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October 29, 2023, 12:13:08 PM
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I think his post is nothing to do with the match between Barcelona vs Real Madrid. It is true that Barcelona is dominating group H, they always win every match and be the leader of group H now. It is very obvious that Barcelona performance in UCL looks impressive so far. However, it is still in group phase, we don't know how Barcelona can maintain the good form when the group phase is over (knockout phase).

I don't want to conclude how far Barcelona to compete in UCL based on the result on La Liga. Sometimes, the performance in UCL and local competition can be different or contradictory (opposite). Although Barcelona looks dropping their performance in La Liga, how knows if they can play better in UCL.

It all depends on who they meet at the 1/8 final stage. At the moment, Barcelona have average results - in La Liga they have drawn three times with weak teams and once lost the game to a strong team (Real Madrid). With no other big games Barcelona have had this season, it was hard to tell how good or bad they were overall. But if at the 1/8 stage they come across someone strong, then I am sure that Barcelona will be the underdog.

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October 29, 2023, 12:18:00 PM
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I think it's still too early to predict anything about Barcelona. , they have to improve a lot of their shortcomings to be able to perform even better.
Barcelona fans and their hierarchy have to be very patient with Xavi, they cannot win the CL this season, and i don't think it is going to happen anytime soon, last season Xavi managed to win the LaLiga, but they were eliminated from the CL in the group stage. There is progress this season, because they have won 3 out of 3 in their group and they are almost certain to qualify, but how far can they go? I don't think it is possible for Barcelona to go past the QF stage of the CL this season, they were used to being contenders of the CL every season, but not anymore and their fans have to live with it.
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October 29, 2023, 12:38:39 PM
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I don't think the Barcelona squad is very strong. There are weaknesses in the Barcelona squad. Still, this squad has the ability to perform well against the big teams. Barcelona lost yesterday against Madrid. But there is no way to say that Barcelona's performance was too bad. Barcelona played well but luck was not with them. However, Xavi still needs to work on making the team more stable. If you want to win the Champions League title, you must come to take more consistency in Barcelona's performance. Without consistency of performance, it is not possible to do well in the Champions League. Xavi is a very hardworking coach. It is expected that Barcelona will do well in the Champions League this season.
Xavi Hernandez would encourage his new young players to suit up for the main squad, because it's time to elevate the team to the next level, no longer counting on the primary players, but rather sticking to future plans, which are the young players who are eager to start for the team, which might crumble currently, but they will definitely become stronger in games. I doubt Barcelona will reach a vital stage in the UEFA Champions League this season because they are woefully underperforming in La Liga but are yet to show any signs in UCL competition.

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October 29, 2023, 12:53:17 PM
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We can't judge Barcelona like this, we know Xavi is a great coach but we can't forget that Barcelona has many financial issues and this team couldn't buy the players Xavi needs to have. In fact, even if Xavi is the best coach in the world still he needs better players, I think that's why they lost the El Classico game recently against Real Madrid in La Liga.
I think that people need to stop to use financial issues as excuses. Barcelona has also a good quality of club. It doesn't even make sense to keep say that financial issued as the problem that was preventing barcelona to win the game. Barcelona has not yet paid its transfer fees to the other clubs. No reason to use it as a way to not judge him. In fact, those guys being chosen by xavi itself and barcelona bought them all with all of money.

Who is the guy intitiating lewandowski or even felix to be bought from another club? It's xavi. That's why stop to call him as a best coach in the world. Barcelona does have high quality players on its club.
Some garbage clubs like girona has only a few quality players on its club compared with barcelona but the coach was able changing the club a lot. That being said that when there will be more people to join in the club didn't also guarantee if the club can win the game.

I think that it's a common thing to blame xavi for his fault caused by he has responsibility over his club. This is the main concern for xavi about how to implement a better strategy.
Laporta was making a move based on xavi's request.

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October 29, 2023, 01:24:07 PM
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I think it's still too early to predict anything about Barcelona. , they have to improve a lot of their shortcomings to be able to perform even better.
Barcelona fans and their hierarchy have to be very patient with Xavi, they cannot win the CL this season, and i don't think it is going to happen anytime soon, last season Xavi managed to win the LaLiga, but they were eliminated from the CL in the group stage. There is progress this season, because they have won 3 out of 3 in their group and they are almost certain to qualify, but how far can they go? I don't think it is possible for Barcelona to go past the QF stage of the CL this season, they were used to being contenders of the CL every season, but not anymore and their fans have to live with it.

You've said your own opinion on how the season will be for Barcelona. The board members and management are not applying pressure on Xavi Hernandez. Yes, he is a Barcelona legend and they give time to them legends just like they did with Koeman.
Barcelona has whatever it takes to win the Champions League, they have experienced players that have won the Champions League final.

They could go on winning the next three fixtures in the group, that I double doubt because of Porto who are right behind them.  Players like, IIkay Gundogan, Robert Lewandoski, Marcos Alonso and lastly, Christensen has experience. They have the players and depth to win too.

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October 29, 2023, 01:37:52 PM
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I think that people need to stop to use financial issues as excuses. Barcelona has also a good quality of club. It doesn't even make sense to keep say that financial issued as the problem that was preventing barcelona to win the game. Barcelona has not yet paid its transfer fees to the other clubs. No reason to use it as a way to not judge him. In fact, those guys being chosen by xavi itself and barcelona bought them all with all of money.

Who is the guy intitiating lewandowski or even felix to be bought from another club? It's xavi. That's why stop to call him as a best coach in the world. Barcelona does have high quality players on its club.
Some garbage clubs like girona has only a few quality players on its club compared with barcelona but the coach was able changing the club a lot. That being said that when there will be more people to join in the club didn't also guarantee if the club can win the game.

I think that it's a common thing to blame xavi for his fault caused by he has responsibility over his club. This is the main concern for xavi about how to implement a better strategy.
Laporta was making a move based on xavi's request.
I think there is nothing to blame when the club doesn't get good results, Barcelona tried their best and they were unlucky, Madrid deserves appreciation. I also understand that victory is not achieved by luck alone, but rather by going through such a preparation stage. El Clasico matches always absorb a lot of emotion, giving rise to various reactions from fans, but what is clear is that we have seen matches like this many times, and we have also seen both of them beat each other in the past.

Overall I quite enjoyed the match, and Bellingham was the difference in last edition of El Clasiko. Despite Barcelona defeat, this is not a game that completely determines the end of the season, I mean there are 27 more games ahead, and we never know how the season will end.

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October 29, 2023, 02:24:25 PM
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Several teams that have consistently won in the last 3 Champions League matches are Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Manchester City and Barcelona. I think these four teams will only need 2 more wins to maintain their chances of safely qualifying for the next round and I think it will be quite easy for them. For Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, perhaps they are in a quite difficult group because Manchester United and Napoli are predicted to disrupt their chances, but it seems that is no longer a problem. On the other hand, Manchester City and Barcelona are in a group filled mostly with weak teams and I think it will be easier for both of them to secure points in the next match without any problems.

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October 29, 2023, 03:33:34 PM
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Xavi Hernandez would encourage his new young players to suit up for the main squad, because it's time to elevate the team to the next level, no longer counting on the primary players, but rather sticking to future plans, which are the young players who are eager to start for the team, which might crumble currently, but they will definitely become stronger in games. I doubt Barcelona will reach a vital stage in the UEFA Champions League this season because they are woefully underperforming in La Liga but are yet to show any signs in UCL competition.
In the Champions League Barcelona has quite the advantage over the teams that are not that strong in group H, but in La Liga Barcelona is still able to be beaten by its true rivals like yesterday at home so it is appropriate for Barcelona to use young players in their squad without more reliance on aging main players. I also think that in the Champions League this season Barcelona will not run smoothly because there are many strong teams that will be obstacles for him, but in La Liga Barcelona still has the opportunity to make improvements in order to advance to first place this season.

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October 29, 2023, 03:35:11 PM
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I don't think the Barcelona squad is very strong. There are weaknesses in the Barcelona squad. Still, this squad has the ability to perform well against the big teams. Barcelona lost yesterday against Madrid. But there is no way to say that Barcelona's performance was too bad. Barcelona played well but luck was not with them. However, Xavi still needs to work on making the team more stable. If you want to win the Champions League title, you must come to take more consistency in Barcelona's performance. Without consistency of performance, it is not possible to do well in the Champions League. Xavi is a very hardworking coach. It is expected that Barcelona will do well in the Champions League this season.
Xavi Hernandez would encourage his new young players to suit up for the main squad, because it's time to elevate the team to the next level, no longer counting on the primary players, but rather sticking to future plans, which are the young players who are eager to start for the team, which might crumble currently, but they will definitely become stronger in games. I doubt Barcelona will reach a vital stage in the UEFA Champions League this season because they are woefully underperforming in La Liga but are yet to show any signs in UCL competition.

They are bad in La Liga? Are you not wrong to say that?
They're in 3rd place now and is that a bad thing? Sure, they may have lost a big game yesterday, but they can't say it was because they played badly, especially since it was a very draining game and they didn't have a ful squad.
I think they are much better now, although not as good as in their heyday, but if we compare with the previous season then we will see they are much better.
There is still hope for them in the Champions League, at least they can provide competition and not fall in the group stages.

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October 29, 2023, 03:45:55 PM
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Newcastle who are playing in the UEFA Champions League competition for the first time in over 20 years were very unlucky to find themselves in a group that is believed to be the most difficult of all the group in the competition this season.
However, they've not been really poor with their results this season and after drawing their first game in the competition this season, they defeated the group F favorite team to win the group which is Paris Saint Germaine before they were narrowly beaten by Borussia Dortmund during this week. I think they're still very likely to progress to the next stage of the competition abd that they must win Dortmund when they host the German club in two weeks time to increase their chances of qualifying from the group.
Newcastle United still has hope in Group F because there are 3 more matches remaining which can change everything. For now, PSG may be the strongest, but these four teams will of course change positions in the standings table in the next 3 matches. Indeed, previously many thought that Newcastle United would not be able to compete with the other 3 teams because they had been absent for a long time in the Champions League. But in the matches they played, of course they were able to put pressure on their opponents.

For the time being, AC Milan may be having a bad rally in Group F because they have not managed to win in the 3 matches they have played. Even though they still have a chance to take second place, I doubt their quality this season. In my opinion AC Milan will probably be eliminated earlier in the Champions League this season.

Newcastle United definitely has hope, but it is going to be really hard.  Now the thing is they are on the third position and it is still very much possible for them to qualify. However the problem is the whole group is made up of really strong teams, so they will have to work  really hard to win against these teams.  I can see right now Dortmund and Newcastle United has same points, but I don't understand why Newcastle is on the third position because they have a better goal difference compared to Dortmund. But I'm sure it is going to change, so I think we don't have to worry about that too much.

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October 29, 2023, 03:52:40 PM
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Several teams that have consistently won in the last 3 Champions League matches are Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Manchester City and Barcelona. I think these four teams will only need 2 more wins to maintain their chances of safely qualifying for the next round and I think it will be quite easy for them. For Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, perhaps they are in a quite difficult group because Manchester United and Napoli are predicted to disrupt their chances, but it seems that is no longer a problem. On the other hand, Manchester City and Barcelona are in a group filled mostly with weak teams and I think it will be easier for both of them to secure points in the next match without any problems.
Even some of them only need 1 more win to ensure themselves will qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League this season. They swept all their matches with a win and even the victories they got had no significant obstacles.
I know it's too early to say this, but I'm pretty sure the 4 teams you mentioned will be in the round of 16. I also know anything can happen in football, but looking at the opponents they will face, at least 2 wins is realistic for them.

Meanwhile, the competition in group F is still very tight with a very tight point difference from the 4 teams that are joined there.

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October 29, 2023, 03:53:14 PM
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I don't think the Barcelona squad is very strong. There are weaknesses in the Barcelona squad. Still, this squad has the ability to perform well against the big teams. Barcelona lost yesterday against Madrid. But there is no way to say that Barcelona's performance was too bad. Barcelona played well but luck was not with them. However, Xavi still needs to work on making the team more stable. If you want to win the Champions League title, you must come to take more consistency in Barcelona's performance. Without consistency of performance, it is not possible to do well in the Champions League. Xavi is a very hardworking coach. It is expected that Barcelona will do well in the Champions League this season.
Xavi Hernandez would encourage his new young players to suit up for the main squad, because it's time to elevate the team to the next level, no longer counting on the primary players, but rather sticking to future plans, which are the young players who are eager to start for the team, which might crumble currently, but they will definitely become stronger in games. I doubt Barcelona will reach a vital stage in the UEFA Champions League this season because they are woefully underperforming in La Liga but are yet to show any signs in UCL competition.

They are bad in La Liga? Are you not wrong to say that?
They're in 3rd place now and is that a bad thing? Sure, they may have lost a big game yesterday, but they can't say it was because they played badly, especially since it was a very draining game and they didn't have a ful squad.
I think they are much better now, although not as good as in their heyday, but if we compare with the previous season then we will see they are much better.
There is still hope for them in the Champions League, at least they can provide competition and not fall in the group stages.
Before yesterday's defeat in the hands and f league leaders Real Madrid, Barcelona were the only team in the Spanish top flight that was still unbeaten and I that's why I think it's totally out of proportion to think that they've been poor in the La Liga this season.
The truth is that the current Barcelona squad isn't strong enough to be considered as a serious contender for the UEFA Champions League title but for anyone to say they're currently performing bad I think is a disrespect for everything Xavi Hernandez has done with the team this season

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October 29, 2023, 04:02:01 PM
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We can't judge Barcelona like this, we know Xavi is a great coach but we can't forget that Barcelona has many financial issues and this team couldn't buy the players Xavi needs to have. In fact, even if Xavi is the best coach in the world still he needs better players, I think that's why they lost the El Classico game recently against Real Madrid in La Liga.
Just let xavi to proves his capability in the UCL first. It is too early to call him as the best coach in the world. I think that if we have seen that he was always failed in bringing barcelona to the quarter or semifinal. I don't put a very big expectation toward him at this moment.
People shall need to let him try to give proof if he was able changing barcelona to be even better than before. Barcelona was always strong in la liga but it was weak in the UCL. Wnning the group stage does not guarantee barcelona to go to the further stage easily.
People are always calling him as the best coach in the world which doesn't even make sense. Xavi is nothing than average coach that was helping the club to win the domestic competition.
The coach like ancellotti which can be called as the best coach as he had been winning so many trophies in various competitions. It's too early to call xavi as a world class coach.

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October 29, 2023, 04:15:34 PM
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Xavi Hernandez would encourage his new young players to suit up for the main squad, because it's time to elevate the team to the next level, no longer counting on the primary players, but rather sticking to future plans, which are the young players who are eager to start for the team, which might crumble currently, but they will definitely become stronger in games. I doubt Barcelona will reach a vital stage in the UEFA Champions League this season because they are woefully underperforming in La Liga but are yet to show any signs in UCL competition.

I hope you do remember how Barcelona turned into flash in a twinkle of an eye during second leg in Laliga, and that was when Real Madrid start to skip wins in their matches. 4 points differences in a domestic league is too fresh to start to think they will not go far. However, the UEFA stage is excellent condition, having played 3 matches without with 3 wins is something to be happy about, I don't think they will have any problem here perhaps maybe after this point and if they are lucky the way the group stage was easy, it is going to be another inducement to further to Semi final.

Several teams that have consistently won in the last 3 Champions League matches are Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Manchester City and Barcelona. I think these four teams will only need 2 more wins to maintain their chances of safely qualifying for the next round and I think it will be quite easy for them. For Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, perhaps they are in a quite difficult group because Manchester United and Napoli are predicted to disrupt their chances, but it seems that is no longer a problem. On the other hand, Manchester City and Barcelona are in a group filled mostly with weak teams and I think it will be easier for both of them to secure points in the next match without any problems.

Going further, Barcelona don't have any business in group stage, too real to further into group of 16, Real Madrid will go for sure even with Napoli because out of that 4 teams in their group stage, they are the only attested teams that will move out of the stage, the remaining two will go home, one to Europa while the other one will go home to rest and try again next year.

Watching Elclasico yesterday, it embossed my confidence in Real Madrid to win this season Champions League, we now have another Haaland of last year among us and that's like the only guy that is pumping Real Madrid to win this league this season, even Haaland of Manchester City doesn't comes close to what he is doing right now.

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October 29, 2023, 04:46:22 PM
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I think it's still too early to predict anything about Barcelona. , they have to improve a lot of their shortcomings to be able to perform even better.
Barcelona fans and their hierarchy have to be very patient with Xavi, they cannot win the CL this season, and i don't think it is going to happen anytime soon, last season Xavi managed to win the LaLiga, but they were eliminated from the CL in the group stage. There is progress this season, because they have won 3 out of 3 in their group and they are almost certain to qualify, but how far can they go? I don't think it is possible for Barcelona to go past the QF stage of the CL this season, they were used to being contenders of the CL every season, but not anymore and their fans have to live with it.

You've said your own opinion on how the season will be for Barcelona. The board members and management are not applying pressure on Xavi Hernandez. Yes, he is a Barcelona legend and they give time to them legends just like they did with Koeman.
Barcelona has whatever it takes to win the Champions League, they have experienced players that have won the Champions League final.

They could go on winning the next three fixtures in the group, that I double doubt because of Porto who are right behind them.  Players like, IIkay Gundogan, Robert Lewandoski, Marcos Alonso and lastly, Christensen has experience. They have the players and depth to win too.

Barcelona success this season to win the group, because basically Barcelona is in a group that was not strong. Obviously, this factor is different from the previous two seasons, where Barcelona were in a strong group inthe previous two seasons in the Champions League. Therefore, it is natural if at this moment Barcelona will certainly qualify for the round of 16. But despite this, Barcelona does not have a good chance of advancing further, maybe Barcelona can still qualify for the quarter finals. But it looks like Barcelona still no chance of qualifying for the semifinals because, even though Barcelona has a great squad. But in fact, it is still difficult for Barcelona to win in every match and of course, this factor means that Barcelona still needs time to have a better performance in all matches and in all competitions.

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October 29, 2023, 04:55:17 PM
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They are bad in La Liga? Are you not wrong to say that?
They're in 3rd place now and is that a bad thing? Sure, they may have lost a big game yesterday, but they can't say it was because they played badly, especially since it was a very draining game and they didn't have a ful squad.
I think they are much better now, although not as good as in their heyday, but if we compare with the previous season then we will see they are much better.
There is still hope for them in the Champions League, at least they can provide competition and not fall in the group stages.
Before yesterday's defeat in the hands and f league leaders Real Madrid, Barcelona were the only team in the Spanish top flight that was still unbeaten and I that's why I think it's totally out of proportion to think that they've been poor in the La Liga this season.
The truth is that the current Barcelona squad isn't strong enough to be considered as a serious contender for the UEFA Champions League title but for anyone to say they're currently performing bad I think is a disrespect for everything Xavi Hernandez has done with the team this season
And that's why I'm questioning what's the reason for saying Barcelona are doing badly in La Liga, the fact is they're now top of the table with good points too.
In the Champions League they're top of the table with perfect points and given that I'm optimistic they'll go through to the next round. But on the other hand I agree with you that the competition in the Champions League is very tight, and for now I also think the squad they have is not strong enough when compared to other clubs here. and the problem is when they have to lose players due to injury, it will add to their problems.

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October 29, 2023, 05:24:41 PM
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They are bad in La Liga? Are you not wrong to say that?
They're in 3rd place now and is that a bad thing? Sure, they may have lost a big game yesterday, but they can't say it was because they played badly, especially since it was a very draining game and they didn't have a ful squad.
I think they are much better now, although not as good as in their heyday, but if we compare with the previous season then we will see they are much better.
There is still hope for them in the Champions League, at least they can provide competition and not fall in the group stages.

For the last five weeks in the La Liga I can say that Barcelona have lost some pace. Because they lost 7 points in these games. The last one hit them even harder as they lost in the El Clasico. Everything is fine for Barcelona in the Champions League for now. They are in a very comfortable group to finish as the leader.

However I think Xavi should focus on bringing better results in the La Liga by their upcoming games. The point gap with the leader there isn't big but they need to keep a consistent form not to experience the same thing Real Madrid did last season.

Real Madrid can easily pull away from them after some point otherwise.

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Several teams that have consistently won in the last 3 Champions League matches are Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Manchester City and Barcelona. I think these four teams will only need 2 more wins to maintain their chances of safely qualifying for the next round and I think it will be quite easy for them. For Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, perhaps they are in a quite difficult group because Manchester United and Napoli are predicted to disrupt their chances, but it seems that is no longer a problem. On the other hand, Manchester City and Barcelona are in a group filled mostly with weak teams and I think it will be easier for both of them to secure points in the next match without any problems.
Honestly they are big enough that nobody is shocked that they will be doing better and going further. It is not about if they will do good for the rest of the group stages, it is more about who they will face at the next stage and the stage after that. Let's realize that these teams are not going to all face different clubs all the time, they are going to eventually face each other, even year there is at least one team that faces another strong opponent at last sixteen and obviously at quarter finals at least one more matchup like that too.

So, it is clear that we are not going to end up with anything that would be all that shocking, we should be looking into this like it is going to end up with a bad result for at least one of the teams.

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October 29, 2023, 06:27:03 PM
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I don't think the Barcelona squad is very strong. There are weaknesses in the Barcelona squad. Still, this squad has the ability to perform well against the big teams. Barcelona lost yesterday against Madrid. But there is no way to say that Barcelona's performance was too bad. Barcelona played well but luck was not with them. However, Xavi still needs to work on making the team more stable. If you want to win the Champions League title, you must come to take more consistency in Barcelona's performance. Without consistency of performance, it is not possible to do well in the Champions League. Xavi is a very hardworking coach. It is expected that Barcelona will do well in the Champions League this season.
Xavi Hernandez would encourage his new young players to suit up for the main squad, because it's time to elevate the team to the next level, no longer counting on the primary players, but rather sticking to future plans, which are the young players who are eager to start for the team, which might crumble currently, but they will definitely become stronger in games. I doubt Barcelona will reach a vital stage in the UEFA Champions League this season because they are woefully underperforming in La Liga but are yet to show any signs in UCL competition.


I think you misunderstood, it is true that Barcelona now has several young Lama Sia players who are quite competent. Some of them predicted that their careers would become one of the great players. Like Lamine Yamal, this youngest player at the age of 16 has proven his talent and potential. The difference is that even though they are currently joining the main squad, their role will not be as important as that of the more stable and established players. It is hoped that these young talents will become the next Barcelona in the next few years. so, they are a projection of Barcelona's future.

Well, you know, Xavi will still rely on his main players. both in the Champions League and La Liga. Barcelona's performance in local competitions has declined due to the absence of several key players, so Xavi has no choice but to rely on several of their young players to fill the void left by several injured players. So far, Barcelona has progressed quite well.
Even though they lost in the El Clasico match, this was due to the fact that Barca did not play with a full squad. especially De Jong, who is the key in the midfield. Up to this point, I'm sure you understand quite well.
btw, next January, Deco will bring in Victor Roque. So, Barcelona's young players will increase. However, this Brazilian player seems to be more likely to replace Lewandowski. You can be sure that Barca will be ready after January.

For the Champions League, in the three matches they played, they won smoothly. Xavi just needs to keep his team consistent, so that they qualify as winners of Group H. Well, Barcelona still has a long way to go in this competition, especially in La Liga.

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October 29, 2023, 06:38:51 PM
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Xavi Hernandez would encourage his new young players to suit up for the main squad, because it's time to elevate the team to the next level, no longer counting on the primary players, but rather sticking to future plans, which are the young players who are eager to start for the team, which might crumble currently, but they will definitely become stronger in games. I doubt Barcelona will reach a vital stage in the UEFA Champions League this season because they are woefully underperforming in La Liga but are yet to show any signs in UCL competition.
Barcelona's performance in La Liga is not as bad as it is said, you definitely know that Barcelona has only suffered 1 defeat in 10 matches even though they are 4 points away from the current leaders. Xavi has a great chance of taking his team to the round of 16 after getting a relatively weak draw group, but everything cannot be guaranteed because the 3 teams they are playing against cannot be underestimated.

Barcelona has won 3/6 group stage matches, especially the first 3 matches. Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Manchester City are 3 other teams that also have the same record, but on paper Barcelona is a team that tends to be weaker than the 3 teams above, but Barcelona is still a competitive team.

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