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19341  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 19, 2018, 02:28:45 AM

I'm not spammer but i'm newbie and i don't know earn merit point. What a pity when participated in forum late and now is very difficult for newbie.  😂


I looked at your posts, and they are pretty shitty... there is no real substance to them except you seem to be searching for ways to make money...on bounty or whatever.  So yeah, you been here a very short period of time and did not contribute anything that would really inspire anyone to give you a merit, right?  Can you see how I see that in the posts that you have made, so far?
19342  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 19, 2018, 12:42:56 AM
Actually, in another thread, a member repeated the concept of a "negative merit," and I had a kind of "ah ha" moment.

Here's my earlier post.

I was initially against the idea of negative merit, but I thought of a way that it might work.  Here it goes:

It seems to me that if there were negative merits, the poster should need to feel so strongly about giving the negative merit that it would subtract from his/her regular merit bank.

Therefor, if the member gave someone a negative merit, then that person would need to have at least 5 merits because it would remove 5 merits from that members regular merits in order for that member to give the one negative merit to the other member.  Under such a system, we would be able to have negative merits, and members would only employ such possible negative merit feature sparingly and after giving some considerable thought to it.
19343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 12:36:14 AM
The average alt-right is an angry, unemployed, single white male. Mostly they are just losers.  So a bit hard for them to have polyamorous relationships when they are incapable of having any relationship.
We need negative merits. Or just plus and minus buttons.


Actually, I thought that the idea of negative merits would be a bad thing; however, after reading your post, I just had an "ah ha moment." 

If there were negative merits, you would need to feel so strongly about giving the negative merit that if you gave someone a negative merit, then it would remove 5 merits from your regular merits in order to give the one negative merit to the other person  - then members would only employ such possible negative merit feature sparingly and after some considerable thought.
19344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 12:30:10 AM
It is a little mind boggling that anyone would sell during the weekend knowing they could sell for 10-20% more on Monday. Can a bear explain the mentality?

I'm not a bear but I will try to explain following a simple strategy that helps me sleep at night:
I sell 50% of my earnings daily, regardless of price.

 Invest -> Profit -> Protect



My strategy that helps me sleep at night is to convert all my daily earnings to bitcoin, regardless of price.


becoin = smart


grn = dumbass

 Wink
19345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 12:16:40 AM
also, I never regarded my partners as property, so really I just don't get it as an insult

Well, I mean, if you enjoy watching your devoted partner being fucked by someone else, then I guess you wouldn't see it as an insult...
If my devoted partner was being fucked by someone else I'd kick them the hell out of my house and not really care about the insult, as I'd be happy to have parted with such a piece of shit of a human being.


You MONOGAMIST PIG!!!!!!


Don't you know that sharing is caring?


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
19346  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 12:07:02 AM
Your subsequent explanation seems to concede that we are in the early stages of bitcoin's adoption; however,  I conclude, to my own health detriment, that your chart seems to suggest that we are past the hype cycle in BTC and all matters are downhill from here.. I can see it visually on your chart.   And, from my perspective, I doubt that we are going downhill from here whether we are talking about hype or we are talking about adoption, or we are talking about development or we are talking about financial.
I thought we were just, you know..talking..but if you want to break down each of those...by all means.

I tend to take a holistic approach when discussing the future, bitcoin and technology JJG. They will all be massively integrated. That chart is just an illustration of hype cycles and how long after something is hyped that it ramps up to productivity.
You did notice that each of the iconography placed on the perceived bubble is also a representation in time right? So our lovely bitcoin blockchain is just cresting over the hype bubble but the full productivity plateau is still several years into the future.

This is just hype..not price...not adoption...ok?  All these other things do have correlation..but that is not what my point was. It was forcasting that even tho we we are at the top of hype or just past it that all the good things are still coming...is that spelled out clear enough now?

#btfd

I pretty much accepted that your intentions were good and bullish all along..  yet I think that your chart was "lacking,"  and sure I was employing some drama in my response to exaggerate my position, especially when you were kind of inviting me to yell.... hahahahahahaha

I am all calm and settled, yet my proclivity for violence just comes out... in a kind of exaggerated form, like this:




Even though on the inside, I am really feeling like this:


 Kiss Kiss Kiss...... (if you know what I am saying, Toxic Moxic?)
19347  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 18, 2018, 11:51:00 PM
I wonder who the first one to 15 million merits will be  Wink

I like this change a lot Cheesy. Hopefully we'll see an increase in post quality  Cool


Could you be a bit more realistic... come on, 15million? 

Why don't we start by attempting to find out who gets to 10k first and then 100k.. perhaps, witnessing the  reaching BTC price parity first would be a more realistic merit received target?

So far, Theymos is in the lead by quite a bit, but perhaps some posters will catch up to him and pass him up?  Perhaps?
19348  Other / Meta / Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?) on: February 18, 2018, 01:48:46 PM
thx about that, I also gained a lot from this
Can I be upgraded to a legendary member for charity sake

Ok, since it's for charity sake then consider it done!
[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Accolade_by_Edmund_Blair_Leighton.jpg[/img]
(someone delete this post and the previous one. Thx)
You people are simply lazy and egoistic, you have to follow the path that every bitcoiner spent years walking in it.

I, for one, appreciate your seemingly aptly placed humor and the associated imagery, and I suppose if posts are going to be deleted, then the deleting powers that be gonna have to delete this one, too.   Shocked   Shocked


You too hard on my post, I know am fucking gonno get there either which ways

Simply, because your second sentence is considered as begging. And yeah, you could make it of course but after you take on consideration the Merit system


hahahahahaha... ultimately actions speak louder than words, and frequently it takes a while to engage in threads in meaningful ways, so it seems to me that if Sliki is going to live up to his/her/its words and work his/her/its way up the bitcointalk ranks, then lots of post quality improvement would be necessary..   just my off the cuff, first impression.

19349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 01:43:45 PM
I do not think you can call BCash small units Satoshi, I would never go that far: they might be called jihans maybe but definitely not Satoshis. Wink


hahahahaha


or Rogers

"Roger that"
Does he actually use "Roger that"?

I don't know.

He's kind of dug himself into such a giant crazy ass hole (pun intended) that will allow less and less humor.. and his emotions have come out so intensely, that it seems that he cannot even recognize that bcash is a pretty cool name... but he just strives so much to control the narrative and even self-contradicts that he appreciates the concept of decentralization, while at the same time he wants to define what decentralization is, and he has his own little coin (aka con) for that.

More and more peeps are catching on that he is a con artist and the more that people recognize that and spread it, the more pissed off he seems to become.  I wonder how many years they can keep bleeding credibility and seemingly cash through this coin.. one or two more years, perhaps?  Sure there are more suckers out there, right?  Roger that?
19350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 01:31:17 PM
from 11.2 k to 10.2k
nooooo  Embarrassed
I hope we don't go below 10k again.

Nah. I'll cheer to go for 9K below then buy if it happens! And if hits again for 11K sell it!

Didn't we already have more than two weeks to buy below $9k, why would we have any kind of desire to go below $9k again, or why would we even be hoping for such, unless we just found out about bitcoin or some other unusual reason like that?

Don't get me wrong.  I am certainly ready to buy more bitcoin if the price goes below $9k; however, it seems to me that this fun little correction has already played itself out enough, and it's time to return UP.. get this train back on the rails and choo choo'ing.

Regarding your point to sell at $11k after any supposed dip below $9k, it sounds like you are too heavily involved in a bearish kind of thinking about bitcoin, and perhaps you believe some of those bullshit assertions that we are entering into a bear market that is like the 2014 bear market.  Sure there is some possibility that you could be right, but it seems that the odds are against you if you believe that is what kind of market we are in right now, after merely a couple month 70% correction that was largely only based on momentum rather than any kind of meaningful negative news, so still seems to me that we are more likely in an early 2013 kind of scenario rather than an early 2014 kind of scenario and if you are playing around too much with your little bear assumptions, there are pretty decent odds that you are gonna be chasing the train and buying at $17k or something like that, after you sold everything at $11k.. .. sorry about that..  Cry Cry   Kiss
19351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
I do not think you can call BCash small units Satoshi, I would never go that far: they might be called jihans maybe but definitely not Satoshis. Wink


hahahahaha


or Rogers

"Roger that"
19352  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 18, 2018, 12:50:09 PM
JayJuanGee

I find your avatar ironic, because out of your entire, emotional and petulant rant, you danced around the subject. Not once did you suggest why you think the merit system will work. I see you're the fanboy type and you can write prolifically but you'll never produce anything of value because you yourself haven't defined why you hold your beliefs.


First, you are looking at the wrong indicator, if you believe that my avatar is attempting to send some kind of message to you on this particular topic.

Second, you are whining about this merit system, and sure it is possible that you have convinced a few other whiners to chime in to support you in your complaining cause; however, you have also erroneously attempted to argue that I have some kind of burden to support the status quo system that has been established (this new merit system), when I do not.  

I do not need to provide either evidence or argument regarding why the status quo new merit system is better than some amorphous and unspecified change that you may be proposing (such as going back to pre-change, perhaps?).  

If you are proposing a change to the status quo merit system that has been established, then you have both the evidentiary and the logic burdens of presentation and persuasion to convince others.  For me, your whining has not accomplished much of anything in terms of either evidence or logic, but perhaps others will be more persuaded by your lack of presentation, perhaps Theymos?  Yet I doubt it because I think that Theymos would likely prefer to see more evidence and logic if he is going to make some changes that goes beyond mere whining or attempts to divert discussion through largely irrelevant and unjustified personally attacks.

You use term like whining to address legitimate concerns and have no understanding of the burden of proof. We've addressed our concerns, you offered no rebuttal except juvenile mockery and pseudo-intellectualism. You're really a predictable person, I bet you're even a Libertarian. People who half-understand tend to follow that ideology.

In short, you're a fucking troll and we would all do well just to put you on ignore, you have nothing to offer the world and are incapable of constructive conversation.

I just want to point out to all how much of an idiot fanboy this troll is, click his profile. He says "How much alt coin diversification is necessary? 0%"

With a fanbase like him, BTC is sure to become as irrelevant as these forums will become.


You are really distracted and grasping at straws in your ongoing attempts to bring up all kinds of irrelevant bullshit topics and to attempt to put some kind of burden on me to have to defend various random ad hominem points that you are making.  I am not going to play your little game and pursue your seemingly stream of conscious fantasy discussion.  

Let me repeat my point one more time with some possible hope that your seemingly pea brain might begin to focus on the topic of this thread:   if you believe that the merit system needs to be changed in some kind of way, then you have the burden to provide evidence and logic for the position that you are taking and perhaps clarify what the fuck position that your are taking, in the first place, regarding the merit system.  
19353  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 06:39:36 AM
You drunk fuck..have another.   Cheesy

I clearly spoke of each..well..I clearly implied something about each but I think you misunderstood me. That chart is not a financial graph..its purely about excitement over time. You could say that there is apparent correlation between hype and price but that really wasn't where I was going. Its about when something becomes popular and how long after that fact something useful is developed. I was using the example between the two charts to illustrate how early we really are...still. As far as bitcoin and blockchain..what ever..I get that..they are different. You can yell at me louder if you wish if thats what you want to do tho...
What !!!!!!!
You!!!!!
Talking !!!!!!
About !!!!!!
Willis?!!!!!!




 For some reason, I felt prompted to yell.... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

 Your subsequent explanation seems to concede that we are in the early stages of bitcoin's adoption; however,  I conclude, to my own health detriment, that your chart seems to suggest that we are past the hype cycle in BTC and all matters are downhill from here.. I can see it visually on your chart.   And, from my perspective, I doubt that we are going downhill from here whether we are talking about hype or we are talking about adoption, or we are talking about development or we are talking about financial.
19354  Other / Meta / Re: Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?) on: February 18, 2018, 06:26:49 AM
There seems to be a lot of confusion with this new system, apparently plenty of users spend most of their time in the bitcoin and alt discussions and haven't noticed the change. Also I don't see many users actually getting merrits despite a lit of good quality posts, of course not talking about myself here. Would be interesting to see some real data around that as it might only be my own perception. Any others who noticed that too?


Even for a newly implemented system that is less than a month old, there is a decent amount of information that is publicly available, including a large number of threads on the topic of merits.  

Of course, with some more passage of time, more data will generate to clarify how it is being used, and you may be correct that there are some parts of the forum that use the merits less and likely there are going to be some issues around getting merits down to lower ranks from the upper ranks. 

Some threads have been created to attempt higher ranked members to assist lower ranked members to earn merits to rank up or to at least to petition attention to posts that might not have received as much merits as they might seem to deserve.

Further:  Have you looked at the thread announcing the new merit system?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0

Or, have you looked at the merits stats page that is available to everyone through the merit link that is in their profile page?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats
19355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 04:21:21 AM
The other is much more significant if you care to delve into it. As hype about innovation crests over the peak on it move towards the productivity plateau you can clearly see where we are at with blockchains. The hype about bitcoin arriving is past us now..heading towards that plateau ahead of us in the future. But look what is trailing..how many of these upcoming innovations will need bitcoin and the blockchain to fully realize their potentials? A great many I say..all those next gen apps that we are just now dreaming up use cases for. Whether it be peer to peer decentralized immutable ledgers like bitcoin or permissioned one used for controlling autonomous vehicles lets say. The shear amount of "things" that will benefit from this literally boggles my mind man...

Woops, my bad!!!!   In part, hey if I would have seen "Blockchain" on the first glance at the chart on the other side of the hype peak, I might have rebelled a bit more strongly.. and called your the bear...  Tongue Tongue

Anyhow, whatever the various relationships between technologies, there is going to be symbism between them and they are going to likely feed off of each other in various ways that cannot be predicted with any kind of precision regarding possible winners or losers, including attempting to determine where they are at, exactly, in their own hype curve.

Yeah, there is going to be hype and over hype and under-appreciation of various technologies and their contributions to society and their potentials, but clumping bitcoin in  with "blockchain" and then trying to clump it in with various other technological innovations misses A BIG CHUNK of something that is differentiating about bitcoin specifically in the way that bitcoin is a decentralized system that has NEVER  ever been seen by the world.  That is called paradigm shifting in such a way that various other technologies are going to be playing off of bitcoin - and not really the other way around because bitcoin also has been bred with a honey badger, and does not give a fuck.

Anyhow, before I have an aneurysm, as you implied to be within the realm of possible reasons why you were holding back on my delicate nature a little bit, I will yield for a moment in the event that I may not need to rant any more on this point.. that bitcoin and blockchain are not the same thing.....



HELLLOOO
OOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!










o.k.. couldn't help myself..

I'm good..



I'm good.
19356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 03:24:27 AM
So, when are we going to hit $1,000,000?

Let's project.  Smiley

If we assume the average doubling floor time of 6 months over the last 5 years (including the 2014-2015 bear market):

$20k Aug 2018
$40k Feb 2019
$80k Aug 2019
$160k Feb 2021
$320k Aug 2021
$640k Feb 2022
$1.28MM Aug 2022

Three and a half more years.

If the doubling time persists at 3 months (the approx. average of the last three doublings), then just under two years. Mid 2020.

Wow.




You lot that like to sell your BTC in increments to buy back, take note that you don’t run out.  

Using the numbers above, even should there be no volatility to be harvested (as if), I'm good through 2022.


Hahahahahaha.. jbreher... I don't mean to pick on you or to be stalking you, too much, but are you confessing that you are gonna run out of BTC if BTC prices were to go straight up to $1.28 million?   

I could not really blame you for running out of BTC in that kind of a scenario because seems that no matter what there are going to be some price corrections along the way.. there is almost no such thing as straight up, even going up 5x without a significant price correction wold be quite amazing, but going up from here to $1.28 million would be more than 110x, and surely there would be several pretty decently-sized price corrections in there to help any of us incrementalists to stack up our holdings in order to prepare for BTC price destinations higher than $1.28 million.
19357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 03:09:15 AM


JJG..I see your chart and raise you sir.




Yeah, you raised me into a near total state of bewilderment in my attempt to understand what your chart means in terms of Bitcoin price discussion and analysis, and what is the significance of the bear warning?

Seems to me that we got's ourselves no bears hanging around in these here territories.. They all be hiding under the cupboards, but surely they will be back to spread a little naysaying bear doo doo as soon at there is any kind of sign of this bad boy slowing down.  When?  I have hardly any clue, as usual, but looking good to me, and looking really good.

19358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 02:55:28 AM
Reminds me of my new drinking game. Every morning there isn't a spectacular crashy pull back I take a shot.

Yes, these days without a big pullback have left me with several bids that are being left in the dust. Oh well, each bid only represents about 1% of my holdings, so overall the 99% of my holdings are looking better. I won't be inventing any drinking games though, to celebrate. I have been on the wagon since 2009.


Ultimately, you have to be prepared for the possibility that your buy orders will get left behind forever and ever, and that you are mostly emotionally neutral to the scenario that they get left behind forever and ever.  

If you are not mostly emotional neutral that your buy orders get left behind forever and ever, then you likely are "playing" (trading) with too large amounts, and you need to reduce your amounts until they reach such a level that you are largely emotionally neutral about them getting left behind forever and ever.

The reality of the matter is that in a large number of cases, your buy orders are not going to get left behind forever and ever, but you should not care nor think too much about it...  

By the way, recall that the first time around on the way up from $890 to $19,666 (that took about 9 months to play out), seems like we had a fewer than 5 retracements that were 27% or greater, and I believe that the maximum retracement was 40%-ish in mid-September from $4,980 to $2,970.  So under that actual real life application, there were a lot of folks who left a lot of buy orders on the table on the way up - however, there are ways to deal with such including from time to time, the increments and the amounts of those left behind buy orders can be shuffled around in order to make them much more profitable in the event that a downturn comes and, especially during what ended up being our 70% retracement from $19,666 to $5,921.  And, also, sometimes you can decide to use some of that money and just completely take it off the table in a practice that Rptiella had referred to as "raking" in his SSS thread.
19359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 02:34:56 AM
*sniff*  *sniff*   something in the air..

I think that it is overcooked bear, perhaps?   Cheesy
19360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 02:02:33 AM
inb4 MSM 'The bitcoin bubble is back'
~
(volume is too low) Huh


Fuck!!!!!


From my overview of the situation (whatever the fuck I know?), BTC trade volume looks pretty great, especially for a weekend!!!
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