from the casino (like the casino requesting your verification), then it makes perfect sense to withdraw your money in small batches elsewhere so as not to trigger alarms and alerts which may be in place

It works both ways actually

Some people are just shy of other people, and thus avoid crowds, gatherings, meetings, etc. For them online gambling is a godsend. Indeed, there are other people too. In fact, there are many different people across the world, and all of them have different preferences, compulsions and inclinations. So it can as well be said that nothing beats playing at home in a cozy armchair in front of your computer screen when no one looks over your shoulder and whispers some irrelevant bullshit in your ear

I think we should thoroughly distinguish between how things look from within and without

The point is, it may seem to us, who have no experience in a certain field, that some folks are taking extreme amounts of risk in that field. But they may just know their thing so well that it doesn't feel even half as risky to them as it looks to us, the outsiders. And they are not gambling in the common sense of the word but rather carefully evaluating the risks and taking action only if the risk level is below a certain threshold, given their own skills and expertise


That actually confirms what I just wrote. It may look to outsiders like you are gambling, but since you know your field so well, it doesn't feel like gambling at all to you personally. Put simply, you are making appropriate decisions based on rational considerations, not luck or chance