Do they all run under the same worker?  Vardiff is by worker if I hadn't made that clear as of yet.

So Gigavps and anyone else:  Did we ever decide on what a good share target was?  20?  24?

Hmm, I'm thinking scammer tag might be warranted here.  I wasn't really going to advocate for that, but given the ops reluctance honor the agreement he made with his miners when he started the pool and now his inability or unwillingness to provide any sort of "proof" for this hopper proof method smells like a giant scam at this point.  I wonder if we solved a block and he pocketed the 50 coins now.  I didn't bother looking at the blockchain around that time... may be worth investigating.

In either case, he's scammed me out of 1.3 millions shares at this point, possibly even ~50 BTC.

There is no way I am mining on a pool who's operator is an admitted thief, you have got to be kidding, right?

No, you can not make changes in the middle of a round if you expect people to trust you.  You offered a pool with a set of parameters which I agreed to mine on.  If you want to change your parameters, you wait until AFTER the round is over.  You don't change it after I've already given you my hashes.

What's to stop you from doing that to others in the future?  Nothing, because you have no integrity.  You've demonstrated the fact that you can and will take away users shares for any reason you see fit and not pay them for it.   You have zero integrity at this point and you continue to compound your problem.  You will never have a successful pool with that sort of mind set.

You made the drama for yourself by stealing shares.  You were told not to run a prop pool from the start, but you went ahead and did it anyway because you thought you knew better.

Now, when you finally realize you have no idea what you're doing, you switch mid round and steal all the work because of a mistake YOU made, which people tried repeatedly to enlighten you about and you refused to listen.  That's two mistakes you made and you are trying to blame the users?  Really?

Good luck man, your pool will never succeed if you steal from your users like that. 

I'm sorry, no, it doesn't work like that.  I mined on a prop pool, not a hop proof pool.  I told you from the start:


You just did it.  You can not be trusted.  Plain and simple.  Basically, this shows that if you ever run into a problem of your own making, you will penalize the users, not suck it up yourself.  All the top pools have run into problems at some point or another, and you know what they all have in common:  The operators accepted responsibility for the mistake and did not pass it along to the users.  The ones that failed to do this are no longer around.

Yep, something like that, and the difficulty was lower then, too... so I'm not sure what the PPS rate was, but I could look it up.

So you want people to mine on your pool by stealing their hashing power?  Good luck with that.  Your pool is 100% fail from the start.

Theft of resources is unacceptable under any circumstance.  Anyone mining on this pool will know that at any time you, the operator, will take their shares and BTC at will.  You are basically admitting to being a thief now.

You, Greee, have now admitted to stealing 43% of the shares submitted to your pool. (Well, you've actually stolen 100% of the shares, but we won't quibble)

Umm, what happened to the round shares?  They are at 0 and you don't have any solved blocks.

Dear sir, could you please point me to your wonderful FPGA mining product so that I may purchase it?  What's that?  You don't have one?  Your only talent is being an idiot?  Oh I'm sorry, here:

Please provide citations or stop spreading yet more misinformation.  This is why the forums are useless.  You make statements that you have absolutely no basis in reality to make.


And this is why no amount of information will satisfy anyone.  Over 1000 posts and a number of articles disclosing the information we are ready to disclose and its' "nothing" ..  Whatever.  You guys just go right on wearing those tinfoil hats.

N = NP ?  Na...

We already have that: https://portal.butterflylabs.com

I'm going to have to go over the numbers again.  I was trying to factor in the administrative hold back on the shares and I may have screwed that up.

For simplicity sake, maybe we should just stick with 1:1 and I will make up the difference from my personal holdings as required. 

The boards have always had an 8 chip capacity.  That has never changed from day one.


This is what I'm talking about.  I just posted in this very thread, a few posts up but you chose to ignore it:

There is no complete disclosure at this time.  There is far too much at stake to give full disclosure.  In ANY OTHER INDUSTRY this is perfectly normal.  The only "industry" that it is not considered "normal" is this twisted version of reality that's called BitcoinTalk.  I am really sorry that you don't get full disclosure, but when it could mean the difference between being successful and failure, you're not going to get it.  When it no longer matters who knows what information, you'll get that information, but until that time, it would be suicidal to give "full disclosure."  Why would we invest so much money just to give a recipe/how-to book to the competition?  Why?  Seriously, answer me that.  Why would we do that?  What financial/business sense does that make under any circumstance?

Our board has always had 8 chips (or space for 8, depending on the product).  That has not changed.  Your tinfoil hat bullshit is wearing thin.

You are a perfect example of why people are never happy.  "Tell us everything you do as you're doing it."  

So we do.  "Oh shit you are lying because they are eBay pictures!"

Don't tell us until it's actually ready.  "Oh shit!  You are lying because if you actually were making these things, you'd show us where you're at right now!"

Heh.  Thanks for illustrating my point so nicely.

Yep, you're welcome to redeem them for physical hardware at any time.

Sorry, you can email me at: admin@eclipsemc.com

I am transferring data to a new DC right now.. but it's going to take a very long time, it's a slow link and there's lots of data.  Hopefully US1 will not have any more issues for awhile. 

See that's the thing, most industries don't even provide information. We provide some and somehow it's "shady."  Whatever.

You'd be bitching and moaning if it didn't provide the information.  You're bitching and moaning because we do provide the information.  No win all the way around.