You surely are an emotional little tulip, Torque.

Your stupid ass silly twat cannot even recognize that I agree with a lot of what you say, except your stupid-ass devolutions into concepts that all of this has been preplanned.  In that regard, I am not asserting that I know everything, but instead that you have some issues with your ideas, and your sensitivities, and desires to campaign against me show more about your own insecurities rather than any kind of solidity in your conspiracy assertions.  So yeah, perhaps, I need to eye roll a little stronger because my substantive points (criticisms of your assertions) don't seem to be sinking in to your flower sensitivities.   

I don't have any problem with Torque's ascribing several conspiratorial whale manipulation factors to bitcoin price dynamics, yet my problem is that he seems to get so caught up in the idea of manipulation and conspiracy that he just drifts off into fantasy land to go to such extreme suggestions that these manipulations were planned years in advance.  Don't get me wrong, Torque says a lot of interesting and informative things but the level of conspiracy just frequently devolves into ridiculousness.

That's what the troll shits like bittarded want.   They want you to become discouraged, and to get caught up on irrelevant, misleading and purely incorrect information.  Don't give them such satisfaction of giving into their framework... like you correctly stated, Torque might be a conspiracy nutjob, from time to time, but he surely is no average joe, nor uninformed in the crypto space.



No explanation needed you fucktard.... I mean bittarded.

Yep!!!!  This was all pre-planned from a year ago and perhaps two years.  There are whale manipulators who  knew these details all along.   I knew it.   

Oh go figure.  The making shit up bittarded is "the adult" in this particular room.  Who wudda thunk?

Snap out of it, Tera.


The term Gox is being used in a different sense than the one you are describing.

No... but I understand that is one of the stupid-ass simplified mainstream talking point explanations..... so I would not want to feel retarded by buying into retarded ideas.   

I will be calling that merit begging.. you fuck...    perhaps not "excessive begging" but makes you ineligible to receive merit from me, at least in the short term.   ... and if you reform your merit begging ways, then I may reconsider the possibility of giving your merit.. perhaps?, somewhere down the road.. several months later...  

 But likely no one is going to get any merit from me, personally, unless I see something that stimulates me into wanting to give merit..... For example, provide some interesting content.. share some interesting ideas.. add a little humor... or other kind of insight that causes me to learn about the world or about bitcoin or some other pertinent part of my then expected life...  

Do you realize, you seemingly dimwitted trolljob, that there has been a price battle in bitcoin that has been going on for several years now, and it has periods of greater intensity.

Furthermore, with s-curve adoption, there are going to be a large number of price finding attempts at various points, which just means both up and down volatility.. while at the same time upwards price appreciation, that is still manipulated down from time to time, even while the price is largely heading exponentially upwards...

Hopefully, you are smart enough to both get paid in bitcoin for your stupid-ass trolling job, and not to really buy into the bullshit that you are propagating because you really cannot believe the nonsense that you are attempting to spread, can you?

All fine and dandy to have various altcoins serving as testbeds for the various technological and practical concepts of microtransactions, anonymity, smart contracts, etc.. but bitcoin can do all of that, too, no?

How would you know what is normal or not?  Are you distractedly referring to my avatar again?  GET A FUCKING GRIP... trolltard, I mean, Jacques Bittard, retard....

Everything that you say makes sense, except for your seemingly nonsensical assertion about "cutting losses"... that seems stupid, from my perspective.

Why would anyone sell based on if there is uncertainty about the price going down, instead of just preparing to buy if the price goes lower?  In other words, if you were going to sell, you should have already sold ... but I know peeps like to wait until they see down movement and then sell, which seems to be very risky for causing selling towards the bottom rather than the opposite of buying as it goes down.

Anyhow, just a differing approach, I suppose... so I won't harp on your point, here, too much.    for now... 

Explain ur selfie roachie poachie.

What makes me a BIG pig, exactly?   

Don't I have a sustainable strategy that involves accumulation of BTC by buying when the price goes down and selling when the price goes up?  Is there something greedy about that?

Am I not gambling on every little turn of the BTC price by attempting to bet everything in one direction or another, but instead I am employing, incrementalism in my buy/sell approach, no?

Are you dissing me, because I don't buy into your more, supposedly conservative, PM point of view that actually doesn't really seem to hold value too well?

It seems that I don't follow your specific "knowledgeable" writings enough in order to understand how you would be arriving at your seemingly nonsensical conclusion to classify me as a kind of BIG pig within the subject matter of this thread.  Explain ur selfie.

Maybe you are saying this wrong?

Surely, there is a certain dynamic in which surely bitcoin is the leader, but still bitcoin seems to have some trouble recovering in part because there seems to be some need to shake some of these snot-nosed 13 year olds.... so if weak hands are being shook in the alts - including ETH.. then bitcoin is drug down a bit with them... even while bitcoin remains the pillar of fundamentals.. .. so yeah.... how far will bitcoin be drug down in this quagmire?  Will ETH find a bottom that is in the triple digits... or does it have to go lower..?  If ETH goes that low, will it drag bitcoin down with it too, somewhat?   

At some point bitcoin is likely to recover based on fundamentals, but many of the shit coin scams may bounce back with it, unless the pain of this particular correction is more harsh and enduring upon those shit coins.

@Save the RF:  You have a tendency to devolve into a kind of non-comprehension.  Look in the mirror to confirm whether you are bot, or no?   

Surely, bigger blocks are not seeming to be in the cards for bitcoin.... so BIG block nutjobs can whine all that they want about what they believe to be in bitcoin's future - when something like BIG blocks seems to amount to a kind of distracting and not justifiable fantasy.  Segwit and lightning, is likely going to be bitcoin's short term (perhaps several years into the future path forward, and is going to be built upon, and seems to be little to no need for BIGGER blocks at the time being or even in the foreseeable future.).  Bitcoin's price will do whatever it is going to do... which is likely going to continue to go up.





Perhaps, there will be some other coins used for smaller transactions, but there no real reason that bitcoin will not evolve in that direction..... We also still have fiat and credit cards, and I don't mind spending my fiat or using my credit cards for some of those purposes, for the time being.  Of course, bitcoin's use and adoption is likely to take quite a few years, so you may be correct that at least in the shorter term, there may be more of a tendency to use bitcoin as a form of store of value... especially when we still seem to have less than about .5% or world adoption, even if there may be some community pockets that have higher adoption - maybe 1-5% in some areas that are more in the crypto space (maybe tech geeks or something?).


What time frame are you talking about?  Currently miners seem to be incentivized to reap some of the mining reward, but maybe after a few more halvenings, the incentives will move more in the direction of fees... but it seems that currently the 12.5 coins per block seem to be a decent incentive for a lot of them.


What makes you think noobs want bigger blocks?  Noobs don't know what the fuck they want, except perhaps an investment that holds value, appreciates in value and maybe provides some various other kinds of control over your money utility.


What the fuck you talking about?  Did you fall down and bump your head in bcash landia?  This is bitcoin, helrow?   Have you noticed in the past couple of months that fees have been dropping to nearly nothing and you can get transactions processed for nearly free?  There are miners, who are apparently processing a large number of low fee transactions, especially in recent couple of months.  In recent weeks (and maybe even more than a month now), I have sent several transactions in the 1 satoshi per byte territory and less than 10 satoshis per byte, and those transactions processed quickly... less than an hour in almost all cases... many of my transactions had three confirmations in less than 30 minutes... So yeah, there may be some questions about whether those fast processing times and low fees can keep up during spamming attacks, which likely are going to come again, at some point or another, no?

You noticed that PeterR has not shown his smug Bcash shill nutjob avatar in recent times?  Maybe he is still recovering from the shock of bullshit that he had to absorb over the weekend?  Truly Traumatized to the extent that PeterR may actually be a real peep?   

It's not going to stop them.  They did not have much of an argument last year either (either facts nor logice), but they beat the BIG BLOCKER nutjob arguments of high fees and slow speeds, to death... repeatedly.



Look above^^^^^^^^... exhibit A  ^^^^^^^^





Look above^^^^^^^^... exhibit B ^^^^^^^^

That remains part of the BIG QUESTIONs in this space - the extent to which the multiple scammers, pump & dumps, Alts and ICOs are going to keep BTC from pumping again...... will we get one more pump of BTC (along with the various alt shitcoins)
with a more convincing blow-off top before getting the longer drawn out correction that will purge a larger number of those shitcoins?

I am sure no one thought about the pacman7331 perspective.

Edibles or smokes?