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1961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Zcash on: October 06, 2017, 06:58:04 PM
Recent experimentation on my Aorus GTX 1080ti came up with the following Afterburner settings for "fairly efficient" mining.

 TDP 75% (188 watts more or less).
 CORE +150
 Memory +100

 resulting in right around 700 sol/s



 I do wish folks would stop just posting "TDP %" figures, as they are MEANINGLESS without the card involved, or what the actual WATT figure ends up at.
 This is PARTICULARLY true for GTX 1070 cards that can range from 151 watt factory TDP (all FE cards, many lower-end cards including the Gigabyte ITX/Zotac Mini/EVGA SC Black/MSI "Aero" ITX) to 240 watt factory TDP (the MSI "Armor" model that has 2 PCI-E power connectors).

 It's ENTIRELY possible for my "80% TDP' figure on that MSI card to be HIGHER than YOUR "100% TDP" figure on many other GTX 1070 cards or even some GTX 1080 models (which start at 180 watts).

1962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: October 06, 2017, 06:49:18 PM
385.69
The latest available on the nVidia site

Try 823.33. That driver solved all of our nvidia rig problems like magic. Smiley
Official link: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/119399/en-us

 382.33, for those that are Tyop impaired.

 9-)

1963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FutureBit Moonlander 2: The Most Powerful and Efficient USB Stick Miner! on: October 06, 2017, 06:47:50 PM
Go read in the USB Hub link I posted. Sipolar (10 port), Eyeboot (19 port), Block Erupter (49 port)

 without special adapters the sipolar 10 hub can fit 6 of these and the eyeboot 8. at 245 for the eyeboot i think its not a good buy.


 Sipolar is USB2 (not an issue of itself) and only .6 amps per port rated (DEFINITELY an issue) - not a good option.

 The ports on the Block Erupter are too close together to be able to use all of them, it would probably handle 28 Moonlanders though (one every OTHER port on each row) but even then cooling might get a bit iffy without a substantial fan blowing lots of air into it.

1964  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How much would it cost to build mining rig? on: October 06, 2017, 06:14:19 PM
IMO there is no point to using a high-end Ryzen or high-end Intel CPU in a mining rig - yes, you CAN make a little back on them mining Monero but the PAYOFF is measured in years, as opposed to putting a cheap G-series Intel or using a FX-series or even a A-series AMD base instead.

 FX series CPUs in particular are ballpark $100 ($130ish for the high-end FX 8xxx series) vs *$300* ballpark for a Ryzen 1700 and MORE for that high-end Intel you listed, and the 8320E in particular is good for around 300-350 hash/sec on Monero (vs 400ish for the Ryzen 1700 and perhaps as high as 500 for the 1800x or that Intel).

 AM3+ motherboards also tend to be lower cost than AM4 at this point for similar capabilities (though no M2 on a lot of them, but M2 is a WASTE on a mining machine instead of using a much cheaper HD or USB key option), as are FM2+ motherboards.

 Recent price bouncing in the RAM market has also dropped DDR3 back to being cheaper than the same capacity of DDR4 (though it's still pretty close).


 The one down side is that AM3+ and FM2+ motherboards are starting to become less available, as some manufacturers have stopped making some models in favor of AM4 and whatever that slot the Threadripper uses (SM4? Can't remember offhand) based motherboards.



1965  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Single Phase and Three Phase Power -amp Question on: October 06, 2017, 06:00:30 PM
Using 3 phase to direct-power single-phase gear often puts too low a voltage on that gear to work properly - though most MODERN power supplies can handle 208 (nominal) input voltage.

 Most folks don't want to deal with the hassle and PAIN of phase balance - and most 3-phase electric feeds are to places that use gear that NEEDS 3-phase anyway, like large manufacturing machines.

 Large cryptocoin mines and large datacenters are not the norm in most areas....

1966  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Don't focus on GPU panic. Focus on efficiency. on: October 06, 2017, 05:54:31 PM
Wow, that is scarry!

How could this happen? Everything in PC world is usually made of non burnable materials.. cables etc, or at least should be! Do you think it was some respectable brand of PSU? Or did it caught fire from PSU at all?

 Looks like an "overloaded cables" issue.
1967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: DASH incredible rise in the hashrate on: October 05, 2017, 06:36:40 PM
On August 3rd, Dash Network Hashrate is around 13 TH/S to 14 TH/s,
and in just 30 days, on September 4th, Dash Network Hashrate is around 32 TH/s to 33 TH/s  Shocked Shocked

and what the monster miners are in market now? only the iBelink 10.8G, and first/second batch Antminer D3, right?

So in November, when there are 10.8G, 22G, 17G, 15G, 30G, 10G in the market...  Tongue i guess Dash Network Hashrate  would be 100 TH/s at least  Tongue Tongue Tongue Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

 I'm actually estimating more like 200 TH by the end of October.

 Profitability will still exist - if you have low enough electric cost - it just won't be INSANELY high for those that didn't already HAVE miners by now or will get theirs in the next few weeks.

 I don't see X11 getting to the TB level on a single miner anytime soon. Too many of the current ones are already using the 14/16nm process node, not a lot of room to squeeze a lot more hashrate....



1968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How much would it cost to build mining rig? on: October 05, 2017, 06:25:30 PM
Micro Center is lucky they don't have a store in or near Central Washington - it would NEVER have any stock of AMD RX 470/480/570/580 cards for more than a few hours at those prices.

1969  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nvidia 1060 vs 1070 vs 1080 vs 1080Ti on: October 05, 2017, 06:20:48 PM
sorry, what is the ETH hashrate for 1080ti?

 Ballpark 35 Mhash/sec depending on where you can get the clocks to be stable at.

 ETH is a VERY bad choice for both the 1080 and the 1080ti, as GDDR 5x latency apparently has a bad impact on ETH hashrate compared to the GDDR 5 that the 1070 and below use.

 If the rumored 1070ti shows up with GDDR5, it might be the fastest ETH miner on the Green side - but will STILL not be competative with the Red side now that RX 470/480/570/580 prices have dropped back down to semi-close to sorta reasonable and availability is improving.
 I'm going to be VERY interested to see what it does on ZEC and the like where NVidia is strong - and what the final price turns out to be.





1970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Don't focus on GPU panic. Focus on efficiency. on: October 05, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
There's also a good ROI on platinum/titanium psu. Imagine gold psu = 89% efficient, titanium = 94%.

The psu is 1500W, and you use 1200W. 5% efficiency difference is ~ 60W lost.

60W over a year = 60*24*365/1000 = 525KWH wasted due to poor efficiency.

If your electricity rate is $0.10, thats $52 lost. Over 5 years, that's $250 due to efficiency loss. If you're in mining for the long haul, it makes sense to go for platinum/titanium psu

 Most Gold rated power supplies do noticeably better than 89% efficiency across most of their rated power range - EVGA and Seasonic in particular usually just MISS "Platinum" rating on their G2 and X series power supplies.

 Also, long term you aren't likely to be profitable at 10 cents / kwh - the last few months have been a noteable exception but NOT the norm - since most of the BIG farms are paying less than 5 and commonly closer to 3.

1971  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Can you build your own machine using same processors as S9? on: October 05, 2017, 05:57:36 PM
Quote

 "pseudo-random heuristics" have ZERO to do with cryptocoin mining.
 Nor does algebra - cryptocoin work is all about simple integer add and rotate operations, there is NOTHING complicated or random about it.


Exactly the reason I invest in the development of PHs speed miner based on algebra and pseudo-random heuristics since no competitors yet.

 There is "no competition" because the whole concept has nothing to do with cryptocoin mining, and is NOT APPLICABLE to doing cryptocoin mining.

 There is NO RANDOM to any cryptocoin algorithm - if there was anything random, the algorithm would not WORK.

 Whoever "PH" is, they appear to be running a particularly ignorant scam for this "speed miner", or their scam is aimed at the particularly ignorant.




1972  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Can you build your own machine using same processors as S9? on: October 05, 2017, 05:54:37 PM
So TSMC knows how to make these chips but will only build them for bitmain and other custom jobs. They don't have their own version of the chips for other miners.

I just wanted to make sure there are not generic of a ASIC chip. In regular computers, each PC manufacturer does not have their own chip, you have generic   Intel I7 or AMD Ryzen  chip that any person or company can purchase.


 Intel and AMD are NOT "generic" - they just happen to be widely-available competing product lines with VERY similar capabilities and an overlapping range of performance.

 At least one of the ASIC miner chip houses (BW.com I think) uses Global Foundries as opposed to the more common usage of TSMC to make the actual chips.

 The foundries don't DESIGN the chips, they just make them to specification on contract terms (as they do for AMD and IBM and NVidia and Apple among MANY others - Samsung and Intel have their OWN foundries).
 The DESIGN of the chip is owned by the company that designed it.

1973  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Single Phase and Three Phase Power -amp Question on: October 05, 2017, 05:46:12 PM
3 phase distribution that feeds a single-phase (or a North American "split phase") setup generally uses a transformer to convert - which renders the "balance the phases" issue moot.

1974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX VEGA 1900 H/s on CryptoNight fake??? on: October 04, 2017, 09:16:57 PM
Yeap, it's fake,  also rx 480 have never done over 22Mh/s in eth.


 23-24 perhaps with a stock BIOS on the 8GB cards with their faster RAM, higher needed modded BIOS with memory timing changes.
 I was seeing 21-22 on STOCK bios on my Sapphire RX 470 4GB "reference" type cards despite the slow RAM.

1975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Would you buy a 16 GPU prebuilt rackmount mining rig? on: October 04, 2017, 09:14:33 PM
I would not even CONSIDER having anything to do with a single rig with 16 GPUs.
I don't even want to THINK about trying to cool such a rig in a 4u case - 8 GPUs would be bad enough.
Might be possible using a water-cooling setup, but the entire front of the case better be one BEEFY radiator and even then it's going to be marginal.

 Microcenter isn't in "the majority of the USA", though they are somewhat widespread.
 They're MOSTLY a "Great Lakes States" regional chain, based out of Ohio, with a FEW stores in some major cities not in their primary region.

 Fry's is mostly West Coast with a couple "out of area" stores in major cities, based out of San Jose California (unless they moved their HQ away from where their ORIGINAL store was at).
 Again, a big regional not a nationwide chain.

 It's also worth checking out Tiger Direct, they sometimes have some really good deals on GPUs.


1976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: DASH incredible rise in the hashrate on: October 04, 2017, 09:06:13 PM
Hi guys!

I've just noticed an incredible rise in Dash' hashrate:

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/hashrate-eth-dash.html

Just for a rough comparison, it recently surpassed Eth' hashrate even though apparently it's much less profitable, because the daily reward is 13% (eth's daily reward is 4.5M, dash is 0.6M).

Is there a reason for such a huge difference?

Thanks

 Bitmain delivering the first batch or two of the D3.
 Pinidea and Ibelink having probably delivered batches of their second-gen miners as well.

 Bitmain is estimated to have SOLD somewhere in the ballpark of 20,000 D3 units ALONE so far - which should all be delivered and online by the end of November. I think the estimated count was close to 15,000 by the end of October.

 Innosilicon isn't delivering A5 units YET - but those should start arriving in a month or so.


 This is not news - it's been discussed in several other threads, specifically including the D3 primary thread.
1977  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nvidia 1060 vs 1070 vs 1080 vs 1080Ti on: October 04, 2017, 09:01:04 PM
In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)


 The 1080 is mostly not popular due to it's high price - but for many algorithms it is very competative on hash/$ (just not on ETH which is what the majority of miners are interested in).

 It's a particularly good choice on ZEC and ZEN and the other spinoffs of ZEC, where it is a tossup on hash/watt AND hash/$ with ANY other GPU model (including the 1070 and 1080ti).


 This will change if AMD card pricing on the RX series drops much more, especially if those cards ever get back down to "close to MSRP" pricing.


 3x1080ti on a single 850 (even a GOOD one like the EVGA G2 850 or the Seasonic X850) will work reliably if you turn the TDP down far enough, but it hurts hashrate noticeably to do so which is a definite MINUS if you have a low electric cost.

 You are also leaving yourself a lot fewer options on possible future coins that might be efficient at higher power settings.


 The Gigabyte 1070 Gaming G1 has a TDP of 180 watts - that's 75 from the PCI-E bus, 105 from a PCI-E 8-pin connector that even the PCI-E SPEC allows up to 150 watts of draw from.
 You'd need to push it up past 225 watts to need a second power connector, per the PCI-E specs.

 The MSI 1070 card that has 2 power connectors is RATED for a 240 watt TDP (I've got one of those) - but I've never had it get much over 200 even PUSHING it, and the cooling won't handle MUCH more than 200 on that card without GPU overheating issues unless you have a VERY cool ambient temp and a LOT of airflow around the card.



1978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Windows won't boot with 3 GPUs on: October 04, 2017, 08:49:12 PM
Error/Code 12 "This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. If you want to use this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system." - yes or no?
Disabled in BIOS onboard audio and usb?

 Sounds like a "decode above 4 GB" lack of address space issue.

 I don't know that board so I don't know where or if it has a setting to fix that issue.
1979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How much would it cost to build mining rig? on: October 04, 2017, 08:45:48 PM
Hi bitcointalk, I want to build mining rig but I dont have the slightest idea how will i build one and how much would it cost me. Currently I have $ 2000. Would it suffice to build mining rig?

 Easily will get you a viable 3-card GTX 1080 non-riser rig, possibly 4-5 card on a RX 470/570/480/580 or GTX 1060 based riser rig.

1980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What's your average earnings per GPU last year? on: October 04, 2017, 08:44:03 PM
This is a very useless question because the profits vary depending on the month.

With a RX 470/480 you could of made up to $10/day (May-June 2017) or $1/day like right now.

And impossible to predict what the earnings will be next year.

yeah  right now  no card does 3 or 4 a day

but next week  who knows

 1080 ti is still CLOSE to 3 a day - but not quite there this week even if you push max hashrate instead of max efficiency.

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