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1881  Economy / Speculation / Re: Flash Crash Buy Orders. on: February 18, 2014, 04:43:59 PM
Although I'd love to see coins that cheap so I could buy a boatload, I just don't see that happening.  Why?  Because anyone who has studied the Trendline theory and believes in it will see that a dip to the $150-100 level and stay there for a long time (without 2+ million bitcoiners and many whales scooping them up instantly) would be almost catastrophic to the overall trend.  Might as well get out of the game completely if that happens.  Which is why I'm pretty convinced it'll stay ~$500's, with perhaps a flash crash to a bit lower.

90% of the price during the 2011 bubble was WELL above the trendline support level for the number of users at the time.  That's why it took so long for the price to recover to that ATH.

The price is just now just at the trendline support level, and the trendline average price is growing every day that passes.  And I'm not just talking about the support bids you see on the exchanges.  I'm talking about the 2+ million bitcoiners (+ 10,000 per day that are new to bitcoin) waiting off exchange with fiat in their banks, ready to come out of the blue and pounce the minute they see the support price drop below the expected "trendline" support price (that's in their head, of course).

Do you *want* it to stay $500's though?... I do.

I think that's the best indicator as to why it will not. Everyone kept talking about wall st getting into the market, well here it is... not as rosy as everyone thought though...

I hate the idea that it might go as low as $100. Its terrifying. I expect everyone else feels the same. Until we reach those levels, then despair truly has not set in.

(Just in case anyone thinks I have turned bear, I haven't. Still HODLing! Still Buying...)
1882  Economy / Speculation / Re: poll: crash or rally when deposits enabled at gox? on: February 18, 2014, 04:30:30 PM
All exchanges to about $400. Then slow grind down for a while.
1883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Flash Crash Buy Orders. on: February 18, 2014, 03:30:14 PM
I agree. Slow grind down, probably $100-$150 because thats where people will really feel they are doomed.

It feels bad now. It will feel worse then. Buying all the way down again, never spending what I can't afford to lose... same old... (sick feeling)
1884  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt. Gox - To resume withdrawals Feb 20th - New ATH approaching on: February 18, 2014, 03:17:38 PM
Smiley okay, i understand your intentions.
BTC withdrawls might however be enabled(limited? ) or however. I just donīt believe that one can use the situation to profit.
Please keep me up to date if they credit your account before the gap closes(in whichever direction). I reckon that deposits might somehow be a bit delayed at the moment... Wink
But thatīs just one of many Gox  theories right now.  Wink

money has finally reached gox account - picked up a few coins at €220. left a bit lying around in case we go further down... now we wait.
1885  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull vs. Bear on: February 17, 2014, 06:09:25 PM
I'm interested in bitcoin, could you explain to me how you find out where I might sign up to a forum where people talk about it?
You just sent fiat to Gox. Being flippant just makes you look like an asshole now, we already know how dumb you are.

Sending money to gox has nothing to do with me looking like an asshole. That comes naturally. Looks like you still need practice.
1886  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull vs. Bear on: February 17, 2014, 04:01:01 PM
thank you all for clearing this up.

MY PLEASURE! Cheesy
1887  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt. Gox - To resume withdrawals Feb 20th - New ATH approaching on: February 17, 2014, 03:59:36 PM
It's been 72hours since I sent my urgent SEPA transfer (which guarantees same day from my bank - and shows same day when i do this to bitstamp) and it still isn't showing on my gox account. I'm inclined to agree that I will miss the window, and price will have normalised before I get chance to get a few discount coins.

ho hum.

Why oh why did you send money over there?Huh Did you also sent BTC to Gox in the last weeks when the price over there was +20% ?
Itīs a trap, you will get fooled. I hope not so.

I sent cash because i believe that the issue over btc withdrawal will be resolved in due course, and it looked like an opportunity to buy at a discount.

I didn't send coins when it was selling at a premium, because I think resolving the issues over fiat withdrawals was a much tougher nut to crack for gox as it relied in the co-operation of 2rd parties in the traditional banking system. A much different issue.

Fixing btc withdrawal is just a matter of them re-enabling it in their software.

It's not that I don't participate in groupthink, but that I try to recognise when doing so is detrimental. YMMV. I think gox are mildly incompetent. I don't think they are intentionally committing fraud.

I might be wrong about the whole thing, it might be a big mistake, but I'm clear about why I'm doing what the risk is in my view, and what the potential reward is.

1888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt. Gox - To resume withdrawals Feb 20th - New ATH approaching on: February 17, 2014, 03:44:50 PM
It's been 72hours since I sent my urgent SEPA transfer (which guarantees same day from my bank - and shows same day when i do this to bitstamp) and it still isn't showing on my gox account. I'm inclined to agree that I will miss the window, and price will have normalised before I get chance to get a few discount coins.

ho hum.
1889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt. Gox - To resume withdrawals Feb 20th - New ATH approaching on: February 17, 2014, 03:39:45 PM
Classic bitcoiner boom or bust mentality.

I think in truth it will be much more boring. At the point we return to 'business as usual' the gap between gox and other exchanges will just close naturally as arbatrigeurs get involved. depending on the volume at the respective exchanges will depend on whether its closer to the $350 of gox or the ~$650 elsewhere.

More than likely it will be in the middle somewhere around $500.

That will be about as exciting as it gets.
+1 but you will admit that Gox is not goin anywhere with their customers BTC or Fiat?

My personal opinion, again leans towards the mundane. Nothing 'bad' will happen, withdrawals will resume, business as usual.

It's not a popular opinion (see the recent sell off), but that's all I got Wink
1890  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull vs. Bear on: February 17, 2014, 03:37:30 PM
I'm interested in bitcoin, could you explain to me how you find out where I might sign up to a forum where people talk about it?

yeah, sure, there's this forum called bitcointalk.org, you can register and then ask questions about how you can register.
If you don't know how to get to bitcointalk.org, try typing in bitcointalk.org in your browser and register to check out the help section.


0 POOTS, Needs more irony.
1891  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull vs. Bear on: February 17, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
I'm interested in bitcoin, could you explain to me how you find out where I might sign up to a forum where people talk about it?
1892  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt. Gox - To resume withdrawals Feb 20th - New ATH approaching on: February 17, 2014, 03:29:44 PM
Classic bitcoiner boom or bust mentality.

I think in truth it will be much more boring. At the point we return to 'business as usual' the gap between gox and other exchanges will just close naturally as arbatrigeurs get involved. depending on the volume at the respective exchanges will depend on whether its closer to the $350 of gox or the ~$650 elsewhere.

More than likely it will be in the middle somewhere around $500.

That will be about as exciting as it gets.
1893  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is bitcoin falling down? on: February 15, 2014, 02:51:09 AM
Snowballing negative sentiment fuelled by the fear over malleability.

Lots of people think mtgox is no better than bitcoinica, or maybe even pirate!

I think the truth is likely far more mundane, but for now nobody knows, and whilst we wait, people act on what they believe...
1894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Transferring 25k into Gox to buy at current prices on: February 15, 2014, 02:47:18 AM
It's the Lloyd's reinsurance-to-close scam, writ small.

So, in short, you are saying wire it all directly to gox Wink

No, I'm saying that if gox folds you will get screwed either way.

Essentially you're betting the goxbtc-price goes up a lot before gox implodes.  I suppose the difference is that with the CFD you get to make the bet each month and exit with a small loss if neither of these happened -- instead of being locked in until one does.

But it's still the same bet.

If gox implodes I'm pretty certain a lot of CFD customers will get screwed, and the financial regulators will not care.

I merely joke. I know either way its a risky bet, fwiw I've taken it on (or at least I will when karpeles finishes his latte and sets about crediting my account), but not quite for $25k Smiley
1895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Transferring 25k into Gox to buy at current prices on: February 15, 2014, 02:21:05 AM
I would rather open an account with either AvaTrade or Plus500 and go long on the GoxBTC/GoxUSD currency pair. There is a good chance that this trade can be profitable, and one can then get the USD out and trade then for BTC at market through an exchange that is working.

First of all, kudos to you for understanding counterparty risk.

However, I don't think this will work.  I checked out both AvaTrade and Plus500 and they close all bitcoin positions monthly, on the same day of the month for all accounts, which almost certainly means that they are putting in a wire transfer request to gox once a month.  If that wire doesn't come back and not enough customers show up in the first week-or-so of next month to offset, they will proceed to screw the previous month's customers for the balance, appealing to force majeure.  I'm pretty sure their risk management strategy here is to pipeline the whole thing and then drag their feet on withdrawals if the pipeline dries up while gox is in no-wire-transfer mode.

It's the Lloyd's reinsurance-to-close scam, writ small.

So, in short, you are saying wire it all directly to gox Wink
1896  Economy / Speculation / Re: does this transaction mean mtgox is able to withdraw btc? on: February 15, 2014, 02:18:30 AM
excluding the prev out hashes.... this is what i was getting before... nothing found....

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1897  Economy / Speculation / Re: does this transaction mean mtgox is able to withdraw btc? on: February 15, 2014, 02:14:16 AM
my bad. I've included the 'prev out' hashes. I'll get my coat...
1898  Economy / Speculation / Re: does this transaction mean mtgox is able to withdraw btc? on: February 15, 2014, 02:02:41 AM
apparently i got unlucky. there are indeed matches.

as for what it means... I don't know Smiley
1899  Economy / Speculation / Re: does this transaction mean mtgox is able to withdraw btc? on: February 15, 2014, 01:56:57 AM
here is a snapshot of the output of that file, I grep'd for just the 'hash' entries and removed whitespace. Have at it.

Code:
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"hash":"fd2c03a28f16bc477987d4f5fc87b5b3452d3dcb3521fd9b8471f23d990c5472",
"hash":"fda020a38ded4e258c488ed0e2619d97609e6ab2cf3ed3bfaa4ca6aec0ee3e6e",
"hash":"fde7808f99c47850f17cdc1bf1ade93c822bfafa5238c33729d0b4cfa2c2821d",
"hash":"fe299e14d4b088133d2d4ce9e24b70a37c209c636cc2905315062e0d58222751",
"hash":"ff46d2c6ab2f44a569245ebebe0ad3f46a8b167adb1161d009ae07f8105a7a86",

edit: sorted & removed dups
1900  Economy / Speculation / Re: does this transaction mean mtgox is able to withdraw btc? on: February 15, 2014, 01:51:24 AM
that transaction 008da9ec61b99fbaae5674a8c88e79827fcf2d9b8da120c35819c55f48be4d7b doesn't appear to be in the list at  https://data.mtgox.com/api/0/bitcoin_tx.php

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what do the API do? there were all "unconfirmed pending" TXs?
because the tx has been confirmed. the api no longer to show it.

I thought that, so i searched several other transaction hashes on blockchain.info and would you believe it none of them could be found!
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