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1981  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: November 25, 2021, 01:39:55 PM
These pieces of shit don't miss an opportunity to prove their scumbag lowlife status do they.

#BSVBlockchain based vaccine cards are coming to San Francisco.

@VXpass is the first ever digital COVID-19 vaccine card provider built on the #blockchain, and has just been approved by the city of San Francisco as an accredited vaccine card provider.



https://twitter.com/BitcoinAssn/status/1461337591106748428
1982  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2021, 12:29:18 AM
True and you can always run a furnace off a generator, trying to run straight electric methods off a generator is not viable.

While that's true, cheap generators in the US tend to be 120V only and the furnace is 240. I've looked into whether some kind of upgrade would be possible but it seems like the answer is "it's complicated".

You can rewire a 120 for 240 if need be but i've seen tons of cheap generators on craigslist that supply 240v.

Just set a alert on craigslist and you can nab one cheap.

I almost grabbed a monster 50kwh diesel former military diesel for under a grand but someone got there first.
1983  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2021, 11:01:29 PM
As a side note I would just like to say that if I had a purely electrical heating system I would absolutely have a backup.

Even if you don't. Ours is gas/electric and when the power goes out, there's no electric to do the electricy things. Fortunately, we have a gas range so there's at least something available.

True and you can always run a furnace off a generator, trying to run straight electric methods off a generator is not viable.
1984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: November 24, 2021, 06:05:44 PM
How is your guy's league going?  I would love to see a screen shot of the league standing if you guys feel comfortable sharing that ( not sure why you wouldn't, just saying tho).  I have said that I was done in all my leagues before, but now that is official lol.  Losing Henry, Ridley, Michael Thomas, & Robert Woods was a death blow.  On top of that I've had an insane amount of injuries/illness .. CMC, Carson, Aaron Jones, Lamar Jackson, Michal Carter etc.  Been a tough year to say the least.


Sounds like your describing my team here, CMC, Carson, Michael Thomas, & Robert Woods were all drafted on this team!



This is the lineup this week.

1985  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2021, 05:11:44 PM

It's actually an electric furnace which heats water supplied to wet radiators (with hot water coming from a completely different electric immersion heater) - there is no gas in my rural location. It was installed many years before I bought the house and there seem to be hardly any of them around. I think it probably dates back to the early 1990s. There has been some kind of electrical overloading which has fried at least one, maybe all three, of the internal relays. There's also no guarantee that the element itself hasn't gone too. The manufacturer no longer exists and a search online for known spare part numbers has proved fruitless. So I could spend ages trying to source spare parts; and/or pay 100s for a call-out and repair fee with no guarantee of success; or buy an equivalent modern replacement furnace.


This is the kind of thing where parts continue to be available forever and they are often interchangeable (standard) so it's probably worth to keep investigating a bit more. It just depends which of the bits are broken. When you say relay, do you mean thermostat? Or is it part of the pumping system?

I've now found that the three relays are indeed fried, along with some associated wiring, but I've now taken one of the relays out so I can see exactly what type it is:

image loading...

And you're absolutely right Richy, they seem to very standard and still available, such as https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/non-latching-relays/2452087. So, I'm off to get three of them.....

I wish I knew more about electrical stuff. And lots of other things....

... that looks like you've had a quite substantial power surge or some other over-current situation and close to a fire even, it's quite likely fuses will be blown and other electrical bits might be blown/melted also

... you need an electrician to check the wiring if you're not confident doing electrical work, you don't need a plumber

... it's odd that it has been working fine since 1990 to get such a dramatic failure, maybe you had a lightning strike?

... or if these relays are controlling the power to the main heating element then that might be blown or shorted which caused the overcurrent that fried these relays but the fuses should have blown first and protected these

.... if these relays control the circulation pump then that could be blown also which caused the overcurrent but then same as above, fuses should have protected the relays

... unless it was lightning strike or power surge from the grid (how stable is the power in your area?) then something deeper is amiss ...

.... don't listen to these guys saying to replace the wiring which is a big job for an amateur, not a quick fix,  you just need to either to get this running again so you don't freeze or replace the whole system as you said earlier

... my advice at this point is get an electrician asap, doesn't need to be heating specialist even


Marcus is correct.

You more than likely have a short, possibly the element burned out and shorted.

If you replace those relays and fuses without finding the issue all you will get is another pile of melted relays and blown fuses.

Get someone that knows how to use a meter to shoot those lines.



Basically I paddled my chest/heart. About the worst way to shock yourself. Good electrical system in my heart or I would not be writing this as I type.  I no longer do any work on energized circuits.  Fool me once okay but not twice.

Nobody fears electricity more than an electrician.


It looks like the coil connections show these burning/heat traces, that should not be as bad as when the conducting contacts look like that (when like this relay the pole/throw contact is rated at 30A@230V).

I'd put money those are the conducting contacts. The empty parallel set are for a double pole setup.

I wouldn't be surprised if the fuse blew in the past and someone shoved a nail in there or something. Though fuses do sometimes only protect eventually. If there's no fuse then yikes!

Could be a slow burn fuse as well, people will pop those in when they have an issue with fuses popping rather than finding the underlining cause.


As a side note I would just like to say that if I had a purely electrical heating system I would absolutely have a backup.

I have only had to use my wood stove a few times over the decades but when I did it was a godsend.
* I burned the kitchen table and seats once during a snow storm with friends all around the stove.
1986  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: November 23, 2021, 01:46:55 AM
Anyways, i hope Godwin scores today! 🤞

That didn't take long. Cheesy

Looking forward to Bill/Pats games, I hope they are in a blizzard.
1987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 22, 2021, 01:27:09 AM
As Hueristic points out though... it is mostly Twitter.  And I can stop paying so much attention.

I am of the opinion that tptb are setting peops against each other just like the lunatic left and the retarded right are constantly at war.

Its how they keep us powerless.

I was hoping people would smarten up to this crap before I die but it doesn't look like that will happen.
1988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Summer dip?!, December price outcome? ---> JOIN and guess the price GO! on: November 21, 2021, 11:33:51 PM
Same question…. Would anyone adjust there price range if they had a chance and why or reason?

Not a chance. Smiley

Right on schedule.

Right on schedule.
1989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 21, 2021, 11:12:15 PM
My point is stop yelling about Bitcoin, and just let people understand why Monero is worth using.  That's what Samurai and BnGuns is doing.  And the monero community is criticizing them for being un-pure.

THAT is my point.

You gotta stop reading twitter, maybe try Instagram. Grin

You have a great point.  But sadly Twitter is where the crypto community lives.  Well, there and reddit which is just the same tone nowadays.

Its just full of NGU fanboys, just take a week off.

It will be there and be exactly the same when you go back. Smiley
1990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 21, 2021, 10:29:08 PM
My point is stop yelling about Bitcoin, and just let people understand why Monero is worth using.  That's what Samurai and BnGuns is doing.  And the monero community is criticizing them for being un-pure.

THAT is my point.

You gotta stop reading twitter, maybe try Instagram. Grin
1991  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: November 21, 2021, 09:20:49 PM
My other team that I lost ALL my WR's friday and A jones might just win.

These are the WRs I scooped off the wire (nothing there in a 12 man league).



I think I chose well! Cheesy
1992  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2021, 07:44:03 PM
One year Last of the V8's missing

Not missing…. Missed at BTCT possible

He will have he’s reasons…

Reworded Cheesy
1993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 21, 2021, 05:48:21 PM
Is it trying to compete with Bitcoin tho?  It is technically better than BTC from a privacy perspective which in turn is starting to take away BTC’s use case as a currency for DNM’s.  It will also start creeping in all the other use cases like the store of value meme.  I mean if you hold millions worth of crypto why would you like to be exposed in a rich list somewhere.

I can see how Bitcoin is a better store of wealth as Monero's intrinsic properties allow all types of fuckery from tptb and we cant prove it.
1994  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: November 21, 2021, 05:45:37 PM
Lets not get all excited, that was the falcons they faced after all. Cheesy

They beat Browns too albeit without Chubb.

But yeah I'd like to see them beat Bills twice, get to the playoffs, and win 7 Super Bowls before I proclaim Mac Jones as Brady 2.0.
As a fan I am cautiously optimistic, if Mac Jones can give NE a decade or more of good performance and one SB win I will consider him to be a worthy successor of Brady, but some members of the media and the fans are trying to make out of him the next Brady, and honestly I have doubts we will see anyone go to 10 SBs and winning 7 of them.

And speaking of it have any of you watched the new documentary series about Brady titled Man in the arena?

Heard good things about it but havn't felt the need to see it.

I feel like my team is massively stacked this week, too bad i'm out of the running. Cheesy
1995  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2021, 05:27:11 PM
One year Last of the V8's Being missed.
1996  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: November 21, 2021, 01:18:33 AM
Cordarrelle Patterson  :eek:

I know, I know.  I was busy and didn't have time to check before the game.  Earlier in the week it was looking like he might be ready for the game.  Glad I started the Pat's D, however, that might have saved my ass.  We'll know Sunday.

Pats D was Stellar! And Folk had his second best game of the year, if he hadn't missed the extra point he would have tied his year high.

I know because he is against me! Cheesy





I have a team in fourth (12 team league) and this is what happened this week.

I lost
A Jones
Cordarrelle Patterson
W00ds for season
Hollywood brown
Antonio Brown to injuries this week

and have M Gordon and Van jefferson on bye.  


I cant even field a fucking team.

I should have taken this year off. Cheesy
1997  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: November 21, 2021, 12:39:34 AM
Yeah, but when you still have vulture attitude but ostrich execution it's only a matter of time until you get benched.  It'll be entertaining to watch, though.  

Yeah, I can't see them winning anything with him at the helm.

Did you forget something?

Cordarrelle Patterson  :eek:


1998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 21, 2021, 12:27:30 AM
Lolz


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA41KkjFTuI
1999  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2021, 12:23:08 AM
the first? 

Oh come on....

I certainly don't remember an earlier one but go ahead and point it out will you?
2000  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2021, 11:49:07 PM
Pet food is a marketing scam.

Not only your other points but pet food is specifically designed to smell good to humans so the pet owner is tricked into thinking their pet will love it when in fact if it was designed for the pet it would smell so rotten that a owner would toss it thinking its bad and never buy that brand a again. Its actually amusing if you think about it.
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