I wish they just did crowdfunding for paykey instead of getgems, investors would get much more success.
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Augur, Waves, Bitcoin.
please can you tell us how did you invest in Augur, I dont seem to find a website or forum related to Augur Augur crowdsale was over a year ago, but it's not released yet.
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I'm interesting in Waves asset to asset trading, which seems to allow trading against USD on blockchain. If it works well i think it will get the most volume from all other exchanges, because of the USD trading pair. I hope it can handle the volume. My question is when it will be ready?
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Who knows? It depends a lot on the market conditions when it starts trading, as well as the FOMO level 'round here. As long as enough folks get the idea that WAVES is the new Lisk & Ethereum, there'll be a big pop after trading starts.
Waves isn't the new Lisk, its different and more interesting for my taste.
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1 wave = 653 USD more realistic ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) When 1 BTC = 10k yeah then Wave will also be $653 / each ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Maybe waves will be over 100$ if btc is 10 000, that seems pretty realistic. For early on I think we can expect 1-5 dollar range. I sing the 1-5 $ range at the beginning ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) It mostly depends on the devs, if they deliver then $1+ is easily reachable. by the end of the year ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .(Edited) Might be sooner than that.
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If devs deliver $1+ easily reachable.
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1 wave = 653 USD more realistic ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) When 1 BTC = 10k yeah then Wave will also be $653 / each ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Maybe waves will be over 100$ if btc is 10 000, that seems pretty realistic. For early on I think we can expect 1-5 dollar range. I sing the 1-5 $ range at the beginning ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) It mostly depends on the devs, if they deliver then $1+ is easily reachable.
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so which exchange is wave going to be released? Was thinking of yobit as well or maybe poloniex. but damn sure yobit has tons of users who would probably join the trade. He'll I've been trading there for over a year. i just don't listen to those trolls in the troll box.
Sasha is in good contact with Polo as he has some of his NXT assets listed there already from longer time. We will be contacting many exchanges when the time is right. Support is appearing in different parts of the world also https://twitter.com/huobicom/status/720811157624393729Nice to hear from Huobi.
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I invested in the waves ico but I changed my mind and want my bitcoin back.
How can I get a refund?
How much did you invest? If possible I can buy them ... If you got them on the first day.... The question to admin: it is possible to do transfer from one account to another now? Thats a good idea and question, @ pannametta how many waves you have?
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I invested in the waves ico but I changed my mind and want my bitcoin back.
How can I get a refund?
U had to make a new account for that?
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Question is will polo list waves while mainnet isnt released yet, since waves would be allowed to be transferred to other wallet when sale ends. I guess until mainnet, trading can be done on waves platform?
I think another exchange going to list waves until mainnet goes live which polo then can add it.
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Reading more on Waves if everything works as mentioned it might just be the next one to hit a billion marketcap.
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If Waves is an decentralised fiat-crypto exchange what function does Waves-token have? Is it anything special with Waves-token?
Waves token is not just for trading. Waves token will be the fuel of the whole platform and all operations happening there. When you will be trading with other crypto currencies or fiat which will be represented there as tokens, Waves token will be used, when you are transferring assets, Waves token is used, when you are withdrawing asset in form of currency to your wallet, Waves token is used. When someone is issuing the asset Waves token is used. When all other projects will be using Waves platform, the same Waves token will be used for all their operations. Other currencies will be just supported on the platform. I know personally lot of projects already which will move to the Waves platform.
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This all doesnt say its value when its on the exchange and mainnet is ready, these prices are extremely low, so low that x100 is possible.
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How many btc do you think ico will receive? 20.000 will be a very good score!
Thats too much, roughly 7-10K is my estimate. Yeah I'm thinking about this amount too. Im guessing 6000 to 8000 BITCOINS hopefully after the ICO ends, thats a good number. How many time must it be said here.. WHY is everyone hoping for a BIG NUMBER. DOn't u know simple MATH . The higher the price (Total BTC Raised) the MORE you end up paying (price per WAVE) .. Remember for the 10 Thousandth time The more people invest the LESS coins u get makes it the MOST EXPENSIVE (Cost u PAY per Wave) ICO ever. The more the ICO can raise, the more BTC will be available for the Waves team to develop and market the coin. This will be better for the coin's health in the long run. Unless this ICO is just another cash grab like so many we have all seen before... Also, when this coin comes to market, no one with half a brain is going to initially dump their coins at a loss. If someone wants to play the market at that point and play ping pong or whatever to make BTC, they are going to need to set their bids high enough to lure some folks who bought into the ICO to dump. Waves token is not just for trading. Waves token will be the fuel of the whole platform and all operations happening there. When you will be trading with other crypto currencies or fiat which will be represented there as tokens, Waves token will be used, when you are transferring assets, Waves token is used, when you are withdrawing asset in form of currency to your wallet, Waves token is used. When someone is issuing the asset Waves token is used. When all other projects will be using Waves platform, the same Waves token will be used for all their operations. Other currencies will be just supported on the platform. I know personally lot of projects already which will move to the Waves platform. I was about to ask this, thank you. I predict $2 reach or even more.
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Polo should indeed be a priority amongst other exchanges cus i would imagine waves going to be attracting lot of volume, btw nice job on the fiat and plugin idea.
Poloniex surely is top priority when talking about exchanges. It's probably good to point out that Poloniex already hosts a BTC market for Sasha's business Coinomat ( https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_cnmt) and used to host one for his asset MMNXT (not anymore due to a merge with another asset). So, connections exist for quite a while now ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Even better.
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I think thats more than Augur, which raised around 4700.
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The problem here appears to be incompatible cultures.
Wow! What a politically correct post! No more "USA is superior and all Russians are crooks" vibe? It seems my words have penetrated that wall of insanity in your head. Yeah I really wanted to reply to this too. But, I won't post in this thread, before Charles and Alex do A difference in culture doesn't necessarily imply someone is a crook. What I have observed thus far since I got into crypto-currency (which has been my first exposure to Russians and Eastern Europeans), many of you on this forum appear to have a different system of values than we typically do in the USA and not just about investments. Someone even said your governments had a law against everything, so they learned that laws are made to be broken. Whereas, Americans (perhaps excluding inner city poverty regions) are generally under the impression that a lawful society is a more just and well-functioning society. The defensive way you reacted to my speculation is I think quite telling. You accuse me when it is both of you who are selling, marketing, promoting, or defending the selling of ICOs to USA n00bs in defiance of our securities laws. I didn't make that decision for you. It might just be a statistical fluke (small sample size) that we have a high correlation between developers from that Communist culture involved with public ICOs which haven't blacklisted USA n00bs (which our law appears to require). I'd respect you both much more if you were out there creating great software, raising money from private placement to launch profitable ventures, then selling stocks through the legal venues such as Seedr. Or I'd respect you both for doing pure open source contribution not for profit, if that is your preference. But I don't respect the marriage of software development with Pink Sheet stock speculation. Software development isn't fly-by-night gold and silver mining companies and other crap listed on the Pink Sheets. And those listed on the Pink Sheets do at least abide by our securities laws. When Charles says you don't yet have the governance structure set up, I presume he is alluding to the fact that you ostensibly don't even have an attorney advising you properly. And I don't blame him for not wanting his reputation to be associated with entirely unregulated selling of " slices of the next big thing" to unsophisticated investors who can't discern technological fact from hype. I don't personally have anything against Russian culture (I'm even a bit curious about it). But if I continue to see that people from (former) Communist countries don't have basic common sense about how to operate in the international business arena on any scale other than some fly-by-night promotions, then I will eventually start to be forewarned about being cautious. I can post a huge rant here later, addressing your ideas, it's just it would be off-topic. I apologized to Charles, would be cool to see some reaction from him too. Nice gesture, Charles could show the same now.
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