Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[JayJuanGee]

You drunk fuck..have another.  

I clearly spoke of each..well..I clearly implied something about each but I think you misunderstood me. That chart is not a financial graph..its purely about excitement over time. You could say that there is apparent correlation between hype and price but that really wasn't where I was going. Its about when something becomes popular and how long after that fact something useful is developed. I was using the example between the two charts to illustrate how early we really are...still. As far as bitcoin and blockchain..what ever..I get that..they are different. You can yell at me louder if you wish if thats what you want to do tho...

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 For some reason, I felt prompted to yell....

 Your subsequent explanation seems to concede that we are in the early stages of bitcoin's adoption; however,  I conclude, to my own health detriment, that your chart seems to suggest that we are past the hype cycle in BTC and all matters are downhill from here.. I can see it visually on your chart.   And, from my perspective, I doubt that we are going downhill from here whether we are talking about hype or we are talking about adoption, or we are talking about development or we are talking about financial.

[hv_]

I'll also take the opportunity to rant a bit. Out of those four I mentioned, one is AWOL, one is dead, and the other two are fervent supporters of Bitcoin over BCash. Bitcoin is much more closely aligned with the original cypherpunk principles that elevate privacy and decentralization.

It's not even worth discussing. A forkcoin more or less signed into existence by an agreement of a few commercial enterprises and kept alive by a single conglomerate through the use of dubious tactics...

That was aimed at the handful of bcash supporters/sympathizers here. Are you reading all this jbreher?  

Yep. I simply do not agree that Bitcoin Cash is centralized any more than Bitcoin Segwit in any meaningful way. I realize that there is an oft-repeated narrative that Ver and Wu have made every significant decision in regards to Bitcoin Cash, but this view is utterly ignorant bullshit. And if all y'all would venture outside of this echo chamber of a walled garden, you'd likely realize that latter point as being the truth of the matter

You expect way too much from biased ppl. It is a very hard task to get over the typical position talk most investors are trapped into after they ve done a similar hard decision to invest. It is getting into a cult state and such forum cannot help out much here....

[jojo69]

[rolling]

It is a little mind boggling that anyone would sell during the weekend knowing they could sell for 10-20% more on Monday. Can a bear explain the mentality?

[Ibian]

It is a little mind boggling that anyone would sell during the weekend knowing they could sell for 10-20% more on Monday. Can a bear explain the mentality?

Most people are not super cool trading geniuses like you. That goes for high rollers too.

[PoolMinor]

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Yeah, but who would believe a story like that from a dead guy?

[jojo69]

hmmmmmm

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[Karartma1]

That was a usual Bitcoin drop: I see the Stamp high was $11300 and the low $10333. The 10K mark represents the trench: I think if we go lower that we might be in trouble.
Enjoy your Sunday

[HairyMaclairy]

Care to explain Jojo?  I’m not inclined to click the link.

[Arriemoller]

It's also quite sad that financial literacy isn't being taught in schools, not even electively. And it could be easily taught in playful ways that anybody could pick up on too.

Agreed. But along with basic financial literacy coursework, the book "Rich Dad Poor Dad" should be required reading.

Sometimes I seriously wonder if people have some unconscious desire to be poor and mediocre. I just cannot fathom how somebody could wish to be more than they are without trying to work towards that goal with even the tiniest increments.

People think their careers will save them, that they will never end and their wages will always be increasing to take care of their current and future debts.

Until their career doesn't.

My personal favorite book on this subject is "The richest man in Babylon" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Richest_Man_in_Babylon_(book)

[jojo69]

Care to explain Jojo?  I’m not inclined to click the link.

Yeah, wouldn't recommend it.

It is a huge pile of steaming, stinking, corporate links.

Coinbase is now monetizing their customers data.

This is the first time my scrypt blocker has triggered on coinbase.

[rafanadal]

from 11.2 k to 10.2k
nooooo 

[rafanadal]

I hope we don't go below 10k again.

[HairyMaclairy]

Care to explain Jojo?  I’m not inclined to click the link.

Yeah, wouldn't recommend it.

It is a huge pile of steaming, stinking, corporate links.

Coinbase is now monetizing their customers data.

This is the first time my scrypt blocker has triggered on coinbase.

No offense but why are you even going there?  Or is it at least GDAX?

[RoomBot]

@NODEfather https://twitter.com/NODEfather/status/963860385336999936
On Friday Feb 9, I was arrested in my home by Department Of Homeland Security over a #Bitcoin transaction from nov 2016 and am released under a personal recognizance bond. I am being charged with:
18 USC 1956 - Money Laundering Instrument

Another bitcoiner arrested for selling a small amt of coin. More details in the thread following that tweet.

This is disturbing, but he made a fatal mistake: 

One reply om Twitter noted:

...he did an exchange of over $1000 per day, per person. Over that limit and you are operating as an unlicensed Money Service Business. Penalty can be 5 years in federal prison for each offense. Registration is free and 2 pages long.

$150,000-$300,000 in legal fees, Crikey!

Donate to his legal fund: 1PED8foZJ4d8T1cSD37U1mr81VWJZiE7ns

[HairyMaclairy]

The average transaction fee on Bcash is now more expensive than the average transaction fee on Bitcoin.

[RoomBot]

It seems the transaction was done in 2016. I am sure they will just have to review his tax report, check the transaction was properly accounted for and everything will be fine.

Btw, what's up with legal fees in USA? He estimates his lawyers fees will be $150K-$300K?

If he had an actual lawyer he wouldn't be tweeting like a moron.

Yeah, plus accepting & using crypto for legal fees seems a bit counter-intuitive.

He's been living off the Fed Reserve Grid and Big Brother doesn't tolerate that.

Still, I appreciate the heads-up.  If you can't be a brilliant example, the next best thing is to be a tragic dumpster fire warning.

[RoomBot]

Now is it not soo Funny ..echa?!  

more tax wil comming.. also here bitcointalk have users who leave some interesting "message" about not paying tax..

taxation without representation is . . . . .. living in Washington, DC.

FTFY

Ironic, no?

[jojo69]

The average transaction fee on Bcash is now more expensive than the average transaction fee on Bitcoin.

Oh god, that's rich...ha   ha    hahahahahahahaHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


and yeah, GDAX, but that's not the point; I am quite sure that that session id and nonce would point all those corporate banks, paypal, amazon, etc. to my ACTUAL IDENTITY as known by coinbase

[RoomBot]

this thread is sucking dog balls right now

wtf?

Did you think that threads could somehow be perma bull markets ?

How could they have known without the internet? You believe that in Kansas they knew about what was going on?

So no communication existed before the internet? Is that what you're implying?

I've met folks who think the universe was concocted 6 thousand years ago but you're way more fun. Please tell us more.

Even with the internet around today, the vast majority of people still doesn't know about the most basic facts about how modern society has come to be.

the hamster spins and spins... never realizing that he hadn't moved... then died.

Jeez. Waste of space.
 ignored.