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19281  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 11:45:11 AM
Just remember that in early 14 the consensus was that it would never go below the flash $380ish bottom of late December 13, (proportionally to the recent high roughly $6000 today). We went below it in April 14 and it was broken properly in 3Q14 eventually hitting a bottom at $160ish (2.5k proportionally to the recent high) and didn't get back above it until 2016 rolled in.

Never say never.

Don't be fucking goofie.. because I doubt that very many posters are asserting "never" here, but I think that many of us are asserting that the odds are much greater that we are in an early 2013 type scenario rather than in an early 2014 type scenario... ... so yeah, sure as fucking hell we could end up being in an early 2014 type scenario right now, but merely because something is likely, it is much fucking more prudent to be planning on what seems to be the more likely scenario rather than the less likely scenario...
 
On the other hand, if BTC prices go below $6k and stay there for a considerable time, or some other facts change, then yeah, at that point, it becomes more likely that we had been in an early 2014 like scenario rather than an early 2013 like scenario.. but it remains way too premature to be calling the more bearish scenario as if it were the more likely scenario when it currently remains the less likely scenario that probably every fucking one of us concedes is within the realm of possibilities, even though some folks are prematurely attempting to call the less likely scenario as if it were the more likely scenario,which also comes off as FUD spreading rather than attempting a realistic discussion.
19282  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 11:35:17 AM
[edited out]

I think sub $10,000 is obviously possible. All the way down to $2,500 though? Near impossible for me buddy, too many people would be having a feast on coins valued at around $4000 - $5000.

I think that you and I are largely on the same page (or at least in a similar part of the chapter), if not based on close but slightly differing rational... I did edit my earlier post that you quoted and add a bit of language based on subsequent posts that I read after my initial response to you.
19283  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 11:23:10 AM
... if 10k doesn't hold we'll probably go back and test 5k support ... or maybe lower like 2500 area needs some backing and filling also

it'll be cathartic if we dive that low ... like a whale diving to get rid of all the parasites ... btc has sure built up it's fair share of those during this last run ... alts, ICOS, "blockchain" charlatans and straight out conartists are everywhere



Quoted for comedic relief.... hahahahahahahaha

When I first read MOA's post, I thought the same thing, but since generally speaking, MOA is a very reasonable poster, I thought that it was not a problem to leave him to get away with a few exaggerations here or there - outside scenarios or otherwise "bullshit", as you tagged such propositions.

My view is that breaking below $10k will cause a pretty decent chance for $9,300; however, there is still going to be decent sized buying support at each $1,000 level - including $8k and $7k that must be broken through before getting anywhere near anything approaching inevitable lower price points....

I do think that if we do happen to get below, about $6,666 (chosen for additional comedic effect), then at that point $5k and even spiking down to $3k has a decent chance - yet on the other hand, if it takes us a few months before we are even able to get down to $6,666, then at that point, $6k would become a very likely double bottom... and we's not be going below dat... without a really BIG ASS battle.

Edit:  In response to posts coming after LFC's asserting that the purge will cause the removal of ICOs, parasitic alts, problematic 3rd parties such as coinbase, bitpay etc, these are fantasy considerations because the cryptospace is about 99.5% NOT ready for such purging.. and accordingly these fuck job bad actors and parasites are going to be around for at least one more BTC pump cycle... because no fucking purge is ready - even though I agree that it would be deserved, but the happening of such, is too fucking much fantastical thinking and for that reason not going to happen and therefore we are not going to get some kind of long winter now... because the space remains geared up for another irrational and stupid-ass pump, whether we want it or not.. there are a lot of dumb shits that are going to be putting more money into this space rather than smart money purging out the impurities and/or parasites.
19284  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 05:52:44 AM
LOL. Mempool almost empty again. What a time to be alive.

Up yours, BCash fucktards !!! Tongue my fartbox !

Ahh.  See the difference?

Can you not see the difference when a reasonable, rational, decent poster can exercise free speech within the constraints of the...

ACTUAL FUCKING TOPIC?!?!

Thank you. 5 MERITS.

This is what my wrinkly ass thinks about your attempts to encourage on-topicness through your gonads of bribery: 

19285  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 04:40:57 AM
So stop quoting the trolls so we don't all have to read their posts over and over

25 fucking merit.


Is there no way to:

1.  Ban the perma-off-topic, vomitously hideous shit for a soul roach?
2.  The rest of the garden variety Nazi fucks turn their knobs down to say... I dunno 7?  Or 8?
3.  Talk about bitcoin?  Or Monero?

God.  Talk about Ripple and BCASH if you want!  But stop with all the damned race oriented blathering.

And just ONE PAGE.

O N E.  P A G E.

With no mentions of "EVIL JEWS" an no usage of the word "cuckold"?

Just one?


your post even inspires me to assert that there is not enough room for black (non insulting kind of nigg"ah") chick cuckold jew fagot with a low IQ..

Me too...... I won't be stifled in my artistic freedoms.      Tongue Tongue    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
19286  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 02:51:43 AM
What is bitcoin

A  purely   "peer-to-peer"   version   of   "electronic   cash"   allowing   "online   payments"   to   be   sent   "directly   from   one   party   to   another"   without   going   through   a   financial    institution.  


that's it!!!

make of it what you will

its all up to you


GET the fuck out of here with your Bcash shill phraseological attempt at trying to confine bitcoin to some kind of definition.    Roll Eyes    Tongue

Define "shill."
 Grin

For the purposes of this useage, I am using dictionary definition.. and nothing special.. and if that basic understanding of the word does not work, then we can figure it out whether the word "shill" needs further tweaking or explanation thereafter.
19287  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 02:45:57 AM

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy    haha fucking asshole melting down jingiluangagaaaa


Are you delusional, too?

Do you believe that I am melting down, merely because I used some BIG WORDS as emphasis?  Get a life, goofball.
19288  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 02:42:33 AM
What is bitcoin

A  purely   "peer-to-peer"   version   of   "electronic   cash"   allowing   "online   payments"   to   be   sent   "directly   from   one   party   to   another"   without   going   through   a   financial    institution.  


that's it!!!

make of it what you will

its all up to you


GET the fuck out of here with your Bcash shill phraseological attempt at trying to confine bitcoin to some kind of definition.    Roll Eyes    Tongue
19289  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 02:32:14 AM
I know offtopic posts are frowned upon here, and some topics are more off than other, but I'll risk it.

Have you heard about cryptocurrencies? Well there's this nifty thing called bitcoin, it's my favorite.
It's holding 10.5 k-ish.


What is that supposed to mean?  You are bullish and hoping, or what?

Let me ask you a semi-personal question which is a kind of after-the-fact assessment regarding how you faired through our dip down to $6k?  Are you of the opinion that you largely ran out of money to buy BTC between $6k and $8k, even though you were able to buy some BTC in those price ranges?  Were you able to adjust some of your strategy in order to possibly better prepare in the future, or are you largely hoping that we are out of this downward price pickle?

Let me report my own personal scenario from the mid-September 2017 40% correction down from $4,980 to $2,970 - which was that after going through that situation, I had to readjust a considerable amount of my preparations, which actually caused me to oversell a bit from our BTC rebounding back up from $2,970, and really I did not feel that I completely recuperated until we started to break upwards back into new ATHs.. and then the icing on the cake restructuring came for me around 2x higher in the $10k arena and further more when we passed $15k which allowed a fuckload of restructuring and even added cockiness....

So, I am anticipating that even though you are making recovery plans from the unexpected over correction of 70% down to $5,920 that you are going to be in a much better position to really restructure your plan as BTC gets back up and maybe even becoming more solid in your approach as we assume the ATH again (assuming that we accomplish such either this year or a worse bull case scenario would be that it takes longer than a year to get above ATH again).... yeah, yeah, yeah, Beara readers, I understand also that there are also bear scenarios that could cause worse outcomes, even though I believe that a lot of us in this thread, including yours truly put a bit more weight on the probability of bull scenarios in the coming year rather than bear scenarios.. and that is part of the reason that we are in bitcoin and part of the reason why we get so freaking excited about bitcoin.
19290  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 02:17:59 AM
Quote
JayJuanGee post



Can you be more specific you hate-filled nutjob?   Probably not, because you don't really have anything to contribute beyond your various non-topical talking points.

JayJuanGee, can I interest you in a few trillion dollars of Jewish treasuries?

Well, if you would interact with me on the first question, then perhaps I would be willing to entertain the idea of interacting you with further questions

HOWEVER


YOU FUCKING TURD




you did not even address my first question before going on to asking an additional question.

You quasi-incoherent delusional trolling FUCK!!!!!!    Roll Eyes
19291  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 12:45:29 AM
The American right wing conspiratard radio commentator. I don’t know his name but he talks about gay frogs. So he is gay frogs guy.
I believe that would be Alex Jones.

Sounds familiar so probably right.  

Gerald Celente was on Alex Jones yesterday (depending on your time zone) telling people to buy Bitcoin.

Do you have a link for that?  I feel like I wasted some of my life listening to Alex Jones trying to find it, and then the Gerald Celente crypto currencies part was at 2 hours 23 minutes and 30 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwe_iMi8-fw

I did not even believe him to be recommending anything, and he does not really seem to know how to differentiate bitcoin from other cryptos because he said that the "valuable ones" are the ones that offer a kind of product, and I have recently been seeing that kind of bullshit discussion that in order to be valuable cryptocurrencies have to offer a product.

Accordingly, cryptocurrency pundits miss the whole fucking idea (or product of bitcoin), and they fail to realize that bitcoin is the actual product because of what it actually offers in terms of liberating folks from traditional money's control over you.

Furthermore, Alex Jones is no where to be seen, and what Alex needs is to have someone on his show specifically informing him about the Roger dat bullshit, and maybe even have an ability for both Roger and a regular bitcoin supporter to debate... someone who can hold their own to Roger.. which should be anyone who is fairly knowledgeable about bitcoin, and understands the bullshiterie of Bcash.

Also, if Roger were to go on a little rant that he does not want bcash to be called bcash, then perhaps the discussion should end at that point because roger can call his bcash anything that he wants, but if he will not engage with you because you continue to call bcash, bcash, then may as well not discuss the matter with the loonie...

 That was the show I was listening to (but I was falling asleep during it because it was after a night shift).  It starts around the 2hr40min mark.  He says follow the money and that's a segue into Switzerland and it becoming the crypto capital of the world.  He mentions they don't make specific recommendations, but he says crypto-currencies are "going North".  Then he talks about gold and right near the end of it, he says when gold hits 1400 or 1450 "it's gonna be a Bitcoin bounce baby!" - you kind of have to read between the lines but he's saying "Buy Bitcoin".


I find no reason to argue with you about whether Gerald Cerente is overall bullish about bitcoin and crypto, yet my point remains that it does not matter too much regarding how bullish he happens to be, because he seem to be caught up with fucked up premises that will likely interfere with his ability to differentiate bitcoin from other cryptos in meaningful ways.

Most bitcoin maximalists, including a large number of the ones participating in this thread (to the extent that they are not caught up in distracting and irrelevant social engineering hate nonsense discussions) recognize that bitcoin retains fundamental characteristics around proof of work that is not fundamentally characteristics of other cryptos, which includes bitcoin networking effects that are fairly established around bitcoin under largely free-market conditions that have really decent chances that bitcoin is going to come out top no matter what and no matter if some other snake oil alt becomes BIGGER than bitcoin in terms of market cap. 

TLDR:  I am just saying that Cerente does not seem to understand BTC fundamentals and what actually causes bitcoin to be valuable in an ongoing paradigm shifting kind of way and differentiated from other cryptos and other traditional asset classes.
19292  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 12:25:12 AM
Also, if Roger were to go on a little rant that he does not want bcash to be called bcash, then perhaps the discussion should end at that point because roger can call his bcash anything that he wants, but if he will not engage with you because you continue to call bcash, bcash, then may as well not discuss the matter with the loonie...

I really like this. So much drama and energy...and most important...TIME..could have been saved with just this. Just to have called it VerCoin...WuCoin...whatevercoin. Just own your own branding instead of trying to befuddle bitcoin with half truths. They were so afraid back then that without the name brand it would not succeed. Now that crypto is going mainstream they have realized they could have called it anything and still have enough success to be economically viable. Hindsight smh.

I'm not sure whether I am understanding you here, ToxicPoxic. 

They have only achieved the level of "success" that they had been able to achieve through a kind of parasite-ism on bitcoin both in terms of name and transferring over of intellectual work (software.. blah blah blah).. Bitserve had done a pretty decent outlined of this, recently... .

Of course, bitcoin's software is open source, so their does remain a certain level of "fair game" within the bcash's team's chosen tactics, but surely a lot of folks are beginning to seem more clearly regarding their smoke and mirrors gamesmanship - yet at the same time, they continue to play off the ongoing and seeming increasing entrants of newbies into the space who can be deceived through their tactics - and it remains somewhat difficult to fight some of their deceitful tactics in the free market, which does allow for a certain level of "all is fair in love and war" environment.
19293  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2018, 12:14:03 AM
Quote
JayJuanGee post



Can you be more specific you hate-filled nutjob?   Probably not, because you don't really have anything to contribute beyond your various non-topical talking points.
19294  Other / Off-topic / Re: Merit System Upgrade on: February 22, 2018, 12:09:44 AM
To me, this is a big ass waste of time and funny but whatever.  

Which part of "this" are you concluding is a BIG ass waste of time (added caps for emphasis.. hahahahaha)?

It looks like QA is o.k spending some of his time reviewing and rewarding merits to posts based on a criteria that he outlines in OP... sure of course, there is going to be some subjectivity involved, too, but in the end, his OP does seem to allow an avenue for some members to have some of their post history reviewed and to get some feed back from QA....

There are other merit give away threads that outline criteria differently from QA's.

On other hand, if you are suggesting that the whole merit system is a BIG ass waste of time, then you are likely in the wrong thread, and there are all kinds of other threads in which you would be able to make that kind of assertion and also be on topic for the thread.
19295  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 21, 2018, 11:59:54 PM

Or they get banned?? Much better idea if you ask me
Yeah, perfect solution but who is going to ban them? I see so many now selling and buying accounts,just people with red trust everywhere.

The sMerit reduction for red trust is general approach and less time consuming. Many will be disappointed and will give up.

sMerit reduction for red trust seems like a ridiculous proposed solution from my point of view - since the merit system and the trust system are separate, and bringing in some kind of reduction of sMerit formula for red trust would likely cause more problems than it solves in terms of adding complexity and possible unintended bad player gaming consequences.
19296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 06:30:56 PM
Lets stop posting more than 1 message a week after page  Shocked  Shocked 20.000 !!! Cheesy Cheesy


Let's NOT and say that we did.    Roll Eyes      Tongue
19297  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 06:28:54 PM
The American right wing conspiratard radio commentator. I don’t know his name but he talks about gay frogs. So he is gay frogs guy.
I believe that would be Alex Jones.

Sounds familiar so probably right.  

Gerald Celente was on Alex Jones yesterday (depending on your time zone) telling people to buy Bitcoin.

Do you have a link for that?  I feel like I wasted some of my life listening to Alex Jones trying to find it, and then the Gerald Celente crypto currencies part was at 2 hours 23 minutes and 30 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwe_iMi8-fw

I did not even believe him to be recommending anything, and he does not really seem to know how to differentiate bitcoin from other cryptos because he said that the "valuable ones" are the ones that offer a kind of product, and I have recently been seeing that kind of bullshit discussion that in order to be valuable cryptocurrencies have to offer a product.

Accordingly, cryptocurrency pundits miss the whole fucking idea (or product of bitcoin), and they fail to realize that bitcoin is the actual product because of what it actually offers in terms of liberating folks from traditional money's control over you.

Furthermore, Alex Jones is no where to be seen, and what Alex needs is to have someone on his show specifically informing him about the Roger dat bullshit, and maybe even have an ability for both Roger and a regular bitcoin supporter to debate... someone who can hold their own to Roger.. which should be anyone who is fairly knowledgeable about bitcoin, and understands the bullshiterie of Bcash.

Also, if Roger were to go on a little rant that he does not want bcash to be called bcash, then perhaps the discussion should end at that point because roger can call his bcash anything that he wants, but if he will not engage with you because you continue to call bcash, bcash, then may as well not discuss the matter with the loonie...
19298  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 05:34:04 PM


There is more than one "it's happening"  doom meme around here, somewhere...
19299  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2018, 02:50:13 AM
Cliff High Predicts $13,888 by the end of the month, for whatever that's worth.

(not much)





Are we like parrots in here... didn't several of us parrots already say, "DDOOOOMM?"


19300  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 21, 2018, 02:42:22 AM
Merit can be sent to someone else ? how does this work ?


I had read in one of the merit threads (perhaps this one) that your "+merit" link (or button on the top of each post) to be able to send merit to someone else does not appear unless you have at least one sendable merit in your bank. 

So, for you, you need to earn two merits to then have acquired one smerit to be able to send, and then your button/link will appear, and the rest should be fairly straight forward.
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