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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 26, 2017, 02:22:51 AM
yep.. you gotta feel sorry for those cashing out at only 500-1000% gains.. what a terrible result for them .

HERE is some more math for you in the "I don't know what all the fuss is about" dept

buying another 1k worth of ETH a week ago with the current lift would mean you now have $1331.41.

buying another 1k of Bitcoin a week ago would mean you now have $+1128

buying another 1k of Power Ledger would mean you have in the $2600s

 

Gotta be honest, if I invested in the ICO as heavily as I did while it was at .00008+, I'd have a hard time not cashing out myself. If it 10x's from here I'm probably going to have a hard time calling when/where/how as well Smiley. Long ways to go but I'm happy for the investors that made a killing on this and cashed out, you gotta enjoy the rewards sometimes and not be greedy or hold for too long if you have dreams you want to fulfill and flip the rest in other ways.. I think we'll see some of them return though while we're pumping again.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 26, 2017, 12:45:31 AM
Great project but i think the bull run stops here. The power token is not the token for the energy network, as i understand it that is the sparkz token. You can buy them with power ledger tokens. If the price of power ledger tokens is too volatile then they wont like it and their clients also are not going to like it. I think thats why they partnered up with Bancor, they have some complicated system to rule out great price differences. And if that does not help they could always leave open the option to buy sparkz with fiat money. The power ledger token was only to start up and fund the company. Correct me if iam wrong.

From what I understand, the sparkz token is going to be pinned to every local currency it's used in. So 1 sparks = 1USD, 1CAD, 1___. This protects it from said volatility. This was talked about by Jemma at the panel discussion I recently watched. Not really sure how they are going to role sparkz out and if that coin will also be traded or just used for that in/out layer, we'll see.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 26, 2017, 12:37:46 AM
Hacked.com have come out and called Power Ledger "the future of cheap electricity"..

In the same article they reminded me that Power Ledger Co founder and chair Dr Jemma Green is now also the MAYOR of the city of Perth, the capital city of Western Australia (1.67 million population) - just imagine how that is going to play out in building POWRs further partnerships with business and entrenching their federal and local government relationships!

Absolute killer moves going on here!

They go on to talk about the other co-founder "Bill Tai is an advisor and is a graduate of Harvard. He is a very successful entrepreneur and has been a venture capitalist since 1991".  

Together they top a dream team that are setting new standards for a cryptocurrency based organisation. But more to the point this is why you are seeing rapid fire moves into massive markets and serious deals with major players and electricity suppliers across multiple global regions. Australia, India and Thailand all contracted. They have their eyes on Africa and no doubt the rest of Asia for starters.

Hacked.com go on to say they expect the Power Ledger market cap to quickly double and the ROI to follow suit. the full story is here:

https://www.hacked.com/power-ledger-powr-future-cheap-electricity/amp/

This is amazing.

I think what's also happening now is a lot of traders that made 500%-1000% are still cashing out. The transfer of wealth here is going to more serious and more patient investors that are willing to sit on this not just day/month trade it. The heavy buy walls (also saw a heavy sell wall of 210K powr) that are popping up also shows there are indeed a few whales in here already. That doesn't add anything positive necessarily other than to show some people have invested up to high 6 figures in this.

I think the marketcap is looking very small compared to other vaporware coins with nothing close to the progress Powr has made in a month. If I could only see into Q3 2018.. 5B MC? 10B MC? Or a better question would be = Do you really think this is going to downtrend forever from here vs updtrend heavily? There are 'wants' in life, and there are needs, electricity/energy is a need, for everyone on the planet, so this isn't a creature comfort coin or a fad of the month. TA is almost impossible in crypto however if I were to use it, we're getting tighter and tighter by the hour it seems, breakout soon is imminent, as soon as more news hits, or someone big either dumps or pumps we're going to see the momentum pick up again imo, next run I'll call at $1.20 - $1.50. I'll also guess that we'll reach a low of $.70 - $.75c and maybe a sharp knife added before we see the momentum turn positive.

EDIT: Well what do you know, there's our knife, and volume on bittrex just went from 1.7K to 1.8K and rising, after these dumps the reversal MIGHT be what we've been waiting for. If not we'll see more dumps from those trying to protect their ICO gains..
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 24, 2017, 07:34:28 AM
I REALLY wish there was no such thing as a sig bounty. Shame that this thread is going to get way more polluted with bullshit sig bait posts now. ^ looking at you guys.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 24, 2017, 12:38:42 AM
^ Good shit.

Great post before this one too nice breakdown. I'm already overexposed but also looking at 7figures if this does a few multiples from here which I think it will. NO FEAR Smiley.

I'll throw a loose prediction out there of a 1Billion MC before the end of the year conservatively, 2-3billion is more than likely though. So $3-$5+ range, my next milly by xmas let's goooo.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 23, 2017, 10:48:17 PM
Well, call me crazy, just sat here and super analyzed the project again - volume still growing - this dip got bought right up. I just went to my reserves and took out 5 more BTC to invest into this. This is both a show of faith and me taking a risk publicly, let's see if I get rekt or if my experience pays off. No DCA'ing in just bought everything at .000096-98. #CalculatedlyReklessButItsOKIHaveMore

Good on ya 5 BTC more POWR! Seems as I really bought the peak yesterday haha. It was a good decision not to rush things though, so I bought my second batch for less today. Excited what tomorrow brings. Today was a weak day for POWR but a strong for the overall market i suppose. Do you think that there will be a general pullback soon? I mean
Market Cap of $256.218.142.513 at the moment is a number. Maybe we will see people cashing out soon?! Curious about your opinion!

My thoughts:

Volume on Bittrex during the pump: 17-18KBTC, today it's at 7K, might drop more. However the price is holding, people aren't letting it drop as more new money/members come in. This is a really good sign, all while there are some serious pumps going on in other alts. I would usually maximize this, dump a lot to make gains elsewhere for the day, and come back to this at days end to pick up more with my gains... but I'm not touching it, probably for a few weeks (stop losses/extremes aside).

The weekend is about to roll in (usually slow for alts, but lately not so much), daytraders take a break, weekend traders come in, and on Buy-Back-Monday we get more announcements. So I think if we see any more pullback it will be both shortlived and marginal, not enough for me to play the swings or risk variable change happening as I maneuver. Kinda feels good, just sitting back and disregarding my other positions atm. I got in at 00008, 9, and 10. Zooming out on the charts, the 'steps' look very healthy, higher highs and higher lows each step, the next wave looks like it will be the biggest too as we look at the volume halfpiping peak to peak nicely, I see great things ahead.

The marketcap is rather insane for such a new coin however not really when you compare it to other rises of 'good' coins (omg, neo, etc) with good teams. This is still a baby, but also as close to a 'sure shot' as I think we'll see when combining all the elements of what make a coin moon, stay there, and moon again, I do see this as a top 10/20 and staying there. Not to mention this one just feels good re their objectives, restricting coins in circ, locking pre-mine for x years, and of course current use cases (we all love the planet/renewables/etc), this will cross pollinate well internationally as more people discover it.

It did get me thinking about the big picture though, will the world really let a little AUS company run the worlds electricity, or will each region start to develop their own, go down exploration roads to try to mimic PowR only to get lost and join them to lessen the gap and lose money in the interim.. or would this be easy to deploy once first to market is positioned and can be blue-printed. Either way their current moves and international deals are impressive, Monday should stimulate price action, and by then the eb and flow of crypto money moving around pumping whatevers next might take us over a $1 anyway.

.02
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 23, 2017, 07:30:49 AM
Live right now: Jemma talking on a panel about POWR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViAez7Kr6ww
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 23, 2017, 06:51:09 AM
Well, call me crazy, just sat here and super analyzed the project again - volume still growing - this dip got bought right up. I just went to my reserves and took out 5 more BTC to invest into this. This is both a show of faith and me taking a risk publicly, let's see if I get rekt or if my experience pays off. No DCA'ing in just bought everything at .000096-98. #CalculatedlyReklessButItsOKIHaveMore
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 23, 2017, 12:50:48 AM
^ No problem, thank you for showing appreciation - I enjoyed the brain dump and helping out. Feel free to ask whatever anytime if I catch it I'll reply in detail.

I would recommend signing up to BitFinex and Polo as well. I HATE HitBTC - however - there is a time and place for everything. You'll learn about arbitrage soon but in short: Bittrex listed BTG recently, it climbed like CRAZY. It was only on HITBTC re deposits being accepted before this. So for about 10hours there was a HUGE differential between prices on two exchanges (in this case it started as more than 300% as it skyrocketed on BITTREX there was not enough coins or money on HITBTC, easy to be a whale there Wink). So This is where it gets scammy - when the arb is too huge, they cap deposits/withdrawls under the guise of "system maintenance, software upgrades, or flat out 'deposits/withdrawls are currently disabled".

It's random, and the site is fragile from growth so order books don't fire, pages don't load or take long, confirmations and waiting on TX's to go through are stressful. So I had xxx btg on HITBTC and xx BTC on Bittrex. I transfer the BTG from HITBTC to BITTREX while sending the BTC from BITTREX to HITBTC. Sell the BTG on bittrex for 300% BTC, and immediately send the BTC back to HITBTC (or you can use ETH/sometimes faster). Now I have the first round of BITTREX BTC at HITBTC and am buying BTG it again at 300% discount with the profits from Bittrex also coming back into HITBTC as BTC... Repeat this process as often as you can as the prices even out between exchanges and you just tripled your money. In my case I only managed to do two rounds, and on my third and biggest loop around, my BTG got stuck in HITBTC withdrawl confirmed mode for 8hrs and then returned to hitbtc, and by then the prices were synced everywhere.. Still though those two rounds just doubled me. Doesn't happen often but once you understand the 'whole' eco-system and watch enough whales manip order books/systems, you start to become one and fuck up less while winning more in creative ways.
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 23, 2017, 12:01:35 AM


Again, very interesting comments here! I now feel tempted to buy-in regardless of my fear. Im really not a pro or anything near it, so I just want to accumulate some knowledge here: what makes you think that it wont retrace more than the current price? Even with those new points of view, I stick to: nobody can predict the market! POWR could go way higher, but at the same time if speculators start to cash out weak hands will follow and can cause a crash. When and if this is goint to happen? Nobody can tell. But I've learned to respect the market the hard way. I will just see where it goes by putting tranches of my investment in there, day by day, and see where we are heading.

I've learned to respect the market too, through getting rekt many times, thus "becoming a pro at something is failing at it from every angle and knowing how not to make the same mistakes, or minimize them". Past market history isn't always accurate, however past experience and pattern recognition of momentum and wealth preservation solutions come into play and are strict.

Example. Buy in now, all in. Start to sell a little as it goes up IF you are afraid of the loss. Now you have profit and some reserve to buy a dip. Be brave and sell the dip to buy back lower (or lose your shirt), sell half once a decent profit is reached so you feel safe, etc. There are many ways to not get rekt, stop losses, scaled orders of small profit, etc. etc. Opportunities like this are infrequent and this is not a group pump or parabolic 2 day climb/drop, I actually feel extremely safe both playing this markets swings AND hodling if I was new again.

*Sometimes 'timing the market, is time in the market. I'd rather have my money in and be prepared/insured to pull out on a stop loss vs being on the side lines watching lost profit if I was in.

EDIT: We are consolidating as I type this, there's your dip, I don't think we'll see this again until we pass $1, anything can happen from there but the news/PR/buzz/blogs/YouTubeVideosetc. are going to hype it like fuck from there imo like any milestone.

Thanks again for this nice input. I just entered and bought myself a first batch of POWR. I didnt go all in though. I will buy small batches every day to minimize the risk. I have a lot to learn on my way to become a good trader as it seems (but I already knew that before). Lets see how far we can go here, I'm very curious how this whole thing will develop.

EDIT: Just realized that if I waited 10 Minutes I would have some more POWR now, guess thats how it goes! Excited what its like tomorrow!

Happy for you. You're human, you WILL have fear/greed/whatifs/fackkkkkk/yayyyyyyyy rollercoasters from here. Learn to embrace them and never trade on emotion. Pretend you're a computer. Once it goes up and you're in profit set a stop loss when you go to sleep OR be ok with the swings and always remember TSE (Time Shifts Everything - zoom out on charts - don't be stuck on 1min candles look at others vs this one moment in time). *Also, there is only so much TA you can do, this eco-system is very news/spec/rumor/hype driven, so charting stuff often goes left due to random variable change along the oscillations...

EDIT: If it falls more, that's when you buy more as it goes down and oscillates back up so you DCA by the time it upswings again. I just grabbed more and am waiting kinda hoping it dips a bit more from here before liftoff.

EDIT 2: Really strong support at 105, doubt we're going lower, let's see how this reversal goes.

Wise words here, especially in regards to the cryptomarket I totally agree. I would say that this space is totally unpredictable, maybe daytrader can predict with TA to a certain degree, but also this can sometimes go south in this market.
About the stop-loss orders, I think I will hold for some time anyways and can live with the swings. One thing I am always wondering though: is there also an ordertype for buying at a certain price? For example if I want to go to sleep and but am scared that the price is going to moon overnight so I set an order to buy at a certain price level? Maybe its a really silly question, but as you have been so nice with me, maybe you can answer it. I made the mistake once (when trying this) to place a limit order at a way higher price than it was currently trading. As soon as I placed it, I ended up buying the coins for that price. Felt kinda dumb afterwards...  

On Bittrex ORDER TYPE set it to CONDITIONAL - then click CONDITION and you have options there to buy/sell at or below/above whatever price Smiley. Certain exchanges offer certain features others don't. HITBTC has one of the best order systems but their exchange is extremely fragile and small liquidity on most coins so it's overkill until they step their shit up. I WISH bittrex had the HITBTC features or even BITFINEX where you can hide orders, do stop limits, scaled orders on auto, not really sure why bittrex isn't focusing on this stuff but they're so huge I guess for them maintaining systems and userbase growth is paramount so I doubt we'll see a change any time soon.

EDIT: Also this is on a few other exchanges that are big, bittrex leads, Binance is at half. When this coin makes its way to other major exchanges (I think they will add it fast as they are losing on trading commission and this coin has proved itself safe re what exchanges look for), it's going to open you up to those exchanges markets and features. I would advise that you get comfy with at least 3 exchanges slowly so you can have a better birds eye view of the market. I tend to keep tabs/windows open for all exchanges I have positions in or coins in, sometimes one exchange leads by enough time that you have an advantage to make your trades on the secondary exchange as it follows tit for tat most times with a small delay... that and you can make better overall decisions should you ever get into hyper trading for max gains on the days swings.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 22, 2017, 11:21:54 PM


Again, very interesting comments here! I now feel tempted to buy-in regardless of my fear. Im really not a pro or anything near it, so I just want to accumulate some knowledge here: what makes you think that it wont retrace more than the current price? Even with those new points of view, I stick to: nobody can predict the market! POWR could go way higher, but at the same time if speculators start to cash out weak hands will follow and can cause a crash. When and if this is goint to happen? Nobody can tell. But I've learned to respect the market the hard way. I will just see where it goes by putting tranches of my investment in there, day by day, and see where we are heading.

I've learned to respect the market too, through getting rekt many times, thus "becoming a pro at something is failing at it from every angle and knowing how not to make the same mistakes, or minimize them". Past market history isn't always accurate, however past experience and pattern recognition of momentum and wealth preservation solutions come into play and are strict.

Example. Buy in now, all in. Start to sell a little as it goes up IF you are afraid of the loss. Now you have profit and some reserve to buy a dip. Be brave and sell the dip to buy back lower (or lose your shirt), sell half once a decent profit is reached so you feel safe, etc. There are many ways to not get rekt, stop losses, scaled orders of small profit, etc. etc. Opportunities like this are infrequent and this is not a group pump or parabolic 2 day climb/drop, I actually feel extremely safe both playing this markets swings AND hodling if I was new again.

*Sometimes 'timing the market, is time in the market. I'd rather have my money in and be prepared/insured to pull out on a stop loss vs being on the side lines watching lost profit if I was in.

EDIT: We are consolidating as I type this, there's your dip, I don't think we'll see this again until we pass $1, anything can happen from there but the news/PR/buzz/blogs/YouTubeVideosetc. are going to hype it like fuck from there imo like any milestone.

Thanks again for this nice input. I just entered and bought myself a first batch of POWR. I didnt go all in though. I will buy small batches every day to minimize the risk. I have a lot to learn on my way to become a good trader as it seems (but I already knew that before). Lets see how far we can go here, I'm very curious how this whole thing will develop.

EDIT: Just realized that if I waited 10 Minutes I would have some more POWR now, guess thats how it goes! Excited what its like tomorrow!

 Once it goes up and you're in profit set a stop loss when you go to sleep

Stop loss orders are made to be filled by daytraders.  I only use them at 20% lower than bidding price so they dpn't get picked up easily.  But even then... If you believe in a project and you made more than 100% gains, put your stop loss at 50% of current price or even lower.  You can actyally go down in a rising market on stop loss orders and FOMO next day.

^Yes well put, I should have stated stop losses can work against you, however for the new trader that is most worried about losing their investment or panic selling manually and just want piece of mind while they sleep this is what I used to do. And yes I fomo'd in some days because of it so learned to % balance in creative ways and even set buy orders way lower than stop loss orders scaled etc.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 22, 2017, 11:01:35 PM


Again, very interesting comments here! I now feel tempted to buy-in regardless of my fear. Im really not a pro or anything near it, so I just want to accumulate some knowledge here: what makes you think that it wont retrace more than the current price? Even with those new points of view, I stick to: nobody can predict the market! POWR could go way higher, but at the same time if speculators start to cash out weak hands will follow and can cause a crash. When and if this is goint to happen? Nobody can tell. But I've learned to respect the market the hard way. I will just see where it goes by putting tranches of my investment in there, day by day, and see where we are heading.

I've learned to respect the market too, through getting rekt many times, thus "becoming a pro at something is failing at it from every angle and knowing how not to make the same mistakes, or minimize them". Past market history isn't always accurate, however past experience and pattern recognition of momentum and wealth preservation solutions come into play and are strict.

Example. Buy in now, all in. Start to sell a little as it goes up IF you are afraid of the loss. Now you have profit and some reserve to buy a dip. Be brave and sell the dip to buy back lower (or lose your shirt), sell half once a decent profit is reached so you feel safe, etc. There are many ways to not get rekt, stop losses, scaled orders of small profit, etc. etc. Opportunities like this are infrequent and this is not a group pump or parabolic 2 day climb/drop, I actually feel extremely safe both playing this markets swings AND hodling if I was new again.

*Sometimes 'timing the market, is time in the market. I'd rather have my money in and be prepared/insured to pull out on a stop loss vs being on the side lines watching lost profit if I was in.

EDIT: We are consolidating as I type this, there's your dip, I don't think we'll see this again until we pass $1, anything can happen from there but the news/PR/buzz/blogs/YouTubeVideosetc. are going to hype it like fuck from there imo like any milestone.

Thanks again for this nice input. I just entered and bought myself a first batch of POWR. I didnt go all in though. I will buy small batches every day to minimize the risk. I have a lot to learn on my way to become a good trader as it seems (but I already knew that before). Lets see how far we can go here, I'm very curious how this whole thing will develop.

EDIT: Just realized that if I waited 10 Minutes I would have some more POWR now, guess thats how it goes! Excited what its like tomorrow!

Happy for you. You're human, you WILL have fear/greed/whatifs/fackkkkkk/yayyyyyyyy rollercoasters from here. Learn to embrace them and never trade on emotion. Pretend you're a computer. Once it goes up and you're in profit set a stop loss when you go to sleep OR be ok with the swings and always remember TSE (Time Shifts Everything - zoom out on charts - don't be stuck on 1min candles look at others vs this one moment in time). *Also, there is only so much TA you can do, this eco-system is very news/spec/rumor/hype driven, so charting stuff often goes left due to random variable change along the oscillations...

EDIT: If it falls more, that's when you buy more as it goes down and oscillates back up so you DCA by the time it upswings again. I just grabbed more and am waiting kinda hoping it dips a bit more from here before liftoff.

EDIT 2: Really strong support at 105, doubt we're going lower, let's see how this reversal goes.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 22, 2017, 10:12:14 PM
lol YEP. We can summarize again:

BUY
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 22, 2017, 09:53:29 PM
Are people on here really saying experts buy high and sell higher lol good one, what a strategy. Your saying that these experts have some crystal ball showing that a coin is going to go higher then it is, I don't think so. They buy the dips and look at the history of the coin, if it has been high many times before then the chances are that dip will reverse at some stage. To buy a new coin with no history of peaks is the stupidest thing you can do.

Look at all the coins that have had 50, 60, 70+ increase yesterday, would you buy half of them because they are high. I don't think so.

In saying that I plan on investing on POWR but not while its the highest it has been, what goes up always pulls back a bit. Id rather fatten my BTC stack on some guaranteed rises then risk buying on a high 'like an expert'

Good points, just to stimulate some positive debate, I'll disagree from a certain angle. Yes I consider myself above average/pro/whatever (aka done very well, since 2013ish). I buy highs (lows too obviously), that are predictably or unpredictably going higher, and I scale exit anticipating dips, however tomorrows dips might not dip enough to match todays prices. This coin is a rarity, can't really be looked at as a universal pattern or what pros typically do or don't do every formula and %/variable change is different for everyone. This is more akin to a NEO/OMG/WALTON organic rise coupled with real world events and the bonues of no hype re stickers on skateboards or pre-announcing news for 3 days to stimulate said hype and be let down. This is is a pleasant surprise in our eco-system and I am not dollarCostAveraging at all on this one (already in heavy profit since that decision and scaled exits along the way to buy dips as stated above).

I don't believe the retracement/pullback is going to be lower than todays price and if so not by enough. The 10K sats psychological barrier has blown by, the $1 barrier is next, from there I think we're going to see momentum continue to go crazy. Could be totally wrong but as a random internet guy looking out for fellow investors best interests (who enjoy some risk and are ok if there is some loss), I wouldn't wait another second on this one.

Again, very interesting comments here! I now feel tempted to buy-in regardless of my fear. Im really not a pro or anything near it, so I just want to accumulate some knowledge here: what makes you think that it wont retrace more than the current price? Even with those new points of view, I stick to: nobody can predict the market! POWR could go way higher, but at the same time if speculators start to cash out weak hands will follow and can cause a crash. When and if this is goint to happen? Nobody can tell. But I've learned to respect the market the hard way. I will just see where it goes by putting tranches of my investment in there, day by day, and see where we are heading.

I've learned to respect the market too, through getting rekt many times, thus "becoming a pro at something is failing at it from every angle and knowing how not to make the same mistakes, or minimize them". Past market history isn't always accurate re predicting what will happen in the future, however past experience and pattern recognition of momentum and wealth preservation solutions come into play and are strict.

Example. Buy in now, all in. Start to sell a little as it goes up IF you are afraid of the loss. Now you have profit and some reserve to buy a dip. Be brave and sell the dip to buy back lower (or lose your shirt), sell half once a decent profit is reached so you feel safe, etc. There are many ways to not get rekt, stop losses, scaled orders of small profit, etc. etc. Opportunities like this are infrequent and this is not a group pump or parabolic 2 day climb/drop, I actually feel extremely safe both playing this markets swings AND hodling if I was new again.

*Sometimes 'timing the market, is time in the market. I'd rather have my money in and be prepared/insured to pull out on a stop loss vs being on the side lines watching lost profit if I was in.

EDIT: We are consolidating as I type this, there's your dip, I don't think we'll see this again until we pass $1, anything can happen from there but the news/PR/buzz/blogs/YouTubeVideosetc. are going to hype it like fuck from there imo like any milestone.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 22, 2017, 09:36:18 PM
Are people on here really saying experts buy high and sell higher lol good one, what a strategy. Your saying that these experts have some crystal ball showing that a coin is going to go higher then it is, I don't think so. They buy the dips and look at the history of the coin, if it has been high many times before then the chances are that dip will reverse at some stage. To buy a new coin with no history of peaks is the stupidest thing you can do.

Look at all the coins that have had 50, 60, 70+ increase yesterday, would you buy half of them because they are high. I don't think so.

In saying that I plan on investing on POWR but not while its the highest it has been, what goes up always pulls back a bit. Id rather fatten my BTC stack on some guaranteed rises then risk buying on a high 'like an expert'

Good points, just to stimulate some positive debate, I'll disagree from a certain angle. Yes I consider myself above average/pro/whatever (aka done very well, since 2013ish). I buy highs (lows too obviously), that are predictably or unpredictably going higher, and I scale exit anticipating dips, however tomorrows dips might not dip enough to match todays prices. This coin is a rarity, can't really be looked at as a universal pattern or what pros typically do or don't do every formula and %/variable change is different for everyone. This is more akin to a NEO/OMG/WALTON organic rise coupled with real world events and the bonues of no hype re stickers on skateboards or pre-announcing news for 3 days to stimulate said hype and be let down. This is is a pleasant surprise in our eco-system and I am not dollarCostAveraging at all on this one (already in heavy profit since that decision and scaled exits along the way to buy dips as stated above).

I don't believe the retracement/pullback is going to be lower than todays price and if so not by enough. The 10K sats psychological barrier has blown by, the $1 barrier is next, from there I think we're going to see momentum continue to go crazy. Could be totally wrong but as a random internet guy looking out for fellow investors best interests re profits (who enjoy some risk and are ok if there is some loss), I wouldn't wait another second on this one.

EDIT: And as I typed this we reached another ATH and climbing, looks like we're hitting that $1 barrier very shortly, this should be a good test re above statements.
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** on: November 22, 2017, 08:14:57 PM
Great project.

Got gun shy about ICO's after getting burned by a few so stopped looking, this however is reminding me of early days of OmiseGo and Ants/NEO. Looking at the fundamentals, the team, and crazy amount of legit press/deals/etc happening, I see this marketcap and go "huh? This is going to billions for sure". It might oscillate a lot on the way however I see very quick gains (already up a lot $%) both short and long term. Got a ton of them now and just hodling while buying dips.

Random internet guy prediction: "1billion marketcap within 2weeks to a month/eoy" making it just under $3, I'll go ahead and say $3.50 even.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OmiseGo on: October 24, 2017, 02:31:07 PM
Are you really seeking some traditional TA answer? This is crypto, nothing and everything makes sense. Who would have thought no implementation just meetings and handshakes and pictures and roadmaps would get it this far - but it has. I can see $50-100 in the coming months as well. Implementation doesn't happen overnight, however over-month a lot can happen.

Big things to come are wallet dev/launch, the airdrop sept.4- 1 week (could do nothing, could bring great awareness over the month), blockchain dev, the value in/out layer in their crypto-tied-payment-system, and whatever other random news hits (techcrunch, other demo's) that we don't know about yet. This is actually the most active team in main-streaming crypto imo.

Why are you copying/pasting my stuff to build up your post count arsehole?

EDIT: So is the guy just above this post, taken from the previous page... shitposters gonna shitpost (or bots?), report these accounts they are building rep up to scam ppl.
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OmiseGo on: October 24, 2017, 02:26:35 PM
It is not a appealing coin it is surely top 20 altcoins but listed on only 1 good exchange and the coin doesn't have any different features i had never done much research about the coin nor it's price if i was you i wouldn't put much in it maybe the only bet you can do is hope it get's listed on more places if that happens then you can make good profits

What are you talking about??

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/omisego/#markets

It's listed on all the majors, and differentiates quite a bit re tech to come (not to mention first to market re plasma).
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OmiseGo on: October 24, 2017, 02:24:52 PM
There's no staking info yet - get up to date at their reddit most news drops there first (or twitter).

https://www.reddit.com/r/omise_go/
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OmiseGo on: October 24, 2017, 02:17:59 PM
...and UpBit listing - https://www.upbit.com/exchange?code=CRIX.UPBIT.BTC-OMG# volume is huge.
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