It doesn't matter what you are worth you will always want those things, not because you NEED them but simply because you want them.
Those who are unable to shed their vanity will not hold on to their worth for long. The implication of the statement is fundamentally flawed and misguided, 'vanity' is a matter of self-awareness it can manifest at any age or financial status. Notwithstanding, I'm sure you are aware, that many of those with a net worth in excess of $10B are essentially giving it all away for whatever reason(s). Humans are designed to want acknowledgement, recognition, and be appreciated, regardless of financial worth. |
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Longest Domain name! have anybody seen anyone longer..?
there we are, the first CryptoCurrencyComplaint hahahahaaa without complaints where would we be? Character count = 23 Crypto (Minus) Currency= Crypto Crypto (Minus) Currenty (Plus) Complaint = cryptocomplaint Make it cryptocomplaint.com Character count = 15 Characters How do you like my idea? the word crypto covers far too many areas see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Crypto, with that in mind cryptocomplaint.com would likely get tons of misplaced hits. even the word cryptocoin is an improper association with cryptocurrency, Bitcoin isn't a coin at all, but the name of a digital currency that was developed in such a way (cryptography) as to hide critical information, as such cryptocurrency is the shortest, most accurate way to classify and properly categorize Bitcoin. |
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"+/- 2"
This is only the start of the +1, we still have another, if we end up in $500+ ranges by +2, I think you guys will owe him a huge apology
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Longest Domain name! have anybody seen anyone longer..?
there we are, the first CryptoCurrencyComplaint hahahahaaa without complaints where would we be? |
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Count me in. I've been daytrading for a year.
Clearly with you, ZiG, stylin, g27wr, chessnut, Pente, those who have PMed me, and everyone who voted YES, it looks like this club will be forming and we will likely have a good time making wealthy choices. |
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Coinex.pw EASILY wins this battle. Coinex.pw has the fastest transactions in and out of all exchanges i used so far. It's almost instant when you transact funds out and deposits are as fast as the blockchain allows them to be.
There have been some incidences where coinex.pw had to freeze transactions because of database corruptions they had to fix first.
The problem with coinex.pw is that they do not offer all coins cryptsy has, lack the volume currently (but it's getting better), but most important, their exchange code is less than perfect, requiring me to refresh the browser all the time. They need to fix this (maybe they have as i did not use it for some time now because i did not trade any alts lately).
All in all, coinex.pw i trust way more than cryptsy which obviously does it's own arbitrage on high volume coins, possibly conspiring with another exchange. It's no coincidence certain coins allow you to draw out funds quickly while coins allowing for arbitrage at peak times like doge, tips, IXC , moon etc required several days at times to withdraw them.
It got to the point where i had to send a few test coins in and out to see if they enabled their artificial withdraw/deposit freezing on certain coins.
I got trapped still with some doge when 3-4 transactions worked just fine on the same volume, followed by a transaction which took almost a day to get out.
It would be quite easy for coinex.pw to destroy cryptsy, simply by adding autosell and all alts (possibly even more than cryptsy). This would take away all users which just mine alts and want to autosell them for btc/ltc/doge or other more future proof coins.
As i see it, the only reason why people use cryptsy is simply becase there is no alternative, as in an exchange having almost all alts and allowing to autosell.
that's a great review, but given recent events it might be best to find out if they are still functioning before giving them such a great review. No work = No good. No work + No tell = Bad (No work + No tell)*Days = Irresponsible |
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How would you like to magnify your wealth, influence, and prestige?
Up for consideration is discussion about the formation of a Bitcoin club, where you WILL be respected and regarded for your btc acumen
Actual movers and shakers do not need a "prestige and respect club" to get their work done. I agree that "movers and shakers do not need a "prestige and respect club" to get their work done" and I have emphasized "need" because I believe the driving force isn't a need, but is a want for the common things that come with societies, communities, and groups -- recognition, validation, and acceptance for their contribution, effort, energy and regard. It doesn't matter what you are worth you will always want those things, not because you NEED them but simply because you want them. I've seen far too many good people with good intentions and good advice needlessly get disrespected because they were: "newbies", "inarticulate", used improper grammar, or simply dared to see things in a different way. To add insult to the injury, when it turns out that the person(s) was spot on, I see no apology, no retroactive acknowledgement, and credit for getting it right. Sadly, I see those same people participate LESS, resulting in more potential harm coming to the community. I'm providing a space where those who want to do good for themselves and the community can do so, a place where their earnest efforts and energies WILL be respected, where their voice will be heard, and cogent recommendations voted on. From the looks of it, the club will be formed, if it is done right it will be duplicated many times over in many different ways. How would you like to magnify your wealth, influence, and prestige?
This isn't wisdom, this is elitism and ego fapping. See it as you wish, call it what you want but in the club it will be identified for what it is: 'wealth building with intelligence'. |
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there is no way that a group of 20+ people would have voted "yes" to the motion
Hindsight is always 20/20. Had there been a vote of 20 people; I bet the right speaker could have swayed a plurality one direction or the other -- towards either hasty action resulting in a loss or missed opportunity, or hesitant failure to act resulting in a loss or missed opportunity. Now it depends on the audience; if you have 20 people who are inherently more risk-averse than ambitious or put suggestions through a highly detailed, highly technical detailed tests, then err in the opposite direction is likely. The ability to persuade 20 people of something, does not necessarily align with that thing being correct, reliable, or valid. If we know history repeats itself, and we know hindsight is 20/20, all we needed to do was look at the history right? Well the simply fact is many people saw the history and waved the red flag, in fact so of those who knew entertaining Gox was academic nonsense still took the risk because they felt the rewards out weighed it. But that was all individual think, not group think. Peer pressure to act responsibly is stronger than many think. Look harder at the facts of the matter, statistically group think IS necessarily more reliable than individual decision making; moreover larger more diverse groups tend to make better decision more reliably than smaller groups. The data is conclusive across the board, group think works better than non-group think. Think jury, panel, board, high courts, etc ... executives are there for day to day efficiency but if you want something thought out you seek the attention of reasonable prudent people. A smart system ALWAYS has a group to check the power of the individual. Don't worry about tomorrows value of bitcoin, just concentrate your affords on promoting bitcoin as a currency, get more and more companies to accept bitcoin more and more people will see the usefulness of bitcoin so more and more people have a reason to hold bitcoin other then for speculative purposes and the price has to go up in the long term.
That type of talk, in light of all that has occurred this year especially in light of the matters that are still unresolved, is simply irresponsible. Anyone entering the cryptocurrency economy should know the history of btc and all of the risks, your best consumers will be those in the know, not in the dark. So mini Illuminati group I guess that is still possible at this stage in bitcoin
Wonder if this is how these groups are created in traditional systems as well
you do realize that bitcointalk is essentially a very large group with a common interest that started from a very small group with a common interest. you do realize that many outside of this forum are seeing this forum in the way you are viewing the club right? so you want to use other people coins for you own gain without any kind of insurance your actions would create an kind of impact.
hahahahaa, where did you read that? Read it for what it says, not for what you want it to say. |
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I was part of a small group that did this a few years ago.
Basically you would PM the guy who was coordinating it. He would send out a message to the other members with "1 member is selling at $4.35".
It ended up only about 2 or 3 of us other than the coordinator. And it was not very useful.
thanks for the input, 1) how many did the group start with 2) why the PMs 3) what was the performance track record |
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Tomorrow March 16 is VERY important day in geo-political developments:
The referendum in Crimea !
Big move(s) development is quite possible for Sunday and/or Monday...
Be VERY careful...
Zig, feel free to elaborate with great specificity, why you feel the referendum in Crimea will impact the bitcoin market, and what action you would recommend btc speculators take. |
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there is great strength in intelligently organized numbers. i see what you did there. This looks like a nice idea, i;ll be watching. Just a question though: isn't this whole forum the club you are mentioning? Indeed it is how I initially viewed it. It's doing a splendid job at bringing people together, however, I think its immense size is allowing many of it's member to get lost in the space, many unnecessarily losing money thinking its a rite of bitcoin passage. All too often I see hard working people at every level of the btc community trying to realize the "American 'rags to riches' Dream" only for it to be snatched from them for whatever reason. We are a community that has a PUBLIC formula for literally making money why is there so much thievery? To make a ongoing story short, if we do this right not only will the community never be mass goxxed again, and minor goxxings will be covered (one way or another); but thousands of millionaires will be created. At this stage in btc's development many clubs are needed. |
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As i stated before, March 16 is approaching. My Math genius friend who can predict chart futures confirms this (he is autistic), i have used this genius friend for making alot of Money from Bitcoin (i am also famous for having the hottest girlfriend in BTT)
Get ready will be good chance to buy low, there will be a major dip. Margin of error for the major dip is +/- 2 days maximum
Remember remember the 16th of Marchmember.
Obviously you know Bitcoin success is about knowledge, opportunity, and timing, that is why I'm inviting you and your gifted friend to join the Bitcoin Investment Club, but first help us form it. A group of bitcoin speculators (currently 19 and growing) is seeking to form a Bitcoin club where we can share knowledge, create opportunities, and enjoy wealth. The club wants a minimum of 50 people, because it wants a wide representation of the bitcoin community, it wants input from the holders, the service providers, the spectators, as well as the core speculators to start making formal recommendations. It is expected that club members will share btc strategies and tactics, and that individual members will make recommendations in a cogent fashion such that the club could intelligently vote then act accordingly. Unlike most clubs that may meet monthly, this club would always be in order, ready to hear recommendations, vote, and take concerted action whenever justified. Get involved cast your vote(s) here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516371.0 |
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Coinex is very bad at the moment, deposits and withdrawals often not happening, no response from support. Something is pretty screwed up there. Hopefully it just that the exchange is swamped and can't keep up.
Ahhhhh, dammm, ... first of all thank you for your quick reply, 2ndly, thank you for the info. this just reinforces the need for more accountability, responsibility, and transparency from service providers; in this absence of information we are supposed to 'believe' things are ok? give them the benefit of any doubt? This is precisely why the btc community needs tighter networks to make sure that it's resources are stable, reliable, and in order. |
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Bitcoin success is about knowledge, opportunity, and timing, as a trader you know this as much as anyone. A group of bitcoin speculators (currently 10 and growing) is seeking to form a Bitcoin club where we can share knowledge, create opportunities, and enjoy wealth. The club wants a minimum of 50 people, it wants a wide representation of the bitcoin community, it wants input from the holders, the service providers, the spectators, as well as the core speculators to start making formal recommendations. It is expected that the club will share btc strategies and tactics, and that individual members will make recommendations to the group in a cogent fashion such that the club could vote intelligently then act accordingly. Unlike most clubs that may meet monthly, this club would always be in order, ready to hear recommendations, vote, and take concerted action whenever justified. We need your voice to be heard here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516371.0 |
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For example, you argue that btc should go to $675 on wednesday, you provide convincing evidence to that effect, the recommendation is brought to a vote, if the majority approve; as a club we do what you recommend.
what kind of nonsense is this? no one can vote on the price! (except by buying and selling in the market.) let me rephrase that with more elaboration let's say that btc on monday is $650, and a bitcoin club member (Barry) believe it should be valued at $675 by Wednesday. It is up to Barry to educate, defend, or argue his case for the club to adopt his recommendation. Barry is likely to point to charts history, media, btc community sentiment, and perhaps other technical or conditional reasons for the recommendation, but when he's done he will essentially ask the club to buy Btc given certain specifications for purchase. That recommendation (with list of particulars) will be presented to the club for a majority vote, if the club votes yes, then as a club they do as the recommendation advises, if they vote no then the recommendation is dead. so the vote is on what barry is presenting, which includes a cryptocurrency, a price, a date, a buy/sell directive, etc ... everything so that each member could properly analyze the recommendation and vote accordingly. from: Bit_Happy on Today at 09:35:04 PM
OP: You started this thread to promo your other thread?
Good luck finding "The Smartest Bitcoin Pros In The World" This thread serves multiple purposes, 1) to discussion the notion about the formation of a speculator's Bitcoin club 2) to find the people who know Bitcoin on many levels and want to share their knowledge 3) invite people btc speculators vote their interests given the responses, it also serves 4) as a punching bag so that people can vent What occurred at Mt Gox was, in my opinion a direct result of unreasonable individualism, there is no way that a group of 20+ people would have voted "yes" to the motion: 'buy btc at Mt Gox' after the withdrawal freeze, it it was reasonably argued (pro and con), then rationally debated. Because group think works, particularly when there are more than 20 people in the group, the group has diverse interests, and the individuals in the group can vote freely. |
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I'm not really a fan of any group that hopes to manipulate the price.
I realize it may happen when Wall Street and other crooks get involved.
But why would it be something we'd want to encourage. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the OP.
I think a better group would be a collection of highly intelligent and articulate individuals who can help sway public opinion. By doing things such as swamping news article (comments section) with correct information, rebuttals, etc to help educate the public properly. Or people with influence who can swing a $100,000 paper wallet campaign, funding 50,000 paper wallets with $2.00 each, and handing them out to the general public.
Lets do things that grow the community. Speed up adoption. Change the perception of Bitcoin from fraud and theft to humanitarian aid, and all it does to benefit humanity. Use your power for good. There's enough abuse of power in the Bitcoin scene. The very thing we're trying to get away from.
-B-
great idea, want people to work on it, want people to consider it seriously, want it funded? What do you do? good ideas abound around worldwide however there are abundance of naysayers all to willing to beat down any semblance of a good ideas see above posts. have you thought about starting a thread on any of your ideas? the prejudice that btc experiences from the wider community is enormous, so I could understand the 'hurt people, hurt people' syndrome but I'm here to remind you that not everyone think alike, and it often takes effort to find like-minded individuals even for things that make the most sense. The opening post was all about good, yet it seems to have attracted high levels of negativity in terms of forum responses, yet produced positive responses to the target link. To me that indicates the target audience is getting the messages but is not willing to fight the causeless battle in this thread. |
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How would you like to magnify your wealth, influence, and prestige? Up for consideration is discussion about the formation of a Bitcoin club, where you WILL be respected and regarded for your btc acumen, where you could share btc strategies and tactics, and where you could make a recommendation have it acknowledged and executed in a group action. For example, you argue that btc should go to $675 on wednesday, you provide convincing evidence to that effect, the recommendation is brought to a vote, if the majority approve; as a club we do what you recommend. This wouldn't be a club that meets once a month at the local library, but a club in a perpetual meeting, taking concerted action whenever justified; where it's enjoyable, empowering, and enriching to be right We want YOU! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516371.0 |
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Yes to all the top 3
Free is good
Mostly a HODLer
but I use 1% to play with altcoins, BTC.SX and other strategies that invariable make me lose tiny sums of money.
Pente, a well organized investment club could easily improve the standing of any particular position all while increasing the wealth of individual club members. for example, let's say just 20 people decided to invest $50 in an alt coin at a historically low point (just about all of them are there now) it will likely signal a trend change. if the membership was 100 and the recommendation was only a $5 investment it would have a greater effect on the position. The point is there is great strength in intelligently organized numbers. |
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Coinex all the way. Cryptsy fees are at least 2-3x higher and they tax when you place the bid. Coinex taxes the transaction.
This post is just plain wrong. I advise people to check with the exchanges to get the facts. As of right now: Coinex is 0.2% sell and 0.2% buy Cryptsy is 0.3% sell and 0.2% buy Cryptsy does not charge for placing orders... the fee is a percentage on all/portion of the transaction *filled*. Like everyone else. thanks for that info. question, I can't seem to find the fee schedule anywhere on coinex, would you have a link |
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