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21  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 22, 2017, 04:50:39 PM
Alright

"Bitcoin is king" "Bitcoin will keep growing" "Bitcoin is the leader" "Bitcoin will never be replaced" -newbie.
Why are people still so convinced about this?

Bitcoin is the leader and the king - legendary member. You can quote me on that.

Why? Because it is so. Bitcoin has the highest acceptance rate, recognizability, price, market cap, trading volume... What more do you want?
What other cryptocurrency is better? BCC? Have you seen how it dropped when BTC started to dive? It's all connected, you can't simply take over and make people sell all their coins and switch to another CC.



I'm not saying people should switch. I just think they will at some point get forced to if the problem doesn't get solved soon.
22  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 22, 2017, 04:48:44 PM
Many advantages and disadvantages, but in my opinion it still The pioneer , and the spirit of digital money, a revolution. life is full of opportunities to catch. good luck friend
That's not an opinion. Bitcoin IS the pioneer.

Pioneer means that it was first


I wouldn't say Bitcoin is best though
23  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 22, 2017, 04:32:28 PM
Alright

"Bitcoin is king" "Bitcoin will keep growing" "Bitcoin is the leader" "Bitcoin will never be replaced" -newbie.
Why are people still so convinced about this?

Bitcoin is great, we learned a lot of it. Without Bitcoin we wouldn't have those other cryptocurrencies.
But just because Bitcoin is the pioneer doesn't mean it can't be replaced.
Bitcoin Cash is just a clone with bigger blocks, this will only solve the problem temporarely. So forget about it.

It's clear that Bitcoin isn't the best coin anymore. Problem is because of all this hype there is a lot of new dumb money that only see Bitcoin's insane price growth. That kind of people that leave their money on Coinbase is what I'm talking about (for long term).

If people would look at things more objectlively things wouldn't have gone this way.
I'm not naming other coins because I don't wanna make this a pump post.

Too much dumb investors these days.. Bitcoin is no longer useable in a normal way but noobs will never realize because they never make a transaction to their own wallets because they don't even know it's decentralized and stuff...

I hope Bitcoin will fail soon. It has had enough time to be adapted to its use of today. Why can't Bitcoin be as good as other and better crypto's? I have no idea. But in my eyes it's already game over for Bitcoin.
I know theres gonna be a lot of fanboy hate coming to this post. Don't make them ruin this topic please.

Thanks to those who made Bitcoin possible, we will never forget you. But now it's time to move on.


DEAL WITH IT!!



Bitcoin is king because it showed us what is possible and paved the way for a lot of great altcoin projects that wouldn't have seen the light of day had it not been for Bitcoin. But you're right in that its not the best coin/currency, and yes - one day it will be replaced.

You can never avoid 'dumb money' though. Its always going to be there.
Like it or not, when most people hear cryptocurrency, they automatically think Bitcoin..
Don't forget, that in most cases Bitcoin is years ahead in PR and publicity (ie 'spreading the word') than most of the alternatives.
The market sees this as a 'tried and tested' crypto, as opposed to some of the newer (and yes, better) ones with no history.

I'm a bitcoin and altcoin holder so I'm happy either way Smiley


This is what I call an intelligent post.
24  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 22, 2017, 04:30:54 PM
I don't think so
Don't think what? I'm sure it will fail if there will be no solution. When there will be a solution I see a bright future for Bitcoin.
25  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 22, 2017, 04:29:30 PM
I don't want to say anything but while reading your post, it reminded me of someone from 2012 and coincidently both of you are having the same opinion. 

Year 2017:
Too much dumb investors these days.. Bitcoin is no longer useable in a normal way but noobs will never realize because they never make a transaction to their own wallets because they don't even know it's decentralized and stuff...


Year 2012:
too much blind optimism. Everyone thinks bitcoins will rise to the moon again.

Remember some points.

1) Bitcoins are as useless now as they ever were


Year 2017:
Problem is because of all this hype there is a lot of new dumb money that only see Bitcoin's insane price growth.


Year 2012:
10) Last but not least, who the hell is stupid enough to pay $5.00 now for a bitcoin?


Year 2022: Will edit this in the year 2022


Things are still in the development phase thus there is a huge (*too much) scope for the growth in my opinion.
lol, except this time is different. Back then there wasn't a problem with Bitcoin itself. Just no one accepting it.
Now it is litterally unusable because there are more transactions made than Bitcoin can process so it keeps heaping up.
26  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE on: December 22, 2017, 02:18:53 PM
Thats why we should all move to IOTA. This technology is awesome and the more people use it the faster and better it gets.

Actually no one really care and wanted to know IOTA. If there is a need to replace bitcoin, it would be either bitcoin cash, eth, dash.

That's what I'm thinking or even another coin who knows
EDIT: I mean definitely not Bitcoin Cash lol
27  Economy / Speculation / Re: Expecting bitcoin drops below 10K within 24 hours, anyone with me? on: December 22, 2017, 02:10:58 PM
I think next year. If there is no solution.
28  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 22, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Good choice. BTC will crash to ~$3-4k until the end of the year.

Hope so, but I don't think it's gonna happen. Too many people being fanboys and holding on to it. But next year I see that as a possibility
29  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 22, 2017, 02:08:26 PM
Your speech seems very wise. But that is just a personal view which happens when Bitcoin is falling down. This is a friendly prediction or you wanna dump Bitcoin to buy with low price? anyway, thank for your opinion.

lol no, but honestly if it were to crash to like 1000$ I would surely buy some. But I will keep my alts.
30  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 22, 2017, 02:04:39 PM
Reaction is amusing, so many people hurt... methinks you do protest too much.  Its one persons reasonable view, but everyone want to attack and interpret things not written.

I know right...
31  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 22, 2017, 02:03:27 PM
2. Not pumping other coin? Then why do you mention BCH not other coins? and in the next line you mention " why cant bitcoin be as good as other and better crypto? Not only you bashing and lowering bitcoin, it is indeed you pumping other coin (maybe bch) by persuading people to shift into other coins.

Why would I be pumping bch when I say
Bitcoin Cash is just a clone with bigger blocks, this will only solve the problem temporarely. So forget about it.

Your statement doesn't make sense. By the way I think bhc is junk
32  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 22, 2017, 01:49:52 PM
I know you have posted this as a reaction to the extreme dump of bitcoin right now. I am not disaggreeing because I also believe that it is time for other coins to shine. There are also several coins with potential that are not given the attention they deserve. Despite of the huge dump of bitcoin price, a lot still believes that it will recover after this holiday and honestly speaking I am one of them. But this does not mean that I am not open to other good coins. I hope everything will be fine and will have an open mind.
I'm not writing this because of the drop. But simply because of the issues (which will probably lead to an even bigger drop).
And yes, I'm am into altcoins like Monero. Personally I think DGB is a better bitcoin version (not invested in that one).

Thanks for your post



Alright

"Bitcoin is king" "Bitcoin will keep growing" "Bitcoin is the leader" "Bitcoin will never be replaced" -newbie.
Why are people still so convinced about this?

Bitcoin is great, we learned a lot of it. Without Bitcoin we wouldn't have those other cryptocurrencies.
But just because Bitcoin is the pioneer doesn't mean it can't be replaced.
Bitcoin Cash is just a clone with bigger blocks, this will only solve the problem temporarely. So forget about it.

It's clear that Bitcoin isn't the best coin anymore. Problem is because of all this hype there is a lot of new dumb money that only see Bitcoin's insane price growth. That kind of people that leave their money on Coinbase is what I'm talking about (for long term).

If people would look at things more objectlively things wouldn't have gone this way.
I'm not naming other coins because I don't wanna make this a pump post.

Too much dumb investors these days.. Bitcoin is no longer useable in a normal way but noobs will never realize because they never make a transaction to their own wallets because they don't even know it's decentralized and stuff...

I hope Bitcoin will fail soon. It has had enough time to be adapted to its use of today. Why can't Bitcoin be as good as other and better crypto's? I have no idea. But in my eyes it's already game over for Bitcoin.
I know theres gonna be a lot of fanboy hate coming to this post. Don't make them ruin this topic please.

Thanks to those who made Bitcoin possible, we will never forget you. But now it's time to move on.


DEAL WITH IT!!


Sounds like you lost some $$ on the recent price drop and your upset about. Investing in btc is for the long haul,btc will take a huge plunge when China and Russia introduce their own crypto in the next 5yrs and outlaw other crypto’s Sure there’s plenty of problems with btc but in 10-15yrs most kinks will be worked out.

I didn't loose $$, I only lost in Bitcoin value because I mostly trade Crypto/BTC instead of Crypto/FIAT.
I didn't make this post because of the Bitcoin drop in $$ but because I am disappointed in many investors that jump on the hype train without learning about Blockchain. There are many people that "have" Bitcoin on sites like Coinbase that don't even know what a private key is! Imagine Coinbase being hacked: Bitcoins image would get a serious hit and people will blame Bitcoin for their losses "because it is unsafe" while it's their own fault by not learning about Bitcoin and backing up thier keys. The first investors in Bitcoin are much smarter I think and did it more out of an interest in technology instead of pure fiat profit.
33  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 21, 2017, 05:16:10 PM
You are just another piece of shit who is trying to create fud all over bitcoin.
It does not surprise me anymore, everytime that there are bad news about bitcoin, or everytime that it goes down a lot of dumb people appear in this forum creating this kind of posts.

These type of fud threads should be deleted, all they are aimed at it new investors to make them sell at a loss in fear.

Your bcash goes down too.

And since when is telling people to wake up called FUD? I'm not lying or telling people they should sell/buy stuff.
People like you are blind by the success of Bitcoin in price growth
34  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 21, 2017, 03:17:41 PM
It's true Smiley) At the moment, exchange all Bitcoin to other altcoin is better option for all trader and Bitcoin holder cause Bitcoin price is going down very quickly but all other altcoin price are increasing really fast. This is the best time for people to get more profit by trading altcoin Smiley). Maybe Bitcoin is too old to be king of cryptocurrency, maybe it's time for other cryptocurrency to become a new king Smiley
I'm glad I'm not alone who thinks this way
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 21, 2017, 03:13:12 PM
4 days now since my 320$ unconfirmed, paid 10$ fee which was crazy high fee last week. Whatever... glad i cashed out my bulk of it.

1100sat/byte trans fee now on blockcchain, hahaha, 140$ asked to "acelerate" a transaction. greedy network, not bitcoin network should call it. 2mb size not upgradable? nice future,lol


ooh, and Even if price hits 0 I will still hodl bitcoin because bitcoijn is such greath technology and improve kids future life, benefit on living in a coonnectted wolrd.... +++random new account aberations... zzzzzzzzz shill fks
Feel bad for you.
I remember once paying 0 satoshi (Changed the fee in Blockchain.info). Because I didn't wanna pay. It took a day. Those were the good old times lol.

Off course it's not recommended but in my case I didn't need speed for it. And then theres sites where you can sell Bitcoin by depositing in their given Bitcoin address for only 10 minutes. I have many times missed the deadline and had to ask my money back! Even though I paid a premium fee of 4$ (back then). This was already a problem way ago...

Yeah, even one month ago we could trade and pay only 0.5-2 dollars (still bad vs early days but value was below 3k in those earky days) whilst getting confirmed
In 20mins to an hour and a half tops. I have not seen the mempool below 110k unconf since then and it looks the same eac day Sad

Not an investor, just an old user, miss when 0.1btc was worth 40$, trans speed high and low fee.

Luckily i coughed up the 45$ fees for my other 330 transfer and the bigger ammount was sent few days ago when it atill was not as bad. I see these high fees unavoidable from now on, mempool doesnt look to be going anywhere for the last 2 weeks.
It's either switch to another crypto or use a time machine
36  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 21, 2017, 03:10:45 PM
Bitcoin not die so easily. BTC network have very big community and for big part of this community doesnt matter what is better he was continue using original btc
Yes, that doesn't mean it wont "break" at some point there is a huge pile of unconfirmed transactions right now.
Compare it to a world were we can't process all the worlds garbage. It will heap up and destroy it all.
37  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 21, 2017, 02:58:25 PM
even if the cash bitcoin is better, I do not think the bitcoin will crash so easily, it will have less volume because many will use the BCC but it will keep its first place
Bitcoin Cash is just a Bitcoin clone with a temporary fix. We will need a faster coin soon.
38  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 21, 2017, 02:55:58 PM
I share some of the views, however I believe that the fall of Bitcion will lead to a confidence shock across the whole ecosystem.  Unless it occurs very gradually as others rise up.  Right now there is a 3-4x capitalisation gap between BTC and ETH, and I dont even think ETH is the answer with its own issues going on.  If you lost half the market value of Bitcoin in say 3 months, thats going to burn through a lot of holders and scare the newcomers.  On the other hand, this may be very healthy for the ecosystem, with the strong coming through, those with genuine utility and not just clones and experiments.  Like the dotcom crash thinned the herd and we're left with companies larger than the old world industries. The further Bitcoin goes up, the hard the fall when it does come down, which it will do as all assets and economies have crashes from time to time.


Only thing Bitcoin is good for is to be pumped and then when the money flows into altcoins I'm happy like today and yesterday..
39  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE on: December 21, 2017, 02:54:01 PM
Thats why we should all move to IOTA. This technology is awesome and the more people use it the faster and better it gets.
I did not intend to make this a post to give other people a chance to pump their coin, but nice try...
40  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thank you Bitcoin and GOODBYE (Let it goooo) on: December 21, 2017, 02:51:47 PM
4 days now since my 320$ unconfirmed, paid 10$ fee which was crazy high fee last week. Whatever... glad i cashed out my bulk of it.

1100sat/byte trans fee now on blockcchain, hahaha, 140$ asked to "acelerate" a transaction. greedy network, not bitcoin network should call it. 2mb size not upgradable? nice future,lol


ooh, and Even if price hits 0 I will still hodl bitcoin because bitcoijn is such greath technology and improve kids future life, benefit on living in a coonnectted wolrd.... +++random new account aberations... zzzzzzzzz shill fks
Feel bad for you.
I remember once paying 0 satoshi (Changed the fee in Blockchain.info). Because I didn't wanna pay. It took a day. Those were the good old times lol.

Off course it's not recommended but in my case I didn't need speed for it. And then theres sites where you can sell Bitcoin by depositing in their given Bitcoin address for only 10 minutes. I have many times missed the deadline and had to ask my money back! Even though I paid a premium fee of 4$ (back then). This was already a problem way ago...
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