I think these sorts of cases will be very rare, but they will probably work themselves out. As vod said, exclusions can be made for people who are no longer active, but maybe even theymos could step in with the rare cases where someone has died and the issue has been resolved and the feedback can be removed by him if it's silly removing someone just for one feedback, but like I said, it can still be done by current default trust members if the community deems it important enough.


People can be forgiven. DT members are added and removed and that can affect a user positively or negatively.

Frank Lampard has always been the bookies favourite for the first manager to be sacked and it wouldn't surprise me if he was. I know it's only the first game and against United but that job is too big for him and far too soon. He should have stuck it out with Derby for another season or so and try to get them promoted. Then try move up. I really wasn't expecting Man U to turn them over like that so went with a draw.  Still finished in first place but only by 0.5 point lead  .

Well I tend to agree. It's just pretty much every configuration of will bitcoin go to x y or z, but lets be honest, the fiat value of bitcoin is probably the biggest factor on why people are interested in bitcoin these days and as long as bitcoin is around people are going to be discussing the price of it.


It won't stop but it will significantly decrease. As long as bitcoin has been around people will discuss the price regardless of signature campaign or not. I think many campaigns don't even pay for posts in there either.


People just want some reassurance. I see it all the time with gamblers. I'm forever seeing twitchy gamblers asking people if they think x team will win or score more than x amount of goals because if they see someone else say what they want to hear it gives them some confidence and faux-reassurance that they're not throwing their money away. Same goes with bitcoin. Some people get a lot more excited when they hear some celebrity or C list amateur economist or investor say bitcoin is going to go to 100k or one million. I mean, it's meaningless because it doesn't actually mean anything but it still gives people that hope for the future that they want.

Sign who and who do they replace? They've already got one of the best squads in the world. It's not like they probably didn't try either. Teams can't get anyone they want and there's not much point in taking just whoever they can get. It's not as easy as just signing a superstar as not many will want to go to Liverpool if they're going to be benched (and if they're going to start who do they replace from their already very strong team? Liverpool don't really have any weak links imo). Also, Spurs did pretty good last season without any signings (if I remember correctly) and finished fourth, one point behind Chelsea. Liverpool just need to keep doing what they're doing and hope they can do it better than City or hope some other teams take away some points from them.


It will have 0.1 in it once the sponsorship money comes in. First game is tonight so if anyone wants to join you don't have long left. Only 0.0025 to play and all money is split between the top 5 winners.

Seems like it would be a faff to enforce. Noticed this user today who's posts are 100% in the Press section posting articles to www.visionary-finance.com without any further comment

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2648997     goozij20

Many of the articles are also just about blockchain and not bitcoin-related.

So you don't believe in freedom of speech for bots or scammers? One rule for you and one rule for them? Surely scammers should have the freedom to scam?



It was made by someone who obviously understands freedom of speech. Here's another one for you:





It's not the mods job to ignore users. It's their job to enforce the rules and handle reports, which there are many that come in against you. 



Weed. He's a self-admitted troll but he probably has mental issues as well. Either way I wouldn't entertain him.


Bingo. As Lucious just said, he's one of those people who wants to make his own rules and yet doesn't understand why they're banned and this isn't the only place he's been banned from:



Maybe just read the rules and stop trolling and you'd be fine. You should be permabanned for ban evasion alone and sending threats is also against the rules so knock it off.

Well if it's to stay then it probably should have its own mod, along with stricter guidelines on what should and shouldn't be posted there. As for allocating new mods only theymos can do that so hopefully he'll make some changed based on this thread. Staff were pretty much in unison that something needs to change with it and if I remember correctly most were in agreement that it was no longer really needed.


Altcoin or blockchain articles don't belong there, but that's another issue in that all sorts of alt coin spam and anything vaguely mentioning blockchain also gets posted there.

Then just get rid of the board. The Press section was created when any news article was exciting and notable when it got mentioned by a big site, but now bitcoin is mentioned every day somewhere or another, and then of course there's all the coin-prefixed sites you mention that just regurgitate the same old story or make an entire article over what some celebrity tweeted about bitcoin or because John Mcaffe says bitcoin will be worth x amount and will eat his own dick if it doesn't get there. If it stays then we either need to prohibit those sites or elaborate on what notable actually means.

This was just posted in Press:

How to sell EBooks for Bitcoins


That board really isn't for this sort of stuff.

That seems a bit extreme. The Press guidelines already states notable press hits. Some clickbait article from shitcoinnews.net really shouldn't count as 'notable'.


Well whether someone clicks on them or not is besides the point really. I'm sure some do, but it's free to post here so any free advertising is better than nothing and they probably post here hoping that someone will click on them at least. I think most people probably don't click on signatures either, but it's still brand exposure, along with the backlink spam as you say.

The posters that are spamming their articles as described by op probably care neither about signatures or post count, they just want to drive traffic to their sites by spamming links to them. The only people that care about their sigs and post counts in there will be signature campaigners, but this is a secondary issue of the type of spam op is describing.

It's only really there because it's pretty much the only board where you're legally allowed to get away with it. It's a board where essentially plagiarism is allowed as long as it follows the Press format and that's why people have taken advantage of it. Remove it and I doubt people will just start posting it elsewhere. If they do, they should probably be warned and then temp banned, especially if all or most of their posts are just press or promo articles. At the  very minimum some restrictions should be put in place and I think enforcing the notable Press hits clause should be applied ie no crypto-related sources.

I think the table will probably resemble last years, especially with the top three and City winning again, Liverpool coming in second and Spurs moving up from Fourth into Third. Hoping Wolves can do a bit better and push for top 5 but I doubt it as the competition is too strong. I'll be rooting for Liverpool to win though.

If anyone wants to join BitcoinTalk's Premier League pool there's not long left before the start of the season on Friday. It's 0.0025 to join and all money is split between the top 5 winners. If you enjoy football and betting on it without breaking the bank and sticking to a fixed limit then check it out.

You can join here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154317.0

I really wish this would be made a priority. Far too many people are completely ignorant to the rules and oblivious as to what to do here. A simple and short message is all we need detailing the most commonly broken rules and links to further guides and stickies that go into depth about things so they can read up on them if they wish. So many people just have no idea where to even find this stuff and Meta is usually the last board they go into so being directed to these threads when they sign up will be very helpful.

Multiple suggestions have been proposed in the past including just locking/archiving it completely or only allowing posts from non-crypto related sites to stop all the advertising spam. Doing the latter would stop most of the crap but I think that board has served its purpose and is no longer needed now. Any relevant or important article can just be posted and discussed in the main Bitcoin board but at the moment the majority of people who create threads in there are either promoting a site or are getting away with legalised plagiarism which they can get paid for on most campaigns.

Well, by definition it probably is censorship. Sure, it's not nice when you have something removed but deal with. There are plenty of other options to say what you wanted to say. If it's not against the rules then create your own thread to repost it. Posting in a self-moderated thread and having your post removed is like going into someone else's house then complaining when they kick you out. You can go in there and call them a cunt or say something they don't like if you want but they're well within their rights to throw you out.


That's about freedom of speech, which is different to censorship, though obviously overlaps.

It depends on how their bot works (or worked). If it just went by your postcount alone then it might not pay them because posts in there wouldn't effect it, but if it goes through your actual post history and verifies it that way then it would or could still see any new posts as a +1 and count it for payment. Yobit's bot didn't seem to be configured adequately because as already mentioned it was paying negative trust users which weren't allowed and also apparently paying for posts in boards where signatures were even displayed so it must have been counting them someway other than postcount.

Some have been doing it for years. I think some people gave up reporting as well once they realised they weren't going to become a mod. I'm sure perseverance will pay off for some eventually though and people shouldn't be made a mod just for a few months worth of high-volume reporting.


Yeah, like Employee of the Month type things. I've addressed the point before. People always like to be rewarded with things, especially for effort, and even more so when there's some benefit to them (especially financially or in terms of prizes). We had a thing called 'gems' in high school which teachers awarded for good work or behaviour. Once you got x amount you actually got things like Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum certificates once you achieved like 100/500/1000 gems over the year or whatever. Some of them came with actual rewards like McDonalds vouchers and book tokens and things like that.


Well yeah, I doubt theymos would promote an unscrupulous character just because they had a lot of accurate reports and the system could easily be gamed if all it took was a huge amount of reports.

There's hardly any restrictions here. Have you thought the problem may be you? Your earlier posts are mostly just 'nice project' bounty hunting spam like this:


and your recent posts are complete one liner trash:


Do you really think that is an 'important' post? No. It's complete nonsense that you're obviously just churning out for the sake of it. Maybe put some actual thought into your posts and you wouldn't have them removed.

The people who are wearing it are probably just taking their chances in the hope that they'll be paid out eventually. As far as I'm aware the bot is actually counting posts it's just that people aren't getting paid out. If you can't get onto another signature then it doesn't really matter whether you have a sig or not but maybe they're clinging onto hope that they'll eventually be allowed to withdraw funds. If the campaign was actually active then the forum would be littered with yobit signatures but I've only seen a couple. I remember on one of my previous signature campaigns they stopped paying out but people kept their signatures on for quite a while because the bot was still counting posts but withdrawals just weren't being issued and users were hoping they would be eventually but gradually people started removing their sigs as that became less likely. In fact, I think they still owe me 0.1btc and probably similar amounts to others but it's not something I'm going to chase up. 

Well I agree. I think it would be nice if it came with some small perks as well as reporting is pretty much a thankless task and even with a badge that doesn't really come with any benefits, especially since it's a time-consuming task and you're helping out the forum a lot. The only previous perk to reporting was that if you were a very high reporter it made the chances of becoming a mod much higher but I can't remember the past time someone was made a mod from sheer volume of reports. I guess when the time comes when theymos feels we need more mods the list of reporters will be consulted but personally I feel like there's a couple of users who have already paid their dues and would be beneficial as staff even if it's just as patrollers (and they could certainly help out with post approval if that ever happened).