Quanttek will be doing German and David Latapie French. Monero will be soon be very international.  Chinese translation will be one of the most important. If anyone can offer to do a high-quality one (or knows someone that can), that would be great. Those who want to translate the website: PM me. Do not start with the "getting started" page as it is the one most prone to heavy changes, though. |
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I think it may be DARKCOIN! It may take 1 yr or 2. Blackcoin said the same thing not so long ago (I once believe it could, because of PoS). Maybe NEM, maybe Sharecoin. Maybe Monero. But certainly not Darkcoin (because Monero is better at everything Darkcoin is doing and Zerocash might be even better for the anonimity part). And two more reason why darkcoin won't replace BTC: first because such a name is an invitation for public refusal and because tracability is required in a lot of things (like public spending), so an anonymous crypto would not replace a traceable crypto. what is NEM? NXT done better. Fairer distribution, more features. It has not been released yet, some stakes will be auctionned since the initial several-weeks IPO is over. The "market cap" of the top 100 alts together are not even close (<10%, and from this 10% LTC takes 5%) of the BTC market cap. Apart from NXT (and it's clones) none of them offers any significant improvement over bitcoin. You forgot about Cryptnote-based coins (Bytecoin, Bitmonero, Monero and HoneyPenny and probably much much for in the future since Cryptonote is so much open-ended). Plus, NEM is not a NXT clone, even though its initial goal was to be a relaunch with fairer distribution (I can't talk for the other NXT "clones"). None of the alts have any significant real world services (you can't even buy a single banana or a gallon of petrol for DRK). Until an alt doesn't have good services - good means services what you need in you daily routine - all of the stuff above are just dreaming. Agree. The financial world seems to forget that primary use of a coin is not to make them rich, but to be used by the 99,98% of the population that is actually doing something useful. |
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only trust coins we compile ourselves that come from reputable repos. If you don't read the code you compile it doesn't change a thing. I do not read the code I compile, most people don't read the code they compile. Most people (me included) expect someone will do it. Scammers know all too well these facts. Open source gives a false feeling of security. Openess is worth nothing if it is not checked. That's why open source software is secure ONLY if it is popular. And no altcoin less than 3 months old is popular enough (and 3 month old is very optimistic); |
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A quick count shows about 400,000+ lines of code in Bitcoin 0.9.1!
Checking a code base like this is a highly nontrivial task. 400k lines of code is not much. Code auditing is not done by hand anymore, except in rare occasions (like FreeBSD audit) |
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Someone should send a nice email to mintpal and cryptsy so they can add monero for voting Smiley If noone does i will in a couple of days. I could have done it weeks ago (from day 2 I considered it). Then I decided not to, because too fast a rise could kill monero. Let it go slowly, it is better for everyone. Slow adoption, wider distribution, better future. Please don't kill the golden goose. Where are the 0.8.6 Windows binaries? And what is the current block? I'm still downloading (at block 24K or so now) and would like to know how much longer this will take. LOL
Also, do you have to be fully synced up to start mining? I tried "start_mining 6" on my Core i7-4702MQ laptop; hashrate is showing 0.18~0.25 and CPU usage only appears to be one core (13%). Linux binaries for 0.8.6 + boost (you might still need libicu48 / libicuuc on /usr/lib, though, on Linux) https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B7RQILpPGrQbYnF2OTA4NklrWmcGo to the OP and download the blockchain, it will be faster than to manually sync. http://monero.cc/getting-started has the instructions. Yes, they are tedious, yes, you'll have to follow them carefully, yes even that way it might not work. |
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Oups, je ne sais pas pourquoi je ne recevais pas les notifications. Donc réponse groupée : - Botnet : je ne sais pas, mais en tout cas, Amazon EC2 doit être bien utilisée. Je connais au moins une personne qui a fait x3 en un week-end (c'était il y a une semaine, depuis elle ne peut plus).
- Comment que ça marche : http://monero.cc a été pas mal mis à jour. Il reste encore beaucoup de boulot. Si vous êtes sur Arch ou Manjaro, récupérez les binaires Ubuntu.
- daemon is busy : oui, c'est très chiant, faut laisser allumé tout le temps. Tacotime vient de sortir le 0.8.6, qui est censé régler le problème (je n'ai pas encore eu le temps de vérifier)
alors, ça mine ? pour vérifier, regardez un moniteur de CPU (top en ligne de commande sur Unix). Pour miner avec tout, utilisez ./bitmonerod <number_of_threads> (bitmonero.exe sous Windows). Number of threads, c'est nbre de CPU (généralement 1) * nbre de core * 2 (hyperthread). Sous Unix, c'est la ligne de commande nproc. Sous Windows, il doit y avoir des tas d'utilitaires pour ça. - Binaire : je viens de mettre les derniers binaires Linux (libboost et monero). Pour Windows, c'est de base des binaires, donc c'est surtout utile pour ceux qui ont du mal à compiler (comme moi qui suis sous Manjaro ou sous des VPS sous-alimentés) monero starter_pack. boot, c'est dans /usr/lib et monero c'est où vous voulez (du moment que le wallet et sa clé se trouvent dans le même répertoire)
Vente : système d'escrow par tacotime ou smooth, vous pouvez y aller les yeux fermés (1%). Pour info, le MRO se négocie à 100k sat an max, 36500 sat en médian et 43k en moyenne - Ca marche pas ! 1) allez sur monero.cc et suivez les instructions 2) allez sur IRC (#monero sur freenode) et parlez à tacotime, smooth, NoodleDoode, eizh ou moi 3) contactez-moi en MP.
- Pool : une ce weekend et une autre en prévision par Taco, mais sans date.
- Créateur de monero : non, ce n'est pas le créateur de Bytecoin (enfin, je ne pense pas, vu qu'on ne sait rien d'eux). Le créateur de monero a fait un caca nerveux, insiste pour du merge mining et du coup scission entre thankful_for_today (le créateur) et taco and co (and me). tft va hardforker monero en bitmonero (le nom d'origine qui était censé disparaître mais qui va revenir sous forme de fork). Pour le moment, vos monero sont aussi des bitmonero. Au moment du fork, il vous faudra choisir votre camp. Mon avis, bien que très partial est que vous feriez mieux de rester sur monero, les dév sont autrement plus efficaces (les plantages d'il y a quelques jours, c'est l'équipe de bitmonero qui testait en production ! ça donne une idée du niveau).
- RAM : je mine avec 256 Mo de RAM (enfin, jusqu'à ce que je sois banni pour abus de CPU). Tu n'as besoin de davantage de RAM que pour la compilation. Si tu passes par les binaires sus-mentionnés, pas de problème.
- show_hr : oui, il faut taper à l'arrache, c'est naze. Comme le fait qu'on ne peut pas rappeler une commande dans le wallet, comme dans tout bon Unix (on a l'impression de revenir sous DOS, où il faut taper les commandes en entier et à chaque fois). Sachez que hide_hr fonctionne aussi, même si personne n'en parle.
- GUI : il y a un bounty pour une interface graphique.
- anonymat : non, il n'y a rien d'aussi anonyme que monero (à part bytecoin). Pour l'anecdote, nous parlions au début de "privacy" parce que MRO n'est pas anonyme (même le livre blanc de CryptoNote le dit) mais comme tout le monde parle faussement d'anonymat, on a décidé d'en faire autant . Cependant, de toutes les crypto, MRO (avec Bytecoin) est la plus anonyme. Même le créateur de Darkcoin a été épaté (il envisage peut-être la signature en anneau pour "DRK2"). La seule crypto potentiellement plus anonyme, c'est Zerocash, mais c'est tellement expérimental que ça pourrait bien être cassé.
- BTC vs MRO : complémentarité, pas compétition. Dans des tas de domaines, tu veux savoir "où va l'argent" (fond public, dons...) et tu as besoin de traçabilité. MRO est le concurrent de DRK, pas de BTC.
- MRO facile à miner : non, MRO n'est pas facile à miner. Enfin, si, elle l'est dans le sens qu'il n'y a pas à acheter une carte graphique à des centaines d'euros et configurer des commandes abconces ou refuser d'avoir une machine qui chante à tue-tête. Mais sinon le succès est là et le résultat, c'est qu'on en a pas beaucoup. C'est un monnaie rare et en plus sa courbe de progression relativement plate (vous n'étiez pas là les deux premiers jours quand on a dû diviser par deux les montants du fait d'un bug) fait que les early adopters sont moins avantagés - et ce n'est pas plus mal.
- MRO clonée : tout à fait possible. Cependant, nous regardons déjà ce qui se fait ailleurs (HoneyPenny) et nous avons bien l'intention d'intégrer certaines des innovations proposées. Avoir un code d'excellente qualité (par rapport au code très crade de Bitcoin, demandez au créateur de Cryptonote ou de NXT) et en plus des dév compétents, présents et qui ont de la bouteille (CPU-mining de LTC, anyone?), ça aide.
- Minergate: Apparu subitement quelque jours après la sortie de monero, nickel dès le début et 10 % de taxes (non, je n'ai pas fait d'erreur). Cherchez l'erreur.
- Mathusalem: je renvois aux remarques de supperresistant sur bitcoin. Ainsi qu'au livre blanc de Cryptnote. Vous verrez qu'il y a bien plus que les ring signatures - c'est aussi pour ça que cette crypto peut aller très loin.
- Combien je peux miner : allez sur #monero et tapez !nmrcalc 22 (si votre hashrate est de 22).
Voilà |
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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Hi, the current source code on github does not compile on archlinux. [ 61%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/connectivity_tool.dir/connectivity_tool/conn_tool.cpp.o
Linking CXX executable performance_tests
/usr/bin/ld: ../src/libcryptonote_core.a(cryptonote_format_utils.cpp.o): undefined reference to symbol 'pthread_mutexattr_settype@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
collect2: Fehler: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zurück
tests/CMakeFiles/performance_tests.dir/build.make:100: recipe for target 'tests/performance_tests' failed
make[3]: *** [tests/performance_tests] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/afri/opt/bitmonero/build/debug'
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:896: recipe for target 'tests/CMakeFiles/performance_tests.dir/all' failed
make[2]: *** [tests/CMakeFiles/performance_tests.dir/all] Error 2
make[2]: *** Warte auf noch nicht beendete Prozesse... $ gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 4.9.0
$ cmake --version
cmake version 2.8.12.2
$ pacman -Ss boost
extra/boost 1.55.0-6 [Installiert]
Free peer-reviewed portable C++ source libraries - Development
extra/boost-libs 1.55.0-6 [Installiert]
Free peer-reviewed portable C++ source libraries - Runtime Any idea? -lpthread is missing, see https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/1Thank you, merged into main. With new code, I still have errors. After I hit make; Scanning dependencies of target connectivity_tool
make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/david/monero/bitmonero/build/release'
make[3]: Entering directory '/home/david/monero/bitmonero/build/release'
[ 46%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/connectivity_tool.dir/connectivity_tool/conn_tool.cpp.o
Linking CXX executable connectivity_tool
/usr/bin/ld: /tmp/cc2yTihO.ltrans3.ltrans.o: référence au symbole non défini «pthread_mutexattr_settype@@GLIBC_2.2.5»
/usr/lib/libpthread.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
collect2: erreur: ld a retourné 1 code d'état d'exécution
src/CMakeFiles/connectivity_tool.dir/build.make:100: recipe for target 'src/connectivity_tool' failed
make[3]: *** [src/connectivity_tool] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/david/monero/bitmonero/build/release'
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:231: recipe for target 'src/CMakeFiles/connectivity_tool.dir/all' failed
make[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/connectivity_tool.dir/all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/david/monero/bitmonero/build/release'
Makefile:126: recipe for target 'all' failed
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/david/monero/bitmonero/build/release'
Makefile:20: recipe for target 'build-release' failed
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I'm on Xubuntu 13.10
I compiled without specifying # of threads, but I am actively mining with 8 threads.
Since I didn't specify number of threads when compiling, will there be a detrimental effect?
I have Dual Xeon 5160's at 3Ghz and am getting 14H/s when using all cores. Yes. You only mine with one core Use the "top" command on a terminal, it should give you 99% CPU instead of around 799%. |
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Wow, I can only hope the linux code will somehow benefit from whatever Noodle did with the Windows code. I've got 4x Opterons that went from 2.8947 H/s to 5.000 H/s when I moved it from Ubuntu to Windows. My E5 box with Ubuntu is doing 5.4 H/s, but I can't swap OS's on it. Both are VPS.
+1 Please updade linux wallet to match windows performance. It is weird to have a faster windows than linux ! That's the other way around. Windows was twice slover. It is now on par with Linux. |
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Hi, the current source code on github does not compile on archlinux. [ 61%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/connectivity_tool.dir/connectivity_tool/conn_tool.cpp.o
Linking CXX executable performance_tests
/usr/bin/ld: ../src/libcryptonote_core.a(cryptonote_format_utils.cpp.o): undefined reference to symbol 'pthread_mutexattr_settype@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
collect2: Fehler: ld gab 1 als Ende-Status zurück
tests/CMakeFiles/performance_tests.dir/build.make:100: recipe for target 'tests/performance_tests' failed
make[3]: *** [tests/performance_tests] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/afri/opt/bitmonero/build/debug'
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:896: recipe for target 'tests/CMakeFiles/performance_tests.dir/all' failed
make[2]: *** [tests/CMakeFiles/performance_tests.dir/all] Error 2
make[2]: *** Warte auf noch nicht beendete Prozesse... $ gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 4.9.0
$ cmake --version
cmake version 2.8.12.2
$ pacman -Ss boost
extra/boost 1.55.0-6 [Installiert]
Free peer-reviewed portable C++ source libraries - Development
extra/boost-libs 1.55.0-6 [Installiert]
Free peer-reviewed portable C++ source libraries - Runtime Any idea? Finally someone on Arch! I have the same problem, I resorted to use tacotime binaries for Ubuntu. They worked fine, but maybe are suboptimal. I compiled fooost too. I will send you my tutorial (I am on Manjaro). Terminal 1
1. [TERM1] Login to the machine
ssh root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
2. [TERM1] Create user <user> and give it root access
adduser <user> && adduser <user> sudo
3. [TERM1] Login as him
su <user>
4. [TERM1] Create "monero" and ".bitmonero"
mkdir ~/monero && mkdir ~/.bitmonero
5. [TERM2] upload monero, libboost and blockchain at the right location (add libicu48 or apt-get install libicuuc) to it first
scp ~/MRO/monero/* <user>@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:~/monero && scp ~/MRO/boost/* root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/usr/lib && scp ~/MRO/blockchain/* <user>@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:~/.bitmonero
6. [TERM1] get the number of threads on your machine
nproc
7. [TERM1] launch bitmonerod with the right number of threads and the right address (your address is in bitmonero_wallet.bin.address.txt on the machine you created the wallet)
./bitmonerod --start-mining <address> --mining-threads x
(x being your number of thread, than you can get with the "nproc" command |
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I agree too, this coin seem to have a very interesting business model, I so mad I did not hear about it before.
What I suggest everyone who will buy some (so, it doesn't apply to you):
Sell 10% of your remaining stash every time it doubles its price.
=> after three doublings, you will get your money back
=> it is not 10% of your total (in that case, you would have sell everything after the tenth doubling). It is 10% of what you have left. Ultimately, you will never run out of coins to sell. Well said Please reword, cos I don't get it. Say you bought 65000 Sharecoin for 0.1 BTC. Each Share is forh 153 sat Once Sharecoin hits 306 satoshi (double the price you bought them at), then sell 6500 sharecoin (10% of your stash). You now have 58500 sharecoins. When Sharecoin hit 612 satoshi (doubling again), sell 10% or you remaining stash, that is 5850 sharecoin. You are left with 52650 sharecoins Do the same with Sharecoin hits 1224 satoshi. You sell 5265 sharecoin and are left with 47385 sharecoin So, you spend 0.1 BTC on sharecoins Then you sold 6500 @ 306, 5850 @ 612 and 5265 @ 1224 = 1.989.000+3.580.200+6.444.360=12.013.560= 0.12 BTC In three rounds, you got your money back. From now on, everything is extra money, you don't have to worry about being at a loss anymore. And just continue that way, so you won't have to keep watching the price of sharecoin anymore, this is good for sanity. Donation address coming as soon as I downloaded the wallet |
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I was driven to tears literally as I am crap at this so just downloaded new wallet created folder and now i see my share..WOW thank you..I will do a donation in the form of a giveaway on my blog..I think that way I can introduce it to more peeps and do blog post about sharecoin..What you think? I will get my punters to follow twitter, retweet and reddit etc like fb and give out a few coins.. This way I do a social media campaign on behalf of SHARECOIN..Let me know if that is a good idea for the coin.. I'd be happy to, since I arrived only some hours too late to apply :-( Cool..I will be saving the majority of my SHARECOIN as I would love to be a long term investor and earn from all the other SHARECOIN biz like exchange etc..Peeps selling all their sharecoins now for quick profit will be crying because they will lose out on all those extra benefits..Now i got to go to the gym and eat.. I agree too, this coin seem to have a very interesting business model, I so mad I did not hear about it before. What I suggest everyone who will buy some (so, it doesn't apply to you): Sell 10% of your remaining stash every time it doubles its price. => after three doublings, you will get your money back => it is not 10% of your total (in that case, you would have sell everything after the tenth doubling). It is 10% of what you have left. Ultimately, you will never run out of coins to sell. |
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I was driven to tears literally as I am crap at this so just downloaded new wallet created folder and now i see my share..WOW thank you..I will do a donation in the form of a giveaway on my blog..I think that way I can introduce it to more peeps and do blog post about sharecoin..What you think? I will get my punters to follow twitter, retweet and reddit etc like fb and give out a few coins.. This way I do a social media campaign on behalf of SHARECOIN..Let me know if that is a good idea for the coin.. I'd be happy to, since I arrived only some hours too late to apply :-( |
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Well, I have some pawns than I am bagholding at. I might trade them for sharecoins.
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distribution done? Only the first part. Lots of account still waiting for their share. But registration is over, right? Can we still apply? |
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distribution done? Unfortunately  They should give some "second round" for those who missed the train. I guess it won't happen since it would require this to be done from day one. |
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Is it too late to apply? I think we missed the train I like the distribution idea but they should allow for some more people after a while. Like for instance, a new round every month or every two months. That's an issue with most (if not all) PoS coin and with a lot of PoW coin (especially the one with diminishing returns): you can miss the train. That's why there is always new coins, for those who missed the train. Not a sane thing, if you ask me. |
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I am utterly confused
TFT, please, tell , what thread is the main ? This one is the main thread for bitmonero/BMR (monero/MRO is somewhere else. Until TFT implements merge mining on BMR, bitmonero and monero are the same coin, though. MRO is for the time being a softfork of BMR (please correct me if I am wrong). What the hash rate now? btw, where can I find it by myself ? looking ahead I gonna ask it again unless someone would tell me where and how to get this info
Thanks in advance You can get an estimate of the hashrate on IRC at #monero (freenode) by typing !bmrhash. Thanks a lot for fast answering, mate. Now I know what to do next time I want to know the hr Remember this is an estimation. If you know your own hr, you can use !bmrcalc 2.55 (assuming you have a 2.55 hr), it will give you how many block you will get at current hr. Multiply by 17 to get the number of moneros (strictly speaking, we should speak of moneroj, not moneros, since monero is an esperanto word and that esperanto marks plural by suffixing with a -j). |
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