I have no reason to defend or explain anything, especially in regards to an irrelevant and not interesting or challenging topic.  You want to talk about some stupid ass topic that you are interested in to distract from the thread, perhaps?  How does the topic relate to the thread?    Therefore, I am not interested... except to merely label you as irrelevant lacking focus, perhaps.

Don't be fucking ridiculous to pursue this trivial and distracting topic.  I have already seen that you have demonstrated your own variety of limitations in thinking too, in your defending a variety of bigoted concepts with simplistic frameworks.  A large majority of the time, there would be little to no fruitfulness to engage in any kind of way with your attempts at interaction that tend to be inciting without meaningful contribution.   

Even if we create a list of the government agents, we won't be able to determine if we got it right or if the list makers ended up being the govt agents making shit up. 


TLDR:  We are all fucked!

ChartBuddy works in this thread.  It is just that no one has wanted to take that job.  I bet if anyone were to take that job and start providing ChartBuddy, or some other similarly named service that is similar to ChartBuddy, that person would likely earn a lot of merit with the passage of time.  

I personally would have done something to make a chartbuddy if either 1) I had skills in that direction or 2) I wanted to learn how to acquire such skills.   I really fail in both of those areas of 1) and 2).  

Come on, d-eddie.  Snap the fuck out of it.

You seem to be giving way too much weight to TA and predictions that are based on science or some kind of supposed inevitability.   

Sure, once something happens, that particular something becomes 100%, but just because some folks predicted it to happen does not mean that they knew that it was going to happen or that the thing was inevitable to happen.. .because there could have been some monkey wrench that gets thrown into the situation that ends up totally fucking up the whole outcome....

Sure, we can give a certain amount of weight and credit to TA for helping us to sort out probabilities of one scenario versus another scenario, but in the end, these guys with the fucking charts are also pointing out probabilities of one scenario that they believe to be more likely than another scenario, but the smart (and genuine) ones are going to also acknowledge the various scenarios of the other direction too.. whether they assign the other direction 40% or 20% or cockily assign it only 10%....   

Furthermore, we also know that TAs are frequently wrong too, and you remember when a lot of the TA fucks were calling another leg down at $890 in early 2017... well that did not happen... and a lot of peeps lost money when they were relying on that specific TA and there are other situations as well, especially in bitcoin with our exponential curve going on that has fucked a lot of downside predictors over and over and over. 

So yeah, we can figure out ways to make more money by following TA (whether accumulating bitcoin or dollars), but we may end up losing money too if we make some bad bets while using TA and we don't play the upsides and the downsides of our bets in a reasonable kind of amount and ratios....

In other words, fuck those peeps who are claiming that they predicted anything and saying, I told you so, I told you so.  Fuck them. 

And, you want to know how I really feel?  hahahahaha

This has happened to me quite frequently.  You just  happen to have your order at the reversing point.  I think that it is good sign.

Sometimes the remaining portion fo the order does end up getting filled, but frequently when an order gets partially filled, I get a kind of feeling of how much of a "genius" I am in terms of my order placement... sometimes, I cancel the remaining and sometimes I will just leave it and see if it later gets filled.  If I leave it, then frequently, I will set a partial contrary order, just to cover myself on both and it becomes more fun, because I feel that I get an additional opportunity to make some extra money by setting another partial order on the other end and then just wait to see which one fills first.  That part is like a game, and fun and generally profitable, no matter what.

It is not that small if you cannot find evidence to support your smallness theory.  

You are starting to sound like some other conspiracy theorist (who I will not name at the moment), but who had a theory that all the fucking exchanges were controlled by a few peeps...

Fucking ridiculous..

Yeah, sure I will agree that bitcoin and crypto are relatively small, but you cannot assume to many things merely based on knowing that it is small in some ways that it is so fucking small to support some kind of claim that the same person is doing x, y and z...   That is just showing both a lack of evidence and a lack of logic that ends up rising to the level of wishful thinking.

You seem to have your own "limited" thinking, if you cannot imagine ways in which free speech can be limited and still be free.. go figure.  Based on some of your previous posts, this current position of yours that is not willing or able to circumscribe the concept of "free" does not surprise me.

Yeah, but we are not competing against each other? 

Can't we already create a trading contest with ourselves to compete with ourselves in order to later verify if we can reach goals that we have set for ourselves?

A picture is worth a thousand words, and your two pictures are worth about 1050 words, especially since the second picture only extrapolates on the first.

It's a decent outline - but I get a sense that your pictures do not tell enough of the likely muddy story... especially if we are just talking about bitcoin as compared with figuring out what role alts have in the short/long term performance of bitcoin. I certainly do not have any better hypothesis than the general framework of your pics.

Do you have any evidence for this claim that these online personas are the same person?  We are not in that small of a world, are we?

If so we need a song:  "It's a small world after all... repeat...  blah blah blah."

I am not a blow in the winds kind of poster... unless I am throwing in a bit of sarcasm just to have some fun.

There are a few posters who post to talk their book or to pump other coins, and both you and Tera fall into this category in terms of your past behaviors... so actions speak louder than words, and sometimes, you just go overboard in terms of your agenda..

My agenda is generally bullish about bitcoin and that is why I bought into it in the first place and continue to believe in its long term solid fundamental.. and I generally believe in the process that is bringing about continued strong changes in bitcoin and sometimes its needs to fight off misinformation and attacks.

On the other hand, sometimes when the price goes down, it can be good to employ certain strategies to protect yourself within bitcoin.. and I am talking strictly bitcoin rather than getting diverted into strategies that embrace bitcoin attack vectors such as bcash or some other nonsense while proclaiming that you are protecting bitcoin while you are attacking it.

So, yeah sometimes BTC's price goes down and sometimes the downwards momentum is such that it seems most prudent to agree that more down is going to happen, and even to give odds to whether the bottom is in that are attempts to be accurate assessments rather than wishful thinking.

I would not go after bears, merely for the fact that they are bears, as long as they are providing useful and helpful information that is not misleading.. . but sometimes it is necessary to call a spade a spade when we are able to identify misleading information and purposefully misleading information.


You can speak for yourself and perhaps your own possible "guilt".. but I am going to deny.. especially if some characteristic(s) of me (or my online persona) is being spun from folks like Tera bera and Jbreher bera...   look - we have just discovered that they are related.....

I saw that you went to 100, but 101 would be better... hahahahahaa

Anyhow.. on a more serious note.  I believe that the fact that you went to a larger number of data points has to do with the subconscious message that many of us BTC HODLers understand, and that is that this bull run is not likely ended, yet (and I believe it is not just wishful thinking, but instead that the whole crypto space - and of course more importantly bitcoin - has too many positive things going on currently), so it is quite likely that we are soon again going to be in the ATH territory. 

I am thinking 3-10 months - would likely capture a new hitting of ATHs - but of course.. none of us knows the future with any kind of certainty and we can just kind of go based on various aspects that we do know (and sure a bit of faith in there, too).

I'm not done buying either  - but I think that we already had enough down.  I would rather go back up.

Regarding shaking out the weak hands and maybe shaking some of these shitty ass Alts/ICOs and scams, further downward could be helpful in that direction, but such a scam shaking scenario would likely need a year or more to play out.. so personally, I would prefer to kick such can down the road until after our next Bitcoin and tag along crypto pump.

Actually, Jbreher.  I had thought that Last of the V8 had no fucking basis at all for his shot in the dark last grasp at a USG govt assertion, so I totally shrugged off his claim.

However, now that you so vehemently defended various angles for why you are in "no way" affiliated with USG in any kind of way whatsoever, I am becoming more convinced that there has to be some kind of a USG connection there, somehow... someway.  New tentative theory has gotta be that picnic food eating bear is not really in the food stealing business, but instead part of dee gubmint.     and we better alert Torque to this new tentative theory, because surely he would be skillful at getting at the bottom of it...  A problem with Torque, though, is that he prefers to come up with his own theories  ..

Seems like a fairly nice and steady upwards, perhaps getting us back above $10k.. but that would be too optimistic, it seems.

A more likely scenario seems that we may have a kind of battle or mini-battle in the $9500+ territory to find out whether we are going back above $10k or not.. Maybe the first one or two attempts to get above $10k will be unsuccessful, but I do have  a sense shtat we are returning above $10k soon.. maybe in less than 6 weeks - yet we also still have to see how much drama bcash is going to be able to muster up through anarcapulco pumpening simultaneous with a spam attack and whether any of that could have any legs that could interfere with some BTC momentum... the ETH flippening FUD seems to have died down, for the moment, too, but there can be some of that going on in the near future, and I would not doubt some ICO/ERC 20 issues.. that could cut both ways in terms of possible interference with BTC price momentum - to the possible upside.

Usually, I am not so lucky to buy at the bottom, but this time, all four of my buy orders filled right around $6k... so could not expect much better than that.

So that seems to be a kind of a lucky coincidence.

On the other hand, I am really looking forward to getting back above $14k-ish.. because right now my orders are feeling so spread out in terms of percentage ($1k increments) that it takes a lot longer for them to fill.. and much more likelihood that the price could get stuck in limbo between orders (causing me to make less money); however, if we get above $14k, then it becomes a whole hell-of-a-lot easier (in terms of percentages) to move the price $1k in a shorter period of time and also easier to hit the orders on a regular basis...

It is like I do not want to go into trading retirement.. even though I do.. I am continuing to move into a state that it my orders are going to likely fill less frequently, and perhaps looking forward to the day that it takes a week or more for any of my orders to fill - which I believe is quite a bit of time into the future before such state (of BTC day trading) quasi-retirement from "day trading" is reached for me.

I'm too busy unsuccessfully attempting to scold you for prancing around the thread in your play of a quasi-bull role...

but yeah, it is seeming fairly likely that you have been correct in your own assertions that continued talk about more downward BTC price movements is just coming off as unrealistic given the intensity of the ongoing price battle and the decent ongoing trade volume that seems to be pushing our current bouncing up.

I still will not be inclined to feel any semblance of meaningful relief regarding the bottom is in until prices get back securely above $10k.

I still think that it is a fair speculation from me to suggest that there are a lot of WO thread participants who regularly lose sleep over crypto price movements.... whether bitcoin, or some alt/ICO or combinations of them... .loosing both sleep and productivity in other areas of life.... bringing balance is not easy, and there can be a constant sucking in.. even if some of that sucking in has positive consequences... for example, having access to a subject matter (crypto/bitcoin) that is interesting for you ("us").

Yep... it's an issue.... probably for a certain high percentage of us... hopefully, I am not overusing the royal "we" here.