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1961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are ICOs really DEAD or simply cleared a path for better projects? on: November 21, 2019, 03:39:45 AM
I have return from investing with ICO because almost one years no one ICO give profitable for investor, maybe effect of bitcoin and altcoin have lower price make many ICO failed for listing above ICO price on exchange market, I will looking other way how to get profit with bitcoin and altcoin investing without use ICO way, I think there are many chance to get profit with bitcoin without have invest only with ICO project.
1962  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think that governments might one day ban Cryptos? on: November 21, 2019, 03:12:09 AM
Considering that the governments such as China have already tried to ban Cryptos. Would more governments do the same because Cryptos threaten the banks or the governments may want more control over what people use as currency and to remove all alternatives? What do you guys think, I personally think it won’t happen, but you might think otherwise.

When bitcoin and crypto never got scam many people I think no country want to banned bitcoin as investment assets, they still trust with bitcoin become profitable assets for the future because many investor have raise profit with bitcoin, maybe later many feature with bitcoin by adopting as currency payment and make country friendly want to adopt bitcoin as legal transaction payment.
1963  Economy / Economics / Re: Does China Control Bitcoin? on: November 21, 2019, 01:31:47 AM
This question does not have a clear answer. The United States and China, as the largest economic powers, have their own levers of influence, but we should definitely not talk about control. I personally am not sure that China is intentionally trying to control bitcoin. I personally am not sure that China is deliberately trying to control the bitcoin, but will not completely abandon the leverage.
Although China and United State are largest economic power they can control how to make bitcoin on higher or lower price, look last three weeks later when bitcoin up after good announcement from China president want to adopt bitcoin as legal transaction and what happen after Trump president tweet bad side of bitcoin where giving bad effect with price bitcoin goes down. I think China have power to control with bitcoin and altcoin price.
1964  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM ICOs, what we can do? on: November 21, 2019, 01:07:05 AM
I cant refer to dumped IEO projects as scam at the moment, especially those on the highly rated exchanges. The FUD this year was bad and FOMO around bitcoin pump brought a bad effect on altcoin in general. IEO could have been involved in price manipulation but more resourceful strategy for adoption is engaged. We have seen more partnerships and better scrutiny of project teams and idea.

IEO projects can't be considered as an adoption to crypto world actually. They just been release for the sole purpose of trading. How many projects that comes from an IEO has a real use case or even develop their own platform to use in some application? I can only know of BitTorrent as one of the useful in them, also matic and top network but other than this. I can't find relevance on mass adoption aside from trading.
After ICO scam many people move investing to IEO but now IEO have the same with ICO because always lower price after listing on exchange market, you have many way to get profit by investing with new coin already listed on exchange market, but never invest whit shit coin because you can faced the same risk like ICO, you can buy altcoin have potential with higher price.
1965  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Preparing for a recession... Gold or Bitcoin? on: November 20, 2019, 09:46:19 AM
I don't want to open up another gold vs bitcoin thread. I'm just curious because I read an article that discussed whether we should be preparing ourselves for an upcoming recession by buying bitcoin or gold:


https://cryptotradernews.com/cryptocurrency/preparing-for-a-recession-bitcoin-or-gold/


Thoughts?


I think the next recession won't be as big as the 2008 one (which, to me was a depression). Hence I'll stick with Bitcoin for now.
I keep investing with bitcoin than gold because bitcoin have profitable than gold, I know gold have no risk with lower price but need long term waiting for gold have higher price, different with bitcoin can raise to higher price by few days but can be down suddenly, if not ready when bitcoin goes down better keep invest your money with gold than bitcoin.
1966  Economy / Economics / Re: World debt and currency reset on: November 20, 2019, 04:49:49 AM
Governments can actually do whatever that they want, the can decide to forgive bad debts and even redenominate their entire currency whenever that they want. Because they control the central bank of their respective countries. Take a look at the economy of Zimbabwe which is in tatters because of poor economy management. They had to redenominate their currency just to prevent people carrying a bus load of money just to buy bread.
Government looks not serious with crypto world because have big risk if legal using digital currency payment, how come if their people buy bitcoin with higher price and suddenly drop to lower maybe many people will fault government why have to legal using bitcoin as transaction payment, with bitcoin price can't control and stable make government still illegal using bitcoin as currency.
1967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Saving for a House! on: November 20, 2019, 04:13:54 AM
I think it is not good to save money in crypto because it is very risky, in my opinion saving in a bank is safer than crypto, something happens in the bank then the bank's responsibility. If it's in crypto, then you have to accept it gracefully if it happens that you don't want it, then a better down payment for a bank house is much safer.
Or even stable coins are still vulnerable to risk.
I agree with you. The best way is to keep fiat in the bank and limit crypto savings because the constant volatility of the market will make you very difficult. When I was profitable I often switched to Fiat and spent more than 10% of my profits on bank deposits because this is the only place you can trust at this time. Of course, save money to buy a house, you need to have great patience.
If you buy correct altcoin for investing maybe you can get profit, how come if choose bad altcoin and you have lost your house, we don't know how to prediction with bitcoin and altcoin price at the future, better looking other your source income for investing with bitcoin and altcoin because I think is best solution how to keep your house safety from investing.
1968  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People are underutilizing Bitcoin on: November 20, 2019, 01:25:18 AM
'Keeping it' is not also the best option to utilize the use of bitcoin. Just like with fiat, it's not really that ideal to collsct money because they have to be in the circulation. And with bitcoin, bitcoin won't work if we're just keeping it. It has to be used in transactions. Though it's really not the purpose of bitcoin, converting it to fiat, but it cannot really support everyone since there's no enough stores accepting bitcoin so we have to adjust to it.
Bitcoin have feature than other fiat currency because inflation price of bitcoin self, other fiat currency always have inflation value although you hold for long term and several years later, but with bitcoin as fiat currency you can increase your earning when bitcoin price have goes up, always recommended using bitcoin as fiat currency.
1969  Economy / Economics / Re: Your Source of Investment Money? on: November 20, 2019, 01:05:01 AM
I am freelancer and earned a few bucks through ICO campaigns back in 2016-2017.
This is the money I invested in BItcoin and started trading back in 2017. In that year if you look at the market, prices went parabolic and I guess everyone was able to make fortune out of their investment be it bitcoin or altcoins. I was fortunate enough to make trading profit during that time and invested that back in the market. I lost some in 2018. But that experience did teach me trading and now I am earning decently enough through trading cryptos.
2016 and 17 were good days for sure. When the market was not full of scams and people had ways to earn bucks by joining signature campaigns or participating into ICOs. Good to see that you were one of the earlier bounty hunters, somehow. Moreover, you made a very good use of your earned money. No act can be more beneficial than investing in bitcoin. You did it in very sensitive market time. Losses give us important lessons so smile.
When bitcoin have down many ICO failed and give effect for bounty hunter where not worth joining signature campaign or other campaign, last 2017 we can earn much altcoin and have higher price after trading active, but now we are only receiving small amount of bounty reward and have lower price after selling on market.
1970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Top Cryptocurrencies to Invest in 2020 on: November 19, 2019, 06:51:28 AM
The year 2019 is reaching its brink. 2019 was an average year for the crypto market. The market capitalization took a drastic change and the prices of most of the cryptocurrencies crashed. However, the crypto market is sort of leaning towards the green region in the last quarter of 2019.

Now, you might be pondering which cryptocurrencies are considered as a “Good Investment” in the upcoming 2020.
In my view Bitcoin, Ethereum, Ripple (XRP), Litecoin, Bitcoin Cash are the top crypto in 2020.

What's your take on this?

by 2020 bitcoin is heading for halving and will definitely be the top cryptocurrency and for altcoin it might be Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash, XLM and BNB
Waiting for bitcoin halving in 2020 how to increase bitcoin and altcoin price become higher or lower, maybe many people think bitcoin and altcoin have higher price during when bitcoin halving time, but I am not sure right now many altcoin have lower price and bitcoin keep down. Last announce waiting when bitcoin have effect for halving with price still down.
1971  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 3 Things You like To learn on: November 19, 2019, 04:00:41 AM
For me, the TRANSPARENCY.

As other I can see on some content about cryprocurrency especially in Bitcoin, some are misleading and it causes FUD (just what other said).
And there are some content just to make pump and dump schemes using news, like partnership shits. Because some project are only mentioned by some big companies and it is telling that they have been partnered, something like that
Same to be honest, I really want to see the transparency in the future related to bitcoin and about cryptos in general. Like you've said, spreading FUDs causes a lot of problems usually to bitcoin regarding the price and bitcoin's value. People should just be transparent and just share always the truth about bitcoin and not being sneaky and spreading lies to let bitcoin disappears.

Transparency is most important thing with bitcoin and altcoin investing, many investment project not transparent with how much token supply before listing on exchange market like IEO or ICO project, they always give fake information before and after coin listing on market where give effect price down after active for trading on exchange.
1972  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you use FB's Libra? on: November 19, 2019, 03:24:07 AM


With so many controversies arising from this tech giant's ambitious actions, we never truly asked the most important question.

Would the people actually use Libra should it be approved by the congress?
I would use Libra coin if have announce to investor, I am glad waiting when Libra coin can be invest because looking which one can give big chance to get profit with investing, I think Libra coin become popular and bigger investment when launching to public with many people have waiting for when Libra open investment for public.
1973  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: waiting for altcoin season might take time on: November 19, 2019, 01:58:43 AM
The altcoin season will not come so soon, and especially we are facing the bull run is not come until now. Maybe we need to wait for more, and we need to be patient to wait for that. But I believe that the altcoin season will come again, and the market will rise back like before. In that time, maybe the situation will be different than 2017 because bitcoin price will almost be halving, and that will impact the bitcoin price itself. And for the altcoin, there will be a time to increase so high than in 2017 because the altcoin price will follow the bitcoin price. So prepare your altcoin for the next bull run, and don't wait to invest in any coins.

I agree with what you say, that for altcoins just have to wait for time and a little patience, Better buy altcoins from now for long term investments. Because Altcoins will return to rise in price as of 2017.
Altcoin return price the same as 2017 I think need time and we have wait for two years but altcoin price still down, nothing can do it how to raise up altcoin price at the other time bitcoin keep lower, how ever looking altcoin on the higher price we need moment to see bitcoin on the top price, without like this less chance to get profit with altcoin have higher price.
1974  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What Will You Do To Recover Bitcoin? on: November 19, 2019, 01:33:27 AM
I don't think there is a way to recover your bitcoin. because most likely the website has taken over the coin because you are not active on the website and that has been happening for quite a while. You also forgot about the registration email and password so I think it's impossible to access your bitcoin.
we can make this story a lesson that we must always store and remember well our keywords and wallets or the sites we use to store our bitcoins. and I suggest if making long-term investments we should save our bitcoin in a hardware wallet.
OP probably made a mistake there and this should be a lesson to him the next time. And trying to remember or recover your lost account on a site is a kind of frustrating if you don't have a single clue where to start. I might have quit it since I don't even remember a single name for username and password. This is a lesson learn mistakes besides 2010 is not so famous about Bitcoin during that day.
When I lost my assets with increase price down I only hold and waiting when altcoin assets back to higher price and give profit for me, I think always have chance to see our assets have higher price later but waiting is not easy, mus ready more than fours weeks come and see our altcoin assets have higher price.
1975  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest in BTC vs Invest in Real Estate? on: November 18, 2019, 04:51:08 PM
In my opinion, bitcoin and real estate are profitable and promising investment choices, but both must be based on sufficient knowledge and large capital and if you have a lot of capital, you don't have to put all your eggs in one basket.
both have different risk appetites, but if the comparison of returns or bitcoin profits will be faster than real estate that takes more than a year.
Both bitcoin and real estate are profitable but I am not use all my money investing with bitcoin, many people only talking with profit after investing on bitcoin and altcoin, but why never discuss when bitcoin drop how much investor money lost with buy on higher sell with lower price, never find discussing when bitcoin down and how to back up our investing back to profit.
1976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: how do you identify a transparent project team? on: November 18, 2019, 05:04:12 AM
Finding transparent ico is difficult now, because as you said it uses a different identity and what's worse is that they hire homeless people to be their front and captor all the blame of the member of scam campaign.
So investing today in an ICO is like a gamble that sometimes you win and lose.
Almost ICO never transparent with their team and owner always use fake data for publishing to their investor, we got many ICO use other information to make investor interested with their ICO or IEO project. Some ICO never give transparent coin sold detail to public whit how much their coin sold and how much money collected from ICO investment.
1977  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Never possible earn free bitcoin without work. on: November 18, 2019, 03:43:10 AM

Ways of earning bitcoin? Well, there's a lot of it you can use for you to earn bitcoin. Actually you can study it by yourself and apply it with your full intelligence. Since your money is involved here you should consider this as a 50/50 game because its either you win or you lose, but you should win that is our goal. There's a lot of ways you can earn. The first one is that you can invest in some projects here and earn when the project went successful, you can also mine bitcoin but it is not easy because you should have some rigs for you to mine bitcoin. You can also support bitcoin by joining a particular ICO and do a promotion and a particular ICO will pay you.

There's a lot of option there, what we need to do is to find ways how are we going to make those option to be one of our source of income, I suggest we should do the things that is fit to our time, and capabilities. If we want to earn, we should extend effort to it, not just going to a war without any weapon and training, so it is a must whatever we want to do in our life for us to be able to earn income.
Me, I don’t believe in anything that is called free, because ay free thing comes with its own cost and I remember when I was playing all these free spin stuff of freebitcoin.co I think and I gathered some satoshis, the smart people also came up with a strategy that made me loose, most of the coins that I have earned in the past and this is how other sites have treated me to, so I have come to realized that if you are to have a cryptocurrency that will stay in your hand for a long time and be useful for you, you have to rally work hard for it, and for me, most of the ways that I do earn some coins are just to be trading for it and to be offering services that I know I can render to some of these freelance jobs that will pay for your work in cryptocurrency.
Earn free altcoin without working impossible because many people always work hard to get payment from airdrop and bounty campaign are giving free altcoin by doing their task, we have working for getting the bounty and airdrop coin, without success doing task we can't ear altcoin by free. Now when you said can earn altcoin free without working I can't trust your words.
1978  Economy / Economics / Re: finding investors on: November 18, 2019, 01:22:40 AM
Having a very good idea is not the garanteeu to get investors interested. They look for a lot many factors, including the prevailing market sentiments, viability of the project, legal aspects, long-term survival, potential competition, rate of return and team composition. Only if you could satisfy all these parameters, investors will be willing to consider your project.
Many ICO or IEO project not garanteeu with higher price of their coin investing and hard looking for investor want to invest with their project. Many investor not happy with ICO and IEO today because always have lower price after listing on exchange market, when ICO and IEO give profit back I think easy to ask investor join with ICO and IEO again.
1979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: how to earn free altcoin ?? on: November 18, 2019, 12:48:06 AM
besides following airdrop there is also a bounty available to get some altcoin for free. airdrop is usually easier and faster to get it. bounty needs quite a long time.
Now many airdrops require KYC, and rarely do airdrops have an average price for airdrops that I get at no cost and rarely enter the market. and sometimes the airdrop also needs some money to withdraw it
I am not interested with airdrop needed KYC because my document data is most expensive than reward from KYC coins, I think only available for joining airdrop with sumbit KYC on upbit exchange account because there are really trusted site and have higher reward value coin for KYC airdrop participants, other site better not participated.
1980  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happen to Bitcoin if there is a global economic crash? on: November 17, 2019, 05:18:32 AM
Bitcoin will stay where it is even with or without global economic crash. Bitcoin is not driven and influenced by the economic progress of our world because it only relies on the basic law of demand and supply. As people will invest more in bitcoin then the price will go up and it will continue to have a progress throughout the years.

When those that right now have Bitcoin will lose their jobs and they will have to eat they will need to use their Bitcoins for that. And not buy more Bitcoin as they are doing now when their paycheck is always there. Economic crash influence value or any asset.
Ii think not because bitcoin depend with their self without need support from economic world, today no one institution help and promote about bitcoin but price of bitcoin keep stable with higher price, when world economic crash I think bitcoin keep exist on higher price with many investor around the world make investing with bitcoin and altcoin.
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