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Honorcoin was disabled at Bittrex for an hour? Maybe the wallet update is coming out...? Other reasons?
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Developerupdate 02.08.2014 :
By Dagger
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PoSA tx when final public version is released, has some advanced features to allow those "extra paranoid users" Cheesy a way to raise and lower certain key parameters.
For example.
Bob wants to send 1000 Cloak to Alice but is concerned that despite the fact it cannot be traced directly from A to B it can still be "speculatively" followed with blockchain analysis because it is a large amount.
Bob can choose how many nodes he wishes to split his 1000 cloak, could be 10 could be 15, PoSA does a check to see if the balance is available in these nodes before the tx is permitted and can randomly split accordingly. He can also, if desired, select the amount of blocks he wishes to split the tx out. The higher the values he inputs the more spread out the tx becomes.
For everyday smaller amount this type of advance selecting would not be necessary.
However, for a VERY LARGE tx of say 100K Cloak. An ideal scenario would be to input even higher inputs to the parameters allowing it to take a longer time and being split over many more nodes and blocks.
HOLY SHIT!
Yes  from yesterday. Hope to see new news today. |
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Guys the IRC log is a fake. Wrong name , wrong channel . No fudding around appreciated.
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Honestly guys I think he is right. No one would be so stupid Everyone would use a private chat or not IRC. Good that the market is not reacting on that news. |
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Haha. Amazing Learning Session by Theoretical! All guys who were not in the IRC missed something cool |
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Developerupdate 02.08.2014 :By Dagger PoSA tx when final public version is released, has some advanced features to allow those "extra paranoid users" Cheesy a way to raise and lower certain key parameters.
For example.
Bob wants to send 1000 Cloak to Alice but is concerned that despite the fact it cannot be traced directly from A to B it can still be "speculatively" followed with blockchain analysis because it is a large amount.
Bob can choose how many nodes he wishes to split his 1000 cloak, could be 10 could be 15, PoSA does a check to see if the balance is available in these nodes before the tx is permitted and can randomly split accordingly. He can also, if desired, select the amount of blocks he wishes to split the tx out. The higher the values he inputs the more spread out the tx becomes.
For everyday smaller amount this type of advance selecting would not be necessary.
However, for a VERY LARGE tx of say 100K Cloak. An ideal scenario would be to input even higher inputs to the parameters allowing it to take a longer time and being split over many more nodes and blocks.
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Man I am doing Facebook advertising for quite a time now and I don't like LIKES. Because they say nothing, I like to bring Sales or Conversions.
But what you offer cannot be real likes. For Example in USA you have got a CPC from around 0,5$ so I assume a like will cost minimum 0,30$ . In Thailand you have a CPC from around 0,06$ so you can have a like for maybe 0,05 $. Maybe for Likes from India (real) you pay 0.03$ which were for 1K ...30$ not 6$.
I can prove this with a lot of screenshots and timestamps. So everyone who is looking to make a real community with likes or as I said drive Sales through Facebook is happy to contact me.
I hope my post will not be deleted.
Cheers
Christian
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Added technical charts for all investors: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=714803.msg8075534#msg8075534Big thanks to the user technical for providing! Please discuss all analysis here in this thread! Not in mine. If you think you can do it better / different / see it different feel free to provide me your charts and your view of the charts. Cheers, Chris |
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Aber ganz ehrlich, was soll das?
Ich will das Engagement der XC-Leute nicht schlecht reden, aber mit XC für verschlüsselte Telefonate bezahlen? Warum? Sowas gibt es schon zu hauf und sogar kostenfrei! Für mich ist das ganz ehrlich gesagt alles Schaumschlägerei, um nicht zwischen den Coins unter zu gehen. XC und CLOAK sind da besonders gut drin.
Ist bei CLOAK inzwischen raus, ob das PoSA wirklich über einen zentralen Webserver läuft? Das wäre so peinlich...
Eigene Meinung zu Cloak bilden https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=714803.msg8117810#msg8117810Aber das mit Jasin is wirklich fake das nehme ich auch nicht auf, wurde von mehreren Quellen bestaetigt. Wann denkt ihr ist nen guter Dark einstieg wieder? Jetzt? RC4 kommt innerhalb der naechsten 2 Wochen? Hab bei all dem gespamme da den ueberblick verloren. |
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Kristov Atlas has Cloak on his radar. Have seen him mention it on Twitter.
I believe he will have his say once PoSA has reached full implementation (thank God, unlike some other community dev that owes us a public apology).
Atlas' blessing would be a key driver to take us to the next (hyper) level.
I can just say it again what I said in the Cloak vs DRK Discussion. One guy is god? Sorry I need more than one guys opinion for that. But I asked him to join the Cloak Community and do the same thing what he is doing for Darkcoin for Cloakcoin. That would show me also that he is more indepandant then a friend of Evan's. Anyway mentioning is good free press for us and lets see how this topic is developing. Can't lose if you own both drk and cloak 100% agree. |
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Kristov Atlas has Cloak on his radar. Have seen him mention it on Twitter.
I believe he will have his say once PoSA has reached full implementation (thank God, unlike some other community dev that owes us a public apology).
Atlas' blessing would be a key driver to take us to the next (hyper) level.
I can just say it again what I said in the Cloak vs DRK Discussion. One guy is god? Sorry I need more than one guys opinion for that. But I asked him to join the Cloak Community and do the same thing what he is doing for Darkcoin for Cloakcoin. That would show me also that he is more indepandant then a friend of Evan's. Anyway mentioning is good free press for us and lets see how this topic is developing. |
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I really loose my faith in this board. (...regarding the 10 days bann...)
But I am really happy that this community is active. We are small but we all stand together !
ATM I am active in the Honorcoin, Cloakcoin and Silkcoin community and I have to say the Silkcoin and Honorcoin communities after the SCAM and Relaunch are small but that makes it more ... fun. When a coin becomes bigger its sooo much fudding around here... see Cloak.
WHat I would like would be more transparency from Jarvis regarding the developing process. It would be amazing to see some project management tools or even a checklist where we work on and what are the next steps. This is by the way what I would like to see from all coins..
Why?
It is so crazy how trading reacts on News in the Crypto World. And if there are 1 day no news price falls so crazy. But there are some days no news. Thats why I like to see more of the developing process than the real milestones. If you see the process and the work done everyday you will be satisfied everyday even if there is no big news. ATM I don't know hat Jarvis is doing the last 5 days.
We need to gain more trust all together. Jarvis is one key in this part, the community the other. If the trust is back and we have a good communication system, Investors wil be back too!
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His ban will expire in 10 more days. Hi BadBear, If you have a minute I just wanted to make sure I understand this forum rule a little better. I read most of the thread, but again wanted to make sure my understanding is correct. Asking us to put a link or promote a coin in our signature is ok as long as it doesn't ask us to post "insubstantial" posts as well correct? Or is it any type of giveaway period, unless the giveaway instructions are on another forum or site? From a user standpoint. We can add anything to our signature as long as we don't promote the giveaway specifically? For example if the giveaway is posted somewhere other than bitcointalk, but asks us to put the coin and our address in our signature this is ok correct? Last thing I see "bounties" all the time. So if the coins are given to do any type of work including, other than posting on bitcointalk, that is ok as well correct? I know I read it in several posts already, but I also feel a warning would be more fair, even with a short time frame to remove the violation before banning. I do understand and agree with the reasoning for the giveaway rules in general, just not instant banning without a chance to change the mistake, unless of course there is a history of the user ignoring the rule. Thank you for you time and Have a Good Day The most common mistake I see with signatures is stuff like "Add this to your signature then post here so I can verify", which is not allowed. You'd have to be more specific about what you mean wrt bounties, but that sounds okay. Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads.
Hello BadBear, thanks for the explanation. I feel this 10 days ban quite too hard. Rules are rules and I like when rules get executed, but common he was not aware of it and 99% of the users here don't know that rule. It's far away from reality and I think it would be amazing if you tell him what he did wrong, cancel the ban and tell him not to do again. I am sure he will apologize to you in person and he will lead the Honorcoin Community in a good way in the future. Dialog instead of punishment. Why I am talking from far from reality? Because I just experienced yesterday in the Cloakcoin Talk a Guy who used words like "Nazis' who gets reported by me and I am sure from other members to the moderator and who was still able to write for the next 24-48 hours. This are guys who destroy the Community Life in Bitcointalk , not a guy who takes over a Coin for the community after the 10000x Scam doing a mistake and ges banned for 10 days. I am happy to discuss. Cheers, Christian Just to clarify I don't want to say that what Jarvis did was right. I want to say he did a mistake, he will say sorry, and this thing is done. The whole community stands behind him as you can see at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=711805.100 But there you can see on the last pages again someone who spams our community thread and who gets nothing. But Jarvis gets 10 days? I am loosing a lot of faith in this board and I am not alone. Cheers! Please don't be to proud to say your points are right or wrong! As I said I am happy to discuss, but atm its no dialog its just follow the "strict / stupid" (My opinion) rules. |
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Developer Updates 01.08.2014:
x11joe: I'm working on encrypted messaging first. x11joe: That is the first step to secure communication for the market. x11joe: I'm working on that now actually Smiley. x11joe: It's actually not as hard as I thought to implement. x11joe: You guys know how encrypted messaging works right? x11joe: If not I can give quick explanation x11joe: first if you have not watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?x11joe: v=GSIDS_lvRv4 x11joe: this explains public/private keys very well x11joe: and is very key to understanding this system x11joe: When someone creates a listing they get a public/private key pair x11joe: You encrypt your messages using the listee's public key. x11joe: this means only he can decrypt it with his private key x11joe: you then send this out to all nodes on the network x11joe: as an example... x11joe: lets say we had 50 people x11joe: I'm handing all 50 people the message x11joe: they all try to decrypt with their private keys x11joe: but only the person I sent to can do it succesfully x11joe: then within that message, they can prove it's me because I encrypt a validation token using my private key, and give them my public key in the encrypted message x11joe: yes x11joe: to everyone else it looks like giberish x11joe: it's actually a simple concept once you get it x11joe: this does require constant scanning of the database of the messages. x11joe: but it's not that bad x11joe: so might be 30 second delay on getting messages x11joe: but worth it for security x11joe: Anyways just wanted to share that so you know what I'm doing first x11joe: so expect to see that in the next major update x11joe: its the first step before one market. #2 of the Day by TheDagger: Update: There's been quite a lot of pressure for us to release in greater details, information about our finished anon product. The whitepaper was deliberately made sparse to avoid attempts at copying from an early stage. Cloak PoSA is well advanced now so we can now reveal a more indepth paper that shows how our finished Proof of Stake Anonymity system works. PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.  A first look at CloakPal coming tomorrow. #3 Update by x11Joe: WTF so the only thing I can see is Alty sends the coin to POSA #1 node, the POSA#1 node sends the coin to Joe and then Joe finds a Posa #2 node...then the Posa #2 sends the coin BACK to Joe???
what the hell is the point of that and how is it anonymous?
We're going to make another diagram to explain this better with visuals. The key is things are being sent to temporary addresses. I'll come up with something better soon.
Think of it like this.
You -> PosA Node #1 -> Receiver (temp address) -> PoSA Node #2 -> Actual Receiver Address
PoSa Node #1 and #2 knows its safe to send to the Receiver temp address because of block escrow, a new transaction in the blockchain that is verified by all peers just like how normal transactions are.
It's ANON because PoSA Node #2 uses different 'cloak' then what he received to send money to you breaking the trace.
You could think of it like this.
Bob has $50, wants to send $50 to alice. All his dollars are tainted with the letter B. If you send the money to alice you can see the B's and you know it's from Bob.
If the money from PoSA Node#2 came from someone else (different traces) and was sent to the receiver it's Anon. Essentially Alice see's money with different letters on it, say C or something.
This is what is happening in the final steps, this does require that the PoSA Nodes actually have the money to send so balance checks would be in place. 
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Hello BadBear,
thanks for the explanation. I feel this 10 days ban quite too hard. Rules are rules and I like when rules get executed, but common he was not aware of it and 99% of the users here don't know that rule. It's far away from reality and I think it would be amazing if you tell him what he did wrong, cancel the ban and tell him not to do again. I am sure he will apologize to you in person and he will lead the Honorcoin Community in a good way in the future. Dialog instead of punishment.
Why I am talking from far from reality? Because I just experienced yesterday in the Cloakcoin Talk a Guy who used words like "Nazis' who gets reported by me and I am sure from other members to the moderator and who was still able to write for the next 24-48 hours. This are guys who destroy the Community Life in Bitcointalk , not a guy who takes over a Coin for the community after the 10000x Scam doing a mistake and ges banned for 10 days.
I am happy to discuss.
Cheers,
Christian Lets see what the answer will be. Unbelievable! This board has really bigger problems than a wrong Giveaway by a guy who takes over a coin after a SCAM FOR THE COMMUNITY. |
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His ban will expire in 10 more days. Hi BadBear, If you have a minute I just wanted to make sure I understand this forum rule a little better. I read most of the thread, but again wanted to make sure my understanding is correct. Asking us to put a link or promote a coin in our signature is ok as long as it doesn't ask us to post "insubstantial" posts as well correct? Or is it any type of giveaway period, unless the giveaway instructions are on another forum or site? From a user standpoint. We can add anything to our signature as long as we don't promote the giveaway specifically? For example if the giveaway is posted somewhere other than bitcointalk, but asks us to put the coin and our address in our signature this is ok correct? Last thing I see "bounties" all the time. So if the coins are given to do any type of work including, other than posting on bitcointalk, that is ok as well correct? I know I read it in several posts already, but I also feel a warning would be more fair, even with a short time frame to remove the violation before banning. I do understand and agree with the reasoning for the giveaway rules in general, just not instant banning without a chance to change the mistake, unless of course there is a history of the user ignoring the rule. Thank you for you time and Have a Good Day The most common mistake I see with signatures is stuff like "Add this to your signature then post here so I can verify", which is not allowed. You'd have to be more specific about what you mean wrt bounties, but that sounds okay. Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads.
Hello BadBear, thanks for the explanation. I feel this 10 days ban quite too hard. Rules are rules and I like when rules get executed, but common he was not aware of it and 99% of the users here don't know that rule. It's far away from reality and I think it would be amazing if you tell him what he did wrong, cancel the ban and tell him not to do again. I am sure he will apologize to you in person and he will lead the Honorcoin Community in a good way in the future. Dialog instead of punishment. Why I am talking from far from reality? Because I just experienced yesterday in the Cloakcoin Talk a Guy who used words like "Nazis' who gets reported by me and I am sure from other members to the moderator and who was still able to write for the next 24-48 hours. This are guys who destroy the Community Life in Bitcointalk , not a guy who takes over a Coin for the community after the 10000x Scam doing a mistake and ges banned for 10 days. I am happy to discuss. Cheers, Christian |
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Does anyone know if Kristov is planning on working with the CloakCoin Devs to do the same? I approached him via email right after I read the thing in this thread. He is exactly the person I am looking for as a neutral consultant to investigate the Cloakcoin specifications. But here I have to say it again, one person can not make a coin legit. I prefer to have at least 2-3 people investigating a coin to get a good view of the technical specifications and to suspend any fears of bias. I know it will not be easy but I hope I can get this off in the next months if Cloakcoin is still existing. (  ) Agreed, one person saying "its good" does not make it good. In a perfect world both Dark and Cloak should open all their code to the public and allow the community to decide, not select players in the crypto or security world. Yes and no. Yes I like the move but I think this would bring a lot of people who have no idea about the technical part to say, I am professional, I saw that POSA or Masternode System is not working. Market reacts, fear , fear sell .. big boom. Saw it at Vootcoin, not that Voot is an as strong community as Dark or Cloak. I more think about to have 3-5 people who show their expertise / trust and then investigate a coin. Just at the beginning .. in long-term open source is maybe the way to go in Crypto World to get coins really started off. |
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he removed giveaway. thanks 
