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Author Topic: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA  (Read 1266176 times)
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August 01, 2014, 02:29:43 AM
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Well, if that is the case, then you should have no problem understanding POSA and just because you have not been able to test it yourself yet it may still work...

I agree 100%

So have you made the same case against Dark?  Xcoin?

In regard to anonymous...

You may have missed my earlier post. I have 10% of my holdings in drk, 75% bitcoin. I am not convinced. I am waiting for the Atlas audit, then I will increase accordingly. I concede I will miss out on the initial movement, but I prefer that approach. I would rather gain nothing than lose everything, personal philosophy.

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August 01, 2014, 02:29:58 AM
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If there are any darkcoin holders in here, please stop fudding and trolling, there is no need for this, lets behave as adults, instead of aggitate cloakcoin holders..

Darkcoin and Cloakcoin aim for becoming anonymous, both in different ways, and whoever chooses what, doesnt matter, the reason people invest in diffferent coins comes from, whichever coin they feel has the best features / future..

I would like to extend an appology to cloakcoin holders / devs for the fud/trolling..


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August 01, 2014, 02:31:18 AM
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Why is there 2 versions of windows wallet? Which one should I use?
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August 01, 2014, 02:32:41 AM
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Why is there 2 versions of windows wallet? Which one should I use?

1.9.6.0 version.
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August 01, 2014, 02:35:55 AM
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smokim87, I have work to finish. I appreciate your civil tone and look forward to future progress, of which I'm sure we will both have an opinion.   Cheesy
Cheers.

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August 01, 2014, 02:40:08 AM
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smokim87, I have work to finish. I appreciate your civil tone and look forward to future progress, of which I'm sure we will both have an opinion.   Cheesy
Cheers.

Were all civilized people here (well not everyone) but everyone should be. Someday maybe.

Hope your next visit you find what your looking for  Smiley

Have a good one!
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August 01, 2014, 02:47:12 AM
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August 01, 2014, 02:54:36 AM
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Good morning guys,

for everyone who missed the last 10 pages and / or the last 3 days of Cloakcoin please read all important news and discussions here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=714803.msg8117810#msg8117810

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August 01, 2014, 02:55:00 AM
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PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.


The Byzantine Gernerals Problem relates to establishing a dependable protocol for communicating over an undependable channel.

1. The problem is specific to 2-way communication. There are absolutely no arrows returning to the sender in the flow chart


Read the arrow.  "Tells Joe to create a PoSA address and receive it from him."  So...he sent a message to Joe and Joe sent something back.  That sounds like 2-way communication.

Edit:  This also happens with PoSA node 1.  So your two-way communication appears to happen twice.

What? That has nothing to do with anon.

The problem of sending secret information over a clear channel was solved long ago. Google "Diffie-Hellman Key Exchange". You probably used it to log into your bitcointalk session today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffie%E2%80%93Hellman_key_exchange



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August 01, 2014, 03:00:53 AM
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What? That has nothing to do with anon.

The problem of sending secret information over a clear channel was solved long ago. Google "Diffie-Hellman Key Exchange". You probably used it to log into your bitcointalk session today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffie%E2%80%93Hellman_key_exchange

There is more than one way to solve the Byzantine generals problem. In the case of Bitcoin they used PoW. From what I'm seeing here it's the communication between nodes in the transaction path that this applies to.
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August 01, 2014, 03:04:26 AM
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Do people bother to read the news posted there is tons of info posted, seem people are skipping posts. Smiley Come on folks read a little

This is fudcointalk.. news became irrelevant here a long time ago.

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August 01, 2014, 03:04:41 AM
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Thanks for the free marketing fudsters
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August 01, 2014, 03:11:09 AM
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PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.


The Byzantine Gernerals Problem relates to establishing a dependable protocol for communicating over an undependable channel.

1. The problem is specific to 2-way communication. There are absolutely no arrows returning to the sender in the flow chart


Read the arrow.  "Tells Joe to create a PoSA address and receive it from him."  So...he sent a message to Joe and Joe sent something back.  That sounds like 2-way communication.

Edit:  This also happens with PoSA node 1.  So your two-way communication appears to happen twice.

What? That has nothing to do with anon.

The problem of sending secret information over a clear channel was solved long ago. Google "Diffie-Hellman Key Exchange". You probably used it to log into your bitcointalk session today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffie%E2%80%93Hellman_key_exchange




I believe that he answered to this statement of yours : "The problem is specific to 2-way communication. There are absolutely no arrows returning to the sender in the flow chart" .
In fact, there are arrows returning from Joe to Alty. Arrow going through the green box asking for _PoSA address and returning through a pink one with _PoSA address. You trying too hard to look at it as a flow chart when it is not really one, more like a diagram.

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August 01, 2014, 03:11:37 AM
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that looks nice  Wink

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August 01, 2014, 03:13:18 AM
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Now we will be able to send our coins around from our phones. Thank god. No more stiff back from sitting at the computer. Awesome!

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August 01, 2014, 03:18:02 AM
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Kristov Atlas has Cloak on his radar. Have seen him mention it on Twitter.

I believe he will have his say once PoSA has reached full implementation (thank God, unlike some other community dev that owes us a public apology).
 
Atlas' blessing would be a key driver to take us to the next (hyper) level.
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August 01, 2014, 03:29:02 AM
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Kristov Atlas has Cloak on his radar. Have seen him mention it on Twitter.

I believe he will have his say once PoSA has reached full implementation (thank God, unlike some other community dev that owes us a public apology).
 
Atlas' blessing would be a key driver to take us to the next (hyper) level.

I can just say it again what I said in the Cloak vs DRK Discussion. One guy is god? Sorry I need more than one guys opinion for that.

But I asked him to join the Cloak Community and do the same thing what he is doing for Darkcoin for Cloakcoin. That would show me also that he is more indepandant then a friend of Evan's.

Anyway mentioning is good free press for us and lets see how this topic is developing.
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August 01, 2014, 03:35:03 AM
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Kristov Atlas has Cloak on his radar. Have seen him mention it on Twitter.

I believe he will have his say once PoSA has reached full implementation (thank God, unlike some other community dev that owes us a public apology).
 
Atlas' blessing would be a key driver to take us to the next (hyper) level.

I can just say it again what I said in the Cloak vs DRK Discussion. One guy is god? Sorry I need more than one guys opinion for that.

But I asked him to join the Cloak Community and do the same thing what he is doing for Darkcoin for Cloakcoin. That would show me also that he is more indepandant then a friend of Evan's.

Anyway mentioning is good free press for us and lets see how this topic is developing.
Can't lose if you own both drk and cloak
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August 01, 2014, 03:47:52 AM
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Kristov Atlas has Cloak on his radar. Have seen him mention it on Twitter.

I believe he will have his say once PoSA has reached full implementation (thank God, unlike some other community dev that owes us a public apology).
 
Atlas' blessing would be a key driver to take us to the next (hyper) level.

I can just say it again what I said in the Cloak vs DRK Discussion. One guy is god? Sorry I need more than one guys opinion for that.

But I asked him to join the Cloak Community and do the same thing what he is doing for Darkcoin for Cloakcoin. That would show me also that he is more indepandant then a friend of Evan's.

Anyway mentioning is good free press for us and lets see how this topic is developing.

pff nah, if he's not on board then fuk 'm! lol Cloak doesn't need it. But it would further convince the more 'conservative' investors that this is no Micky-Mouse job. Plus his opinions are far-reaching as he is a public head that sits on a lot of interview panels and podcasts.
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August 01, 2014, 03:52:25 AM
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Kristov Atlas has Cloak on his radar. Have seen him mention it on Twitter.

I believe he will have his say once PoSA has reached full implementation (thank God, unlike some other community dev that owes us a public apology).
 
Atlas' blessing would be a key driver to take us to the next (hyper) level.

I can just say it again what I said in the Cloak vs DRK Discussion. One guy is god? Sorry I need more than one guys opinion for that.

But I asked him to join the Cloak Community and do the same thing what he is doing for Darkcoin for Cloakcoin. That would show me also that he is more indepandant then a friend of Evan's.

Anyway mentioning is good free press for us and lets see how this topic is developing.
Can't lose if you own both drk and cloak

100% agree.
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