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December 22, 2017, 04:41:01 AM
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Alright

"Bitcoin is king" "Bitcoin will keep growing" "Bitcoin is the leader" "Bitcoin will never be replaced" -newbie.
Why are people still so convinced about this?

Bitcoin is great, we learned a lot of it. Without Bitcoin we wouldn't have those other cryptocurrencies.
But just because Bitcoin is the pioneer doesn't mean it can't be replaced.
Bitcoin Cash is just a clone with bigger blocks, this will only solve the problem temporarely. So forget about it.

It's clear that Bitcoin isn't the best coin anymore. Problem is because of all this hype there is a lot of new dumb money that only see Bitcoin's insane price growth. That kind of people that leave their money on Coinbase is what I'm talking about (for long term).

If people would look at things more objectlively things wouldn't have gone this way.
I'm not naming other coins because I don't wanna make this a pump post.

Too much dumb investors these days.. Bitcoin is no longer useable in a normal way but noobs will never realize because they never make a transaction to their own wallets because they don't even know it's decentralized and stuff...

I hope Bitcoin will fail soon. It has had enough time to be adapted to its use of today. Why can't Bitcoin be as good as other and better crypto's? I have no idea. But in my eyes it's already game over for Bitcoin.
I know theres gonna be a lot of fanboy hate coming to this post. Don't make them ruin this topic please.

Thanks to those who made Bitcoin possible, we will never forget you. But now it's time to move on.


DEAL WITH IT!!


This post is kinda funny, because :
1. This is only your impression and a fruit of your thinking proccess. It only matters to you. So why do you want people to move on too? Just move on yourself. What? You afraid if you make a mistake alone so you persuade people to leave bitcoin?
2. Not pumping other coin? Then why do you mention BCH not other coins? and in the next line you mention " why cant bitcoin be as good as other and better crypto? Not only you bashing and lowering bitcoin, it is indeed you pumping other coin (maybe bch) by persuading people to shift into other coins.
3. Problem isnt solved in a day, such as Rome wasnt build in a day. Correct me if im wrong, even gold has its down price a lot, from 1889 usd to 1000++, and not to mention it is hard to transfer gold, security, fees to make it come acrross country etc. Yet gold is still favorited till nowadays. And you re missing the point that this week till 2018 is a holiday season, of course it is natural that the market will be full of transaction and it will make the transaction fees rise. We just need to wait for the update and solution to this problem.
4. Bitcoin is not even known by other and some country banned it, yet you want to believe that bitcoin can be used in a daily situation and transaction?
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December 22, 2017, 04:49:09 AM
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I am no fan of the transaction times.. but lets be serious  Does bitcoin really need to replace cash be successful ? Last I checked international wire fees can run upwards of $50 for any amount , I can buy bitcoin, send it international and convert it back to fiat for less that a Swift Transaction in half the time... and last I check most of the money in the world moves in big chunks.. small transactions all occur on consumer credit cards these days..

Maybe bitcoin cash or other alts will be used as a replacement for cash or plastic... but that really doesn't have to effect bitcoin.... no matter how annoying it is to have to wait more than an hour to transfer money...
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December 22, 2017, 04:50:28 AM
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1. Bitcoin is great, we learned a lot of it. Without Bitcoin we wouldn't have those other cryptocurrencies.
2. But just because Bitcoin is the pioneer doesn't mean it can't be replaced.
3. Bitcoin Cash is just a clone with bigger blocks, this will only solve the problem temporarely. So forget about it.
1. true
2. half true. bitcoin can be replaced but it is the biggest not just because it is the pioneer but because the alternative choices are all with lots of issues. you can not compete with bitcoin when you have lots of issues yourself.
3. 100% true.

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It's clear that Bitcoin isn't the best coin anymore.
then what is the best coin?
you see, that is the problem. there are no coins which we can consider better than bitcoin. there are some that come close but when you look deeper you can see most of it is illusion.

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Why can't Bitcoin be as good as other and better crypto's? I have no idea. But in my eyes it's already game over for Bitcoin.
because bitcoin is used and those altcoins aren't!
it is actually as simple as that. the same as bitcoin cash you mentioned above, yourself. if 99% of those altcoins were used as much as bitcoin, they would be starting to show the same symptoms and in some cases even worse ones.

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December 22, 2017, 05:10:12 AM
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As per the recent past variation of the market, what I understood is BTC is becoming just another coin. You could have missed a big opportunity if you keep all your money in BTC. The market and people have become smarter than before and they change their investment quickly and make quick and big profits. 
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December 22, 2017, 06:07:24 AM
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As per the recent past variation of the market, what I understood is BTC is becoming just another coin. You could have missed a big opportunity if you keep all your money in BTC. The market and people have become smarter than before and they change their investment quickly and make quick and big profits. 

This kind of action very bad for the users, not for bitcoin. Bitcoin is very strong currency now and have a lot of users all over the world. If some one say good buy to bitcoin it will not good for him because his regular way of the income will close for ever if he not come back. While bitcoin will rise again it many more user will join the bitcoin they will also make invest and trade in bitcoin. But the person who say good by to bitcoin will lost more.
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December 22, 2017, 07:46:36 AM
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To have to say goodbye to Bitcoin after all these time, highlights an underlying frustration and unrealized  dreams and that are uncalled for except for too much expectations from something one isn't in control of. A point of order here is that every altcoin out there is in competition with Bitcoin and because they  haven't solved any major problem Bitcoin didn't,  their place continues to tag behind Bitcoin.  

2017 will be remembered as a year of putting the records straight for Bitcoin and now that battles have been fought and won, going forward would be the ample  time for elvoving and consolidation just  like every great feat known to man. The entire picture have  never been immediately obvious, but the signs so apparent, though only few eyes are able to see them.
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December 22, 2017, 07:58:14 AM
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That's one opinion maybe ur post have some truth in it but No one can predict what will happen tomorrow investors newbie or pro all search for easy income bitcoin holders made a fortune out of it today tomorrow no one knows

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December 22, 2017, 10:42:30 AM
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I dont think its the right time to let go off it yet
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December 22, 2017, 11:05:25 AM
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The Bitcoin blockchain, despite its imperfections, is the most secure blockchain there is to day, and it can evolve.
All other coins would crumble if they faced the same circumstances that Bitcoin is currently facing.

Bitcoin can't evolve as fast as other coins because there are no centralized entities to make decisions for it and thus everyone has to reach consensus to move forward or nothing happens. It took us a year to get SegWit and services aren't even adopting it.

If let's say Litecoin was the #1 coin, there would still be interests and politics involved just as there is with Bitcoin today.

Should people start to switch to other coins, Bitcoin's transactions will drop and so will the fees, thus the problem solves itself and people come back to it.
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December 22, 2017, 11:08:18 AM
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We don't have a better alternative. Those faster coins either don't have the scale or security of the bitcoin to compare.
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December 22, 2017, 11:08:53 AM
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It's best to let go than waiting and hoping for something that may not come. Good decision.
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December 22, 2017, 11:21:08 AM
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I really am a big fan of bitcoin. I admit it. It just amazed me so much. As much as the people or the man behind it(since im not sure if satoshi is a man or a team).
I have stayed loyal to bitcoin since the the very first time i invested on it. But sad to say, op really has a point. I too see great alternative coins out there. If only bitcoin could adapt these other great coins innovative ideas and absorb it, that would make bitcoin more amazing as it is and unstoppable.

But still. I am not losing hope for bitcoin. It has overcome a lot of challenges in the past. Amd if it doesn't overcome this one, then it doesn't deserve the trust and faith that i and a lot of other people have put into it.
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December 22, 2017, 11:54:19 AM
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Alright

"Bitcoin is king" "Bitcoin will keep growing" "Bitcoin is the leader" "Bitcoin will never be replaced" -newbie.
Why are people still so convinced about this?

Bitcoin is great, we learned a lot of it. Without Bitcoin we wouldn't have those other cryptocurrencies.
But just because Bitcoin is the pioneer doesn't mean it can't be replaced.
Bitcoin Cash is just a clone with bigger blocks, this will only solve the problem temporarely. So forget about it.

It's clear that Bitcoin isn't the best coin anymore. Problem is because of all this hype there is a lot of new dumb money that only see Bitcoin's insane price growth. That kind of people that leave their money on Coinbase is what I'm talking about (for long term).

If people would look at things more objectlively things wouldn't have gone this way.
I'm not naming other coins because I don't wanna make this a pump post.

Too much dumb investors these days.. Bitcoin is no longer useable in a normal way but noobs will never realize because they never make a transaction to their own wallets because they don't even know it's decentralized and stuff...

I hope Bitcoin will fail soon. It has had enough time to be adapted to its use of today. Why can't Bitcoin be as good as other and better crypto's? I have no idea. But in my eyes it's already game over for Bitcoin.
I know theres gonna be a lot of fanboy hate coming to this post. Don't make them ruin this topic please.

Thanks to those who made Bitcoin possible, we will never forget you. But now it's time to move on.


DEAL WITH IT!!


Sounds like you lost some $$ on the recent price drop and your upset about. Investing in btc is for the long haul,btc will take a huge plunge when China and Russia introduce their own crypto in the next 5yrs and outlaw other crypto’s Sure there’s plenty of problems with btc but in 10-15yrs most kinks will be worked out.
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December 22, 2017, 12:06:14 PM
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I know you have posted this as a reaction to the extreme dump of bitcoin right now. I am not disaggreeing because I also believe that it is time for other coins to shine. There are also several coins with potential that are not given the attention they deserve. Despite of the huge dump of bitcoin price, a lot still believes that it will recover after this holiday and honestly speaking I am one of them. But this does not mean that I am not open to other good coins. I hope everything will be fine and will have an open mind.

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December 22, 2017, 12:33:02 PM
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Alright

"Bitcoin is king" "Bitcoin will keep growing" "Bitcoin is the leader" "Bitcoin will never be replaced" -newbie.
Why are people still so convinced about this?

Bitcoin is great, we learned a lot of it. Without Bitcoin we wouldn't have those other cryptocurrencies.
But just because Bitcoin is the pioneer doesn't mean it can't be replaced.
Bitcoin Cash is just a clone with bigger blocks, this will only solve the problem temporarely. So forget about it.

It's clear that Bitcoin isn't the best coin anymore. Problem is because of all this hype there is a lot of new dumb money that only see Bitcoin's insane price growth. That kind of people that leave their money on Coinbase is what I'm talking about (for long term).

If people would look at things more objectlively things wouldn't have gone this way.
I'm not naming other coins because I don't wanna make this a pump post.

Too much dumb investors these days.. Bitcoin is no longer useable in a normal way but noobs will never realize because they never make a transaction to their own wallets because they don't even know it's decentralized and stuff...

I hope Bitcoin will fail soon. It has had enough time to be adapted to its use of today. Why can't Bitcoin be as good as other and better crypto's? I have no idea. But in my eyes it's already game over for Bitcoin.
I know theres gonna be a lot of fanboy hate coming to this post. Don't make them ruin this topic please.

Thanks to those who made Bitcoin possible, we will never forget you. But now it's time to move on.


DEAL WITH IT!!

The way you speak confuses me on bitcoin, in this forum I am new and just a few times getting bitcoin from the results of following the campaign. Here I also get a lot of lessons, but why can you talk like that? But I want to follow bitcoin, to where bitcoin will survive, because bitcoin can change my life from difficult to be easier.
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December 22, 2017, 12:36:21 PM
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I really am a big fan of bitcoin. I admit it. It just amazed me so much. As much as the people or the man behind it(since im not sure if satoshi is a man or a team).
I have stayed loyal to bitcoin since the the very first time i invested on it. But sad to say, op really has a point. I too see great alternative coins out there. If only bitcoin could adapt these other great coins innovative ideas and absorb it, that would make bitcoin more amazing as it is and unstoppable.

But still. I am not losing hope for bitcoin. It has overcome a lot of challenges in the past. Amd if it doesn't overcome this one, then it doesn't deserve the trust and faith that i and a lot of other people have put into it.
I think you are doing the right thing...it's a temporary deterioration and I'm sure that this is not the end for bitcoin...it's just profitable for someone that we think so)
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December 22, 2017, 12:49:46 PM
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Reaction is amusing, so many people hurt... methinks you do protest too much.  Its one persons reasonable view, but everyone want to attack and interpret things not written.
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December 22, 2017, 01:49:52 PM
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I know you have posted this as a reaction to the extreme dump of bitcoin right now. I am not disaggreeing because I also believe that it is time for other coins to shine. There are also several coins with potential that are not given the attention they deserve. Despite of the huge dump of bitcoin price, a lot still believes that it will recover after this holiday and honestly speaking I am one of them. But this does not mean that I am not open to other good coins. I hope everything will be fine and will have an open mind.
I'm not writing this because of the drop. But simply because of the issues (which will probably lead to an even bigger drop).
And yes, I'm am into altcoins like Monero. Personally I think DGB is a better bitcoin version (not invested in that one).

Thanks for your post



Alright

"Bitcoin is king" "Bitcoin will keep growing" "Bitcoin is the leader" "Bitcoin will never be replaced" -newbie.
Why are people still so convinced about this?

Bitcoin is great, we learned a lot of it. Without Bitcoin we wouldn't have those other cryptocurrencies.
But just because Bitcoin is the pioneer doesn't mean it can't be replaced.
Bitcoin Cash is just a clone with bigger blocks, this will only solve the problem temporarely. So forget about it.

It's clear that Bitcoin isn't the best coin anymore. Problem is because of all this hype there is a lot of new dumb money that only see Bitcoin's insane price growth. That kind of people that leave their money on Coinbase is what I'm talking about (for long term).

If people would look at things more objectlively things wouldn't have gone this way.
I'm not naming other coins because I don't wanna make this a pump post.

Too much dumb investors these days.. Bitcoin is no longer useable in a normal way but noobs will never realize because they never make a transaction to their own wallets because they don't even know it's decentralized and stuff...

I hope Bitcoin will fail soon. It has had enough time to be adapted to its use of today. Why can't Bitcoin be as good as other and better crypto's? I have no idea. But in my eyes it's already game over for Bitcoin.
I know theres gonna be a lot of fanboy hate coming to this post. Don't make them ruin this topic please.

Thanks to those who made Bitcoin possible, we will never forget you. But now it's time to move on.


DEAL WITH IT!!


Sounds like you lost some $$ on the recent price drop and your upset about. Investing in btc is for the long haul,btc will take a huge plunge when China and Russia introduce their own crypto in the next 5yrs and outlaw other crypto’s Sure there’s plenty of problems with btc but in 10-15yrs most kinks will be worked out.

I didn't loose $$, I only lost in Bitcoin value because I mostly trade Crypto/BTC instead of Crypto/FIAT.
I didn't make this post because of the Bitcoin drop in $$ but because I am disappointed in many investors that jump on the hype train without learning about Blockchain. There are many people that "have" Bitcoin on sites like Coinbase that don't even know what a private key is! Imagine Coinbase being hacked: Bitcoins image would get a serious hit and people will blame Bitcoin for their losses "because it is unsafe" while it's their own fault by not learning about Bitcoin and backing up thier keys. The first investors in Bitcoin are much smarter I think and did it more out of an interest in technology instead of pure fiat profit.
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December 22, 2017, 02:03:27 PM
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2. Not pumping other coin? Then why do you mention BCH not other coins? and in the next line you mention " why cant bitcoin be as good as other and better crypto? Not only you bashing and lowering bitcoin, it is indeed you pumping other coin (maybe bch) by persuading people to shift into other coins.

Why would I be pumping bch when I say
Bitcoin Cash is just a clone with bigger blocks, this will only solve the problem temporarely. So forget about it.

Your statement doesn't make sense. By the way I think bhc is junk
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December 22, 2017, 02:04:39 PM
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Reaction is amusing, so many people hurt... methinks you do protest too much.  Its one persons reasonable view, but everyone want to attack and interpret things not written.

I know right...
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