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18741  Economy / Lending / Re: LoyceV's Legendary Little Lightning Loans on: June 07, 2019, 04:06:24 AM
lightning:lnbc1pw0n8j6pp5790h8zncfhxjperah0tn8l07czrfuughgrfaw2n9fkywr8muzjlsdqqxqr4rqrzj qwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glc7zxhe5qq8mgqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeq qjq5wharrjwufrhfphs87rpwf7l36hk4s786hr6fwdgaterye0lzz3pu6vz0pqv9jsalc3yxdw3cxgr rt49y870t7pz7x8dftf0nucmpngpwz2y9t
Payment failed: "Channel is currently disabled, remote failure".
18742  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Piedpipercoin & Piperchain = SCAM on: June 06, 2019, 07:26:39 PM
Again that IS NOT my website. I owned Piperchain.io.
At least at this part, I think PiedPiperCoin is right:
The archived topic doesn't show piedpipercoins.com, it shows piperchain.io.

USING IMAGES OF ACTORS / CELEBRITIES
Although this is the other website, it's obvious to any Silicon Valley fan that this is a parody. If they're really trying to sell their tokens it's very shady though.

The ANN-thread obviously has the standard BS bump spam.
18743  Other / Meta / Re: [Proposal] Alphabetical order for Stake your Bitcoin address here on: June 06, 2019, 03:43:33 PM
Unfortunately the second address (1GpTTD5EupwzmNYWLb2WDUrqYFPcHGVC4V) is not mine but belongs to Stevegee58.
As you can see in the link I just checked his address.
So could you delete it please?
It's known there are some incorrectly scraped addresses in the list. I prefer not to edit the list, so the unedited date doesn't change.
If anyone ever thinks the address belongs to you, clicking the link takes away all doubt.
18744  Economy / Speculation / Re: *Q2-BTC-PRCE PREDICTION-GAME* Q2 LIST GAME on: June 06, 2019, 02:42:49 PM
Halving was and is always going to be the definite marker. That's just the rational side.
I (unfortunately) expect the "power" of each halving to be lower than the last one, because the effect on the inflation is lower each time. See this graph (with non-lineair vertical axis):
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Eventually, newly mined Bitcoins will be less and less important compared to the existing supply.
18745  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The Lightning Network FAQ on: June 06, 2019, 02:36:14 PM
Hey LoyceV , as far as swapping to alts there's zigzag.io  Dash,LTC and ETH are on the list
Fee's are high though.
I haven't tried zigzag yet. I did try coinplaza.it, which has surprisingly low fees for a small transaction (even to onchain Bitcoin).
There's also fixedfloat.com, which I haven't tried yet.

Now consider LN Hubs will be processing offchain transactions in microseconds ,
So LN hubs hardware requirements/cost will grow at a much higher rate, especially the Main Hubs.
Unlike Bitcoin, that only charges to include a transaction in a block,
LN will impose variable fees on you for each hub needed to complete a LN transaction plus the 2 onchain bitcoin fees.

So how in your mind do you see LN fees staying cheap,
when there hardware requirements/cost for nodes are greater, and they have the ability to set their own LN fees.  Wink
I don't worry about this for the following reasons:
Bitcoin fees spiraled up because users have no choice. Miners only compete against each other for blocks, but that doesn't increase block space.
In LN, there will be many different routes, and hub owners compete against each other on fees. If fees are high and hub owners make large profits, new actors will join the hub-market until fees are lower again.
More transactions obviously increase hardware requirements, but more transactions also means there are more fees to be earned. At the moment I don't think hub owners make a profit from the few small fees. They actually need much more transactions to earn money. If there would be a million times more transactions, I don't think the hardware cost per transaction will be very high.



Update on my little experiment: now that I have a second channel, a 5 sat transaction takes only 5 msat fee, instead of 1 sat. That makes sense, as the other channel has a lower fee.
However, a 100 sat transaction now takes over 3 sat fee! It uses the new channel, while the other channel would have charged only 1 sat. So I guess routing still needs some work.
For small transactions, 3% is not a problem. However, if I would send (say) 0.1 BTC, I would like to see the fee upfront if it's going to be around 3%. I'm not sure if LN even supports that before completing the channel.



Another update: Despite having 2.5 mBTC "Total can send", I can't send 2 mBTC ("Your Lightning channels do not have enough balance"). When I try to send 1 mBTC, I get: "Payment failed, Route not found". After trying a few times, Coinplaza banned my IP for a few minutes.
I've read before that "larger" payments often can't be routed, now I found out by myself Tongue



I made several smaller payments to my account at tippin.me, which all worked. The total was >1 mBTC now. But: fees were just over 3%, which is the maximum Eclair allows (and the only thing about it in settings). I've recently made cheaper on-chain payments!
From tippin.me, I sent 101010.10 sat to coinplaza.it. This got me 1 mBTC on-chain to my Bitcoin address. And although 1 sat/byte is enough, coinplaza.it paid 128 sat/byte, which is about 31 times more than the margin they had on this transaction.

I pay much less fee through tippin.me than through the last channel I opened in Eclair. I'll try opening a channel to tippin.me's node next time.



After many transactions, Eclair doesn't show my full Payments history anymore. I can only see the last 5 days.
So far, I've lost less than 1 mBTC in total on fees. Not bad for a week and a half of LN-experimenting.

I think I picked a LN node without enough cheap connections.
I'm closing the "expensive" channel now, see how that works. It says "CLOSING  (cooperative"). It should be able to do this at very low fee. It looks like my 1.42 mBTC LN-balance turned into 1.32 mBTC on-chain. The total fee wasn't that high, but still 10-20 times higher than needed for a fast confirmation.



Question
How do I choose which node to open a channel to?
And: I expected payments to use both channels when possible, but until now that hasn't happened.
18746  Other / Meta / Re: Your bitcointalk IP log for the past 30 days now available. on: June 06, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
This is the first time I hear about this. Can you find some reference for this statement? I've changed my email recently and I did't got any warnings regarding such possibility.
It's the first time I've changed it but it won't be the last time for sure.
I will find it because I did not save link of that thread. Someone was curious about this, and tried with a new account, then that account locked after the second (or third, I don't remembered correctly) change of email, it was locked.
That account was locked because of clicking the link to lock it. This is as intended, it doesn't mean accounts are automatically locked after changing the email address.
18747  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Collection of 18.509 found and used Brainwallets on: June 06, 2019, 11:55:17 AM
Today was also a high value transaction to weak private key:
06.06.2019 10:39:25.107 0,25000000 1FJJTKza3HovjzguAnMY9VYPu5Kd6CRKa -> 07D6D38FF15148A755F8E64F2C3F7860DEBEBB1C / 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000007B7 / LowerAddr
Someone paid 21% ($400) fee to steal these funds! Bots are competing heavily to get picked by a miner.

Curious to know, does your program know of and then attempts the sweep transaction as soon as confirmation is received or do you already try to sweep it when the incoming tx is recognised?
The theft gets confirmed in the same block as the original transaction, so it doesn't wait for a confirmation.
18748  Other / Meta / Re: Your bitcointalk IP log for the past 30 days now available. on: June 06, 2019, 11:20:58 AM
This made me seriously rethink my archive site: my initial plan was to later add archiving features for all pages of Bitcointalk, but changes like this would suddenly publish my IP-address so I won't continue before I have a VPS.

maybe i miss something then explain Smiley
You're right, I could exclude this, but my worry is that similar other pages would emerge too, and if I have to disable them afterwards I might be too late.
18749  Other / Meta / Re: Suspicious thread - Possibly filled with sockpuppet accounts on: June 06, 2019, 10:13:17 AM
Maybe @LoyceV can make a list with everyone who posted in the thread to keep a better overview of the accounts.
The list
The following users have posted x times in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136002.0
This does not mean they're all bad users.
Merit is based on last Friday's data dump. I only show Merit if there has been at least 1 transaction. If it shows 0 Merit, that means the user has sent Merit, but didn't receive anything.
Trust is only shown if it's non-neutral.
     1. 5x (Newbie) libercrypto (BPIP)
     2. 3x (Legendary) eternalgloom (187 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
     3. 1x (Sr. Member) rafi035 (BPIP)
     4. 1x (Sr. Member) Tipstar (3 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
     5. 1x (Newbie) kopyto_zahrada (BPIP)
     6. 1x (Newbie) milanka432 (BPIP)
     7. 1x (Newbie) champagneboudoir (BPIP)
     8. 1x (Newbie) kitchenishome (BPIP)
     9. 1x (Newbie) locusparty (BPIP)
    10. 1x (Newbie) bambruscryvpto (BPIP)
    11. 1x (Newbie) operodareo (BPIP)
    12. 1x (Newbie) BranAssFace (BPIP)
    13. 1x (Newbie) sandersspoolge (BPIP)
    14. 1x (Newbie) Big Molecule (BPIP)
    15. 1x (Newbie) pip20crypto (BPIP)
    16. 1x (Newbie) petersapartment (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    17. 1x (Newbie) cryptodizzle67 (BPIP)
    18. 1x (Newbie) quarterpounderwithcrypto (BPIP)
    19. 1x (Newbie) jamesearlicrypto (BPIP)
    20. 1x (Newbie) Molekulabig (BPIP)
    21. 1x (Newbie) kocicinissi (BPIP)
    22. 1x (Newbie) cryptocatbean (BPIP)
    23. 1x (Newbie) eastkirkbycrypto (BPIP)
    24. 1x (Newbie) cruptocosta67 (BPIP)
    25. 1x (Newbie) compassowner (BPIP)
    26. 1x (Newbie) kalovyvarybarry (BPIP)
    27. 1x (Newbie) dashamasha (BPIP)
    28. 1x (Newbie) tavernakava (BPIP)
    29. 1x (Newbie) burundicraze (BPIP)
    30. 1x (Newbie) shadowcryptohunter (BPIP)
    31. 1x (Newbie) fridacrypto (BPIP)
    32. 1x (Newbie) cryptopiper (BPIP)
    33. 1x (Newbie) davoshuntcrypto (BPIP)
    34. 1x (Newbie) lisacrypton (BPIP)
    35. 1x (Newbie) chrimbobimbo (BPIP)
    36. 1x (Newbie) magicdave (BPIP)
    37. 1x (Newbie) michaelcrypson (BPIP)
    38. 1x (Newbie) tommydavis45 (BPIP)
    39. 1x (Newbie) jamesbean (BPIP)
    40. 1x (Newbie) 1978krcz (BPIP)
    41. 1x (Newbie) bleskyblesk (BPIP)
    42. 1x (Newbie) slavcoinking (BPIP)
    43. 1x (Newbie) bench4rench (BPIP)
    44. 1x (Newbie) georgeforeham (BPIP)
    45. 1x (Newbie) bithuner (BPIP)
    46. 1x (Newbie) iloveturtles (BPIP)
    47. 1x (Member) Pffrt (28 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    48. 1x (Member) clonely (10 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    49. 1x (Member) chatedha (12 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    50. 1x (Member) Cryptogiji (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    51. 1x (Member) burky155 (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    52. 1x (Legendary) robelneo (7 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    53. 1x (Legendary) alyssa85 (59 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    54. 1x (Jr. Member) thatsnotmyname (5 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    55. 1x (Jr. Member) Terrmit (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    56. 1x (Jr. Member) altcoinhoarder65 (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    57. 1x (Jr. Member) repetecrypto (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    58. 1x (Hero Member) coin-investor (3 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    59. 1x (Hero Member) bitcoin-shark (10 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    60. 1x (Hero Member) Adriano2010 (12 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    61. 1x (Hero Member) r32godzilla (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    62. 1x (Full Member) TheICE007 (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    63. 1x (Full Member) miropp (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    64. 1x (Full Member) baigreen (BPIP)
    65. 1x (Full Member) beetlejam (BPIP)
    66. 1x (Full Member) handy_hotdog (BPIP)
    67. 1x (Full Member) cryptowomba (BPIP)
    68. 1x (Full Member) roganite (BPIP)
    69. 1x (Full Member) bramborakymilenec (BPIP)
    70. 1x (Full Member) Olatunjex (2 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
    71. 1x (Copper Member) Chomsy (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
18750  Economy / Lending / Re: LoyceV's Legendary Little Lightning Loans on: June 06, 2019, 09:42:54 AM
I don't have an android device, so Eclair is not an option for me.
We're more or less "collecting" Android devices, so I can now literally use one device for one wallet, I'm still paranoid for installing new wallets, so I like to keep them strictly separated.

Quote
A custodial LN wallet does have some real world advantages, such as giving the end user free inbound liquidity, and allowing the end user to only send one transaction to the custodian instead of having to open many channels with many nodes. If the custodian is well connected in the LN, the end user may also have less failed transactions.
I'd like to see established trusted sites join this business. Exchanges for instance, although KYC isn't ideal, or maybe casinos.

Quote
The business model of custodians could be to use coin received by their users to open channels with liquidity they charge for.
I'd be okay paying a bit for that, or it could be used to lower their transaction fees, while getting more users for their business.


I deleted a Newbie's post. I'm not against a Newbie joining, but it has to be a real user who has an actual interest in LN. Not the generic default Newbie who has no idea what LN is, posts a Bitcoin address to asks for 0.1 mBTC here, and asks for 0.2 BTC in another topic. These I delete Tongue
18751  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The Lightning Network FAQ on: June 06, 2019, 09:11:36 AM
Until now, it wasn't clear to me how this would work, and it's still unclear to me how the transaction fee is determined.
The closing fee (0.2+ mBTC) was high enough to almost instantly confirm my funding fee (CPFP).
This fee moved my funds from one Bech32 address to another, and I assume it will move to my own address once it closes.
The funds were indeed sent to my own address with a very high fee per byte (total 0.18 mBTC, slightly lower than the previous fee). After this, I consolidated my funds with a 50 times lower fee, and this took 100 minutes to confirm. I can't help but feel like LN is wasting a rediculous amount on fees. I assume it's set by the node, but I'm not sure what it's based on.



Eclair doesn't allow coin control. Instead, it uses all available inputs (including dust) and consolidates them. That also leads to higher fees than needed. You can reduce the total fees by consolidating inputs with a low fee before funding a channel.



I'm funding another channel now, with a bit higher fee this time (currently 9 times more than what Bitcoin Core thinks is needed to confirm within 2 hours).



https://1ml.com gives an extensive overview of LN nodes, including an overview of the base fees. I'm not sure what everthing means though, there's a lot to take in for new LN users.
I'm now bookmarking the nodes on my laptop, so I can find them back on Android.



What I really like about LN, is that many inputs no longer lead to a higher fee. "Bitcoin dust" isn't a problem anymore as long as it's within LN.
LN doesn't allow to send a payment without making a payment request, but I read this might be included in a future upgrade. I can imagine this will be great for advertising: send a fraction of a satoshi to all channels you can find, and add a message. Without some sort of spam protection this might become a problem in the future.
18752  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Bondareva85 on: June 06, 2019, 07:34:58 AM
Close the topic please!
Bottom-left corner: click "lock topic".
18753  Other / Meta / Re: inline comment in trust setting. on: June 06, 2019, 06:11:47 AM
I made a topic for my exclusions (and invited others to add theirs):
Reference post: Why have I excluded members on my trust list?
Since I can't give an explanation or Reference link with my trust list, I'll keep track here.

Adding it to the Trust list would be better though (as long as it stays out of the Trust data dump).
18754  Other / Meta / Re: Please disable Fake ANNs download links , theymos ! on: June 06, 2019, 04:08:10 AM
Has the same download link as others has got !
This link was recently posted by:
     1.wyj1306 (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 17 Autobanned! -- post > Report to moderator
     2.bogema126 (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 0 Nuked! -- post > Report to moderator
     3.yasinakas1357 (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 0 Nuked! -- post > Report to moderator
     4.djdj1992 (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 0 Nuked! -- post > Report to moderator
     5.SjnCoin (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 0 Nuked! -- post > Report to moderator
     6.varunranganath (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 0 Nuked! -- post > Report to moderator
     7.LackyMan (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 0 Nuked! -- post > Report to moderator
     8.mmeza (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 0 Nuked! -- post > Report to moderator
     9.antton (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 0 Nuked! -- post > Report to moderator
    10.lukjn73 (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 0 Nuked! -- post > Report to moderator
    11.Tsankov (Trust: neutral) - Activity: 0 Nuked! -- post > Report to moderator
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18755  Other / Meta / Re: Lightning Network board on: June 05, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
I like it! Assuming LN keeps growing, it'll need it's own board at some point in the future anyway.
Bitcointalk currently is far from the best source for information about LN, I'd like to (help) change that.

It should have a moderator though, a few users seem to dislike LN and want to post that in many different threads. If this could be centralized in one thread on the LN board that would keep threads like the FAQ clean.

Or perhaps a Layer 2 board, for threads about Lightning, Liquid sidechain, Statechains and whatever else is coming.
Multiple child boards could work.
18756  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Collection of 18.509 found and used Brainwallets on: June 05, 2019, 07:16:37 PM
Last big transaction to weak private key on my radar was 0,06473026 to 0xBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
(1NiEGXeURREqqMjCvjCeZn6SwEBZ9AdVet)

Why does somebody do this? Donation to the bots? or really accidentally?
I'm amazed it lasted that long: it took 7 minutes to be sweeped! The private key to address 1NiEGXeURREqqMjCvjCeZn6SwEBZ9AdVet was even posted on Bitcointalk in 2011:
Code:
Addr B: 1NiEGXeURREqqMjCvjCeZn6SwEBZ9AdVet (PrivKey:bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb)
18757  Economy / Services / Re: LoyceV's Avatar for Rent on: June 05, 2019, 06:59:25 PM
Eleventh week paid.
Received Smiley Thanks again, your timing is still impeccable!

My timing on the other hand is a tad slow, I was enjoying the weather (while cleaning my car).
18758  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [GUIDES] on Bitcointalk. Index thread (until there is a dedicated subforum?) on: June 05, 2019, 03:46:34 PM
Sorry, what I meant was I'd like to make a list of threads that discuss Vanity Wallets. I've found some old threads.
Even better, let me know when I can add it Smiley

Added!
18759  Economy / Speculation / Re: *Q2-BTC-PRCE PREDICTION-GAME* Q2 LIST GAME on: June 05, 2019, 03:41:32 PM
Holy shit this list makes us all look like bears!
At least my (wife's Tongue) prediction is bearish again, but I can't help having "a bear thought": what if this was the bull trap?

I expect the next real bull market 4 months after the next halving Smiley
18760  Other / Meta / Re: Should there be a bitcointalk app? on: June 05, 2019, 08:51:54 AM
Are you having an issue browsing the forum from your mobile?
The only real problem I have on LoyceMobile is that I have to scroll a bit from left to right to read posts. A bigger screen would solve that, unless the forum formatting could change a bit.
I don't think it's worth developing an app to offer the same features a webbrowser has already.
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