Honestly, what should we, you, or gamblers actually debate about in their gambling cases, as is the title of this thread. the question is, what is the essence of the debate you have with your friend? What is certain is that it will only bring justifications for ourselves according to our habits and thought patterns.The point is, every gambler has different habits and also a different mindset.
In this case, the casino only offers the options they give us. there are only two choices, take it, or keep going.
For someone who thinks it is greed, let it be, someone has the right to what they think and even their habits. For those who are confident and have the habit of always waiting for the results until the match is decided, there is nothing wrong with that and it has nothing to do with greed.

But what is clear is that everything we bet on is always related to risk.
Firstly, we are well aware that betting requires money as a medium. Every bet always involves risks involved. Winning and losing are normal things. After all, aren't we well aware of the essence of betting? for anyone cashing in like you said in this post. There is nothing wrong with that, after all it is someone who makes the choice, and all decisions are in the hands of the gambler. However, if it turns out that the results of the match match predictions, someone must be sincere, because he has cashed in first. however, if it is the other way around, someone is lucky to avoid loss. In essence, every choice a person makes is completely theirs. As for the casino, they only offer features to their users.

For me personally, as soon as I make betting options. I won't check it again, let the game run until it's over. If I win, I'm lucky, if I lose, what can I do, it's all part of the risk anyway. the only greed in this case, a gamble that is not ours, we claim it to cash out. then, we ask for a share so that we can get money from the bet. By the way, greed has a broad meaning, depending on how we understand it and respond to it. Regarding risk, this is an inseparable part of gambling. Well, that's my understanding. If you don't agree with what I said, it all depends on our own understanding.

Gavi, this 19 year old young player has gone a long way in his football career at his age. Not only does he play at club level, he also plays for the Spanish national team. He has played in various competitions, both club and international events with the Spanish national team. IMO, this young player is too forced to always play in various events. In fact, he is a young talent who has talent and can develop much better. Regarding the rumors circulating, I actually don't follow developments. So naturally there was doubt in my mind, if this rumor was just gossip.
I don't think Barcelona will let go of their young player, especially if he is part of Bacelona's future progress. So, I don't know if this news is true or not. because, I really don't follow every development. If only it were true, we would even know how much this young player's release clause would cost.

The question is, will Barcelona really let him go with a cheap transfer, I don't think so.
As for Chelsea, let's flashback, previously Nagelsmann was predicted to become Chelsea coach to replace Potter. Apart from that, Luis Enrique is also a strong candidate. but in fact, these two coaches resigned, aka refused to coach Chelsea. which means, there is no agreement between Todd and the two coaches. After that, Pochettino became the only coach promoted by Todd Boehly. with the scenario, he is the only one who is willing to follow what the big Chelsea boss wants. As a result, as we see now with Chelsea's performance. although in fact I often say that Chelsea has several talented young players. However, it seems that Poche did not learn from his experience. he always plays players who cannot be relied on. especially the center forward who is unable to fulfill the criteria of being a goal scoring machine. However, that doesn't mean Chelsea has no hope, perhaps with the recovery of injured players, Poche has more options and can be creative with the system he wants.

The two teams you mentioned in the first point are teams that have a long rivalry in this competition. apart from that, these teams have a long history, especially Al Hilal in the last decade. It would be very natural for Al Nassr and Al Hilal to hunt for top European players who really have big names even though they are aged 30+. But so far, Al Nassr is the most generous team in terms of bringing in top European star players. they have Ronaldo and Mane, supported by other players who can still be relied on to compete in this competition. for example, Talisca, Brozovic, Fotana, Otavio. plus, defensive line players Aymiric Laporte and Alex Telles. In other words, this team can be said to be a star-studded team in the Saudi Pro League. It would be very natural, as top European players would be interested in joining Al Nassr.

Unlike Al Hilal, they don't have many big name stars. The only star they have is Neymar, even though he is suffering from injuries. The rest are only players who have played in European competitions with mostly mediocre teams. Even though there is Bono the goalkeeper, Koulibaly, their names are not as big as Neymar, Ronaldo and even Mane.
Nevertheless, this team is solid and strong, with the right selection of players. plus, the coach seems competent so far.

As for Karim Benzema, this team needs new ammunition that is much more competent. for the midfield, Al Ittihad has brought in the right players. But to help Benzema, Al Ittihad inevitably has to have a winger who is ready to use and worthy of being Benzema's partner. One more thing, it would be appropriate if Nuno Santo should be replaced with a coach who has a proven track record, especially one who uses an offensive system. Thus, Benzema can be creative with the remaining skills, talents and abilities that he still has, even with his experience. also, Benzema is an established player.

The point is, Liverpool just haven't really found an opponent who is equal to them. especially if we refer to the group E phase. theoretically, there is no opponent who is truly equal to them. however, after the Champions League preliminary round ended. teams entering the playoff phase could become a stumbling block for Liverpool if they met. It could be, if Man United is eliminated and ends up in this competition. At the same time, there are several United players who have recovered from their injuries. So, it's possible that The Red Devil will return to his best performance. btw, this is just an example if United were eliminated in the Champions League and ended up in the European League.

Likewise with Sevilla, even Newcastle, Dortmund, Milan, have the potential to end up in the Europa League. Some of the teams I mentioned could be teams capable of overthrowing Liverpool before heading to a further stage. Leverkusen is no exception, they also have the potential to experience defeat. After all, in football winning and losing is a common thing even though theoretically and statistically, Liverpool and Leverkusen are in their best performance. Of all the teams competing in the group phase of this competition, only two candidates will be strong competitors in the race for the trophy of this competition. So after all, nothing is certain as long as Liverpool is not sure of qualifying for the next phase, including my favorite team, namely Leverkusen. Well, if these two teams meet, it looks like it will be an exciting and very interesting match.

To be honest, I didn't watch this fight. but it's predictable, isn't it, that City is superior to the bookies and City shows it by winning. There are several points that are the reason for me to always observe what Pep does for his squad in match after match, even though I don't always have to watch it.
However, I can see it based on match data and statistics. and as I expected, Pep Guardiola did something with his squad again. I'm not sure what Pep Guardiola actually wants to do with his system and tactics. Due to this match, Akanji was banned from playing because of a red card, Pep put Bernardo Silva in Akanji's position. even though usually this position is always occupied by Mateo Kovacic, but again Pep rotated trying to play Bernardo, even though the player played very well. Apart from that, Pep played Jack Grealish, even though this winger is now more likely to be played in the Champions League. points, in every match City plays. Pep never uses the same line-up, unlike in previous seasons. but in fact, they still look good and impressive. I'm curious, what formula and pattern will be Pep Guardiola's mainstay, especially after the first half of the season ends.

As for United, this time I don't understand what Ten Hag is doing. I only refer to statistics, and the line-up he plays. It seems that Ten Hag is really experiencing a setback, so he is having difficulty showing United like last season. In this match, he actually has players who are worthy of being the starting eleven in this match. but he didn't, or perhaps didn't have a better option. As a result, City calmed down the match. However, their position is now in 3rd place in the standings, having the same points as Arsenal, 2 points behind Spurs. Interesting isn't it, at least the Premier League is more competitive in the top four of the standings.

Frankfurt vs Dortmund.

This match is actually in accordance with the scenario that I previously predicted, through a series of research and analysis, Dortmund this time will not win the match. as I said, in the previous post. The reason is, so far the striker that Terzic was hoping for has not been able to answer the team's needs as a goal scoring machine. be it Haller, or Fullkrug. As the match progressed, in the first half Frankfurt won a penalty and Omar Marmoush did not waste the opportunity. Not long after waiting, Omar Marmoush again doubled his lead for his team. At that point, I am confident, Frankfurt will finish this match with a win. However, before halftime in the extra time Sbitzer was able to reduce their defeat to 2-1.

In the second half, Terzic tried to change his system by pulling out Donyell Malen and being replaced by Youssoufa Muakoko. It didn't take long for Terzic's tactics to pay off, Youssoufa Muakoko equalized the score at 2-2 in the 54th minute and the match looked even more exciting. Before the 68th minute, Frankfurt broke into Dortmund's goal again. With a score of 3-2, I think this match will no longer produce goals from both teams. It turns out my guess was wrong, Julian Brandt was able to equalize the score at 3-3 until the match was over. As a result, instead of winning this bet, the match ended in a draw.
whereas previously I had the option that if there was a draw, I would choose the handicap option +05 @1.71. However, because 1x2 is more tempting, I changed my betting choice to @3.30.
Actually, personally, this match presented tension for me, my adrenaline went up and down and it was quite fun for me. However, I didn't get anything. but for both teams, they share the same 1 point.

I think you misunderstood, it is true that Barcelona now has several young Lama Sia players who are quite competent. Some of them predicted that their careers would become one of the great players. Like Lamine Yamal, this youngest player at the age of 16 has proven his talent and potential. The difference is that even though they are currently joining the main squad, their role will not be as important as that of the more stable and established players. It is hoped that these young talents will become the next Barcelona in the next few years. so, they are a projection of Barcelona's future.

Well, you know, Xavi will still rely on his main players. both in the Champions League and La Liga. Barcelona's performance in local competitions has declined due to the absence of several key players, so Xavi has no choice but to rely on several of their young players to fill the void left by several injured players. So far, Barcelona has progressed quite well.
Even though they lost in the El Clasico match, this was due to the fact that Barca did not play with a full squad. especially De Jong, who is the key in the midfield. Up to this point, I'm sure you understand quite well.
btw, next January, Deco will bring in Victor Roque. So, Barcelona's young players will increase. However, this Brazilian player seems to be more likely to replace Lewandowski. You can be sure that Barca will be ready after January.

For the Champions League, in the three matches they played, they won smoothly. Xavi just needs to keep his team consistent, so that they qualify as winners of Group H. Well, Barcelona still has a long way to go in this competition, especially in La Liga.

That's true, however, Barcelona still has a chance to reduce the points gap and it doesn't even rule out the possibility of widening the points gap from Real Madrid with the remaining 27 matches. Likewise for Real Madrid, they have a bigger chance after being 4 points ahead of their rivals. however, as we mutually agreed. these two teams still have a lot of matches to play, in future matches, ups and downs in performance may occur. It is possible for the two teams to compete with each other to increase the points gap between the two teams.

Talking about the El Clasico match, at first Barcelona looked good and they even took the lead. In fact, Xavi has implemented the right formation with the main players who were injured. unfortunately, IMO, he rotated some of his players wrong. plus, player substitution options that change Barcelona's patterns and systems. In the end, El Real was able to equalize. then, fortunately they were able to score a goal in the minute of extra time. what a bird's eye factor, regardless of the performance of these two teams. So, therefore, this competition still has matches to be presented. As for who wins the title, it seems too soon to me. Let's just follow every development, as well as the matches presented in La Liga.

As I said in yesterday's post, this match will be a tough match for Manano. Considering from my point of view, Monaco is a team that has not yet reached a consistent stage. In the first half, Manaco was slightly better in possession. However, regarding opportunities, Lille was much better because they were able to maximize them into goals. although in reality technically it is not much different. What is certain is that Lille was able to take the lead in the 32nd and 42nd minutes. Continuing the second half, Manaco increased the aggressiveness of his attacks and controlled 65% of the ball. 4 shots on target, out of 10 attempts, only 1 big chance. Unfortunately, Monaco was unable to score a single goal in this match. This match matches my predictions, this week there will be changes in the standings of the top four Ligue 1 standings.

In the previous match, it was between Brestois and PSG.
To be honest, I didn't watch this game. However, it seems that Brest as the home team put up quite an interesting resistance. Referring to match statistics, the home team took a total of 20 shots although only 5 shots were on target, 2 big opportunities. Even though technically PSG was much better, Brest put up interesting resistance and were able to score 2 goals. However, fortunately PSG was able to win this match even though they scored the decisive goal at the end of the match in the 89th minute.  With this victory, PSG finally shifted Monaco's ranking, which fell against Lille  while Lille is currently ranked 4th. at the top of the standings is Nice, which is only 1 point ahead of PSG.

I often say it in several posts in this thread, the truth is that Chelsea has a pretty good squad. some of the young players they have have the potential to develop further, but not all players. Talking about the match against Brentford, previously I referred to several line-up predictions. Most likely, Poche will rotate some of his players. There are several scenarios and one of them is playing Nicolas Jackson as the main starter.
Honestly, I hope Poche doesn't do it. and as usual, Chelsea implemented a 4-2-3-1 pattern, unfortunately Nicolas Jackson was included in the staring eleven as a central striker. Since looking at the line-up of the players who will play, my feeling is that Chelsea will lose this match. and yep, my guess was right.

I don't want to say, that Nicolas Jackson is not a talented player. but let's see, from his 9 matches he was only able to score 2 goals. It's clear, isn't it, that Poche needs an established, pure striker, who he can rely on to score goals for his team's squad. even though, the coach could have rotated some of his players. for example, like in the match against Arsenal.
In the match against Brentford, I bet on Over 2.5 goals with odds @1.7+. At least, this match will produce 3 goals, whether Chelsea wins or Brentford. Unfortunately, Chelsea was unable to score a single goal. Well, the next matches will be even tougher for Chelsea with a team of tough opponents. To get around this, Pochettino had to implement another strategy. Plus, if the player doesn't show a good performance, Poche must have the courage to let the player sit on the bench like the center forward they have. Maybe that way, Chelsea has a chance to perform even better.

In fact, Dortmund will always be favorites when they meet any team in this competition. unless the opponent is Bayern Munich. In this match, Dortmund remains the leading team in the betting options. Dortmund's odds are @2.12, quite interesting even though this match is a home match. Moreover, their opponents are Frankfurt, whose performance has been unstable so far in their matches. Unfortunately this season, Dortmund's performance has not been ideal with their center forward having problems scoring goals. So far, Fullkrug has only been able to score 2 goals in 8 matches with Dortmund. Meanwhile, Heller experienced more difficulties without scoring a goal in his 8 matches. Fortunately, Terzic has a fairly efficient strategy that allows other players to contribute to scoring goals. In this match, Fullkrug's consistency will be tested again against Frankfurt.

On the Frankfurt side, their performance really went up and down.  However, in the last two matches in all competitions, they were able to win their matches well. With this result, it can provide motivation for Dino Toppmoller's squad when they host Dortmund. who will definitely play at home, Frankfurt is targeting full points. The odds they have @3.30, it is very interesting if you choose Frankfurt in this match. refers to patterns and systems, both teams will play with the same pattern. My feeling is that this match will be quite tough. my estimation, Frankfurt has the potential to win this battle.
Well, for me this is an interesting challenge to bet on the home team with odds @3.30. So, a win for Frankfurt. even though in reality, I just chose the handicap option with +05 @1.71. however, the 1x2 odds are very attractive. and, let's see.

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This is a difficult answer and will be contradictory, based on the beliefs held regardless of the gambler. in my understanding and understanding, we can see it from all points of view. but for me personally, whatever we do, good or bad, straight or winding, our creator will give us choices according to what we want and want. In this discussion, it is related to gambling. In essence, whatever we do, in the form of business, will always produce results, even if we commit fraud, rob, cheat, and all kinds of things. The Almighty, will give blessing to whatever we do.

However, every action, effort, or any kind, will produce different results. Every action we take is always approved, no matter whether it is right or wrong. It's just that, we will receive the punishment according to what we do and that is the law of cause and effect. If you believe in a supreme being, a power, he can give you fortune through anything, even from gambling. but in context, it varies depending on our conditions and situations. In fact, it could be related to luck. well, that's why I said, the answer will be contradictory. But it all depends on the extent of your understanding.

In Asia, there are quite a few gamblers who carry out certain rituals involving spirits to be involved in gambling. usually, for lottery gambling. there are those who are able to make it happen, but with certain rewards from the entity.  The point is, whatever we do is all with the permission of the Almighty.  For the rest, we will be responsible.  btw, if someone doesn't have faith, trust, just ignore what I say.

IMO, it has become a necessity for Al Nassr to win the match against Al-Feiha, especially referring to the H2H records of meetings between these two teams, Al-Feiha always loses when they meet Al Nassr in both home and away matches.
Referring to yesterday's match between Al Hilal vs Al-Ahli, which the home team won. hinting that Al Nassr must win the match to maintain a points distance from the top of the standings. Referring to the first match, it seems that the match went quite tough. Even though Al Nassr was slightly better in possession of the ball, it seemed like the home team also put up resistance and this was proven by the statistics of both teams in the first half.

In terms of opportunities, the two teams did not have a significant difference, Al-Feiha with a total of 6 shots, Al Nassr with 8 total shots.  These two teams both had 1 shot on target. Apart from that, Al-Feiha has 2 big chances, Al Nassr only has 1 big chance.  In the second half it wasn't much different, even though Al Nassr actually increased the aggressiveness of their game. The point is, both teams have the same chances.The difference is, Al-Feiha only had 3 big opportunities, while Al Nassr was able to take advantage of 3 opportunities to convert them into goals. As a result, Ronaldo and his colleagues were able to win this match and at the same time shift Al Taawoun's position to second place. Thus, these two rivals are only temporarily separated by 4 points.  Al Hilal with 29 points, while Al Nassr with 25 points. Next, let's follow which teams consistently play match after match in the Saudi Pro League competition.

But the bad news is, it seems that Anderson Talisca had a problem, therefore he was withdrawn in the 67th minute.  So far, there has been no news regarding his injury.

In this competition, especially in the Group E phase, Liverpool actually don't have opponents who are equal to the quality of the players they have. That's why, in their 3 matches, Liverpool won the match quite smoothly. but if we talk about the highest competition, namely the Champions League. Not necessarily, if Liverpool can play well in every match. especially, if they join big clubs. This will put quite a lot of pressure on Jurgen Klopp's squad. Likewise Liverpool's ranking in the Premier League, they are in 4th place, 6 points adrift of the top of the standings But that doesn't mean Liverpool can't compete in the Champions League competition. It's just that maybe their opponents will be a team that can make it difficult for them to play in this competition.

Well, because in reality Liverpool are currently in the Europa League. So, let's just talk about things related to this competition. The point is, Liverpool's chance to win Group E has quite a high probability. Just like Bayer Leverkusen, Roma also achieved positive results in their 3 matches, they have a chance to qualify for the next phase. Marseille is no exception, even though it could be said to be an Underdog team, who knows, Gattuso will be able to improve his team's performance. What is certain is that Liverpool is not the only one who has the chance to be a candidate to win this competition. because, there are other teams who are also ready to go all out to become winners. Therefore, let's just enjoy every match that this competition presents.

Oh, it's very clear why, because the group phase matches aren't really over yet. In football, every possibility can happen. Even though in their three matches, Barcelona won full points and has collected 9 points. and this also applies to every team that still has matches in the Champions League group phase. So, not only for Barcelona.
Currently, two Barcelona players have returned to play in the El Clasico match. although I can't guarantee whether they will really recover from their injuries. Perdri and De Jong will follow soon. So it is very likely that on the fourth matchday, Barcelona's core players will recover. Moreover, of the teams that were their opponents in the H group phase, only Porto was able to provide fierce resistance to Barcelona.

But when these two teams meet later, the injured Barcelona players have recovered from their injuries. They just need to improve their fitness again, in order to play with their best performance in match after match and including in this competition. and I am sure, Barcelona will win group H and ensure they qualify for the next round. There is a big possibility that Porto will accompany him to the round of 16.

Jude Bellingham's kick is very cool, he is getting more mature in his game and has quite good shooting accuracy. Even though Bacelona lost, I'm quite happy they were able to put up a fight with their young players. If Barcelona played with its full squad, this match would add excitement to the El Calsico battle. Unfortunately, De Jong and Pedri had to be absent from this crucial match. and as I said in many posts leading up to this match before it started. if Xavi, has the potential to change his tactics and system. and it was proven, Xavi did not use a 4-3-3 formation pattern, but chose 3-4-2-1. slightly different from what Ancelotti uses, 4-1-3-2. It seems that Don Carlo already knows the strategy that Xavi Hernandez will carry out. This match went quite hard. winning first, Barcelona still did not relax their attacks.

In the second half, Real Madrid increased their attacking aggressiveness even more. Unfortunately, Xavi changed his pattern by withdrawing Torres and being replaced by Lewandowski. and finally, Bellingham equalized to 1-1 in the 66th minute. Instead of wanting to increase his attack power, IMO, Xavi made a substitution mistake. Also supposed to be, Gavi is in Lopez's position, and Lopez is in the midfielder. Also, Torres was not played, and his position was filled by Lamine Yamal. maybe, the situation would be different. Unfortunately, in the final minutes, Real Madrid sealed their victory when Bellingham scored another goal in the 90th minute+. As a result, Barcelona lost for the first time. plus, 4 points adrift of Madrid. Even so, Barcelona's chance is still wide open. After all, these two rivals still have many matches to complete until the end of the competition. and goes ups and downs, this is very likely to happen to both teams when playing match after match.

A match that Arsenal should win, considering that these two teams have a very significant gap. Well, if Nketiah isn't able to do it like in the match against Sheffield. That means, Nketiah is not worthy of being an Arsenal striker. fortunately, he was able to score a hat trick. At least, that was quite enough for him against Sheffield, who in fact was the weakest team in this competition, who was in last place on the Premier League standings with only 1 point. With this victory, Arsenal is now in 2nd place, 2 points adrift of Spurs who are at the top of the standings.

In the previous post, I tried to make a prediction to one of the community members.I predict, Arsenal will score at least 3 goals. because referring to the 1x2 option, betting is not ideal, while over 2.5 goals is also not ideal with odds @1.33. that's why, I recommend to bet on more than 4 goals. with the scenario, at least Arsenal scores 3 goals. while the opposing team scores 1 goal. the result, a draw.  but if it turns out that Arsenal is able to score more than 3 goals. that means, victory is certain. and yep, it was proven that Arsenal was able to score 5 goals against Sheffield.
Apart from all that, next week Arsenal will visit West Ham's headquarters. based on betting, Arsenal remains the favorite. So, 3 points in the next match is an obligation for them to achieve. Meanwhile, Spurs will host Chelsea. Next week, changes to the top standings may occur.

From the start in the first post, I stated that Bayern would score lots of goals in this match. apart from that, it turns out that Neuer is back as the main goalkeeper. However, if we refer to betting options, the odds available are not ideal at all. even with the hancidap option. not many choices, only offers Over or Under. armed with the results of research and analysis, I am sure that Bayern will score at least 4 goals against Darmstadt in the previous post. and yep, in the first half the match was completely unexpected, in the 4th minute Kimmich got a red card. As the match progressed, two Darmstadt players, namely those who played in defense, were given red cards. the first half ended with a score of 0-0.

But after that, Bayern greatly benefited from the release of two defenders from the Darmstadt squad. Kane started his team's lead, scoring a goal in the 51st minute. 5 minutes later, it was Sane's turn to increase Bayern Munich's advantage. 4 minutes later, Jamal Musiala also increased the position. After that, a series of goals made things even worse for the Darmstadt squad. which in the end the score ended with 8-0. A sweet debut for Manuel Neuer, after a long absence. For Kane, his hat trick in this match brought him closer to Guirassy who has scored 14 goals. while Kane, with 12 goals. Finally, this match was completely unexpected. However, the results match my predictions in the previous post. Over 5 with odds @2.26 exceeds expectations. Now Bayern is temporarily ranked first. Well, Leverkusen must win the match against Freiburg tomorrow, then the position at the top of the standings will be taken over again.

This match will be a test match for Monaco when they visit Lille headquarters. even though Lille is in 5th place in the standings, of the 5 matches they played in various competitions, Lille is unbeaten, even though 2 of those matches ended in a draw. apart from that, Lille also has an interesting record playing on its own ground. Of the 4 matches played, only 1 was lost and 3 were wins. Apart from that, Lille needs full points to improve their ranking in the Ligue 1 standings.

Meanwhile, Monaco needs full points to shift Nice's position, which is currently at the top of the standings with a difference of 2 points. Monaco needs a win, if the results are not good. This means that PSG can overtake Manaco's position if they beat Brestois in tomorrow's meeting. Fortunately, Monaco has good motivation after winning consecutive matches and that can be an asset in the match against Lille. but what is certain is that this match will not be easy for Manaco to get full points. Moreover, if we refer to betting, the home team is slightly superior to the bookies. At the last meeting between these two teams, the match ended in a draw. So, let's take part in this fight tomorrow.