PM with teamy5892 posted below. This is why I've requested to conduct business in the thread. I doubt that teamy5892 intends to send $800 to the WU location - and as figured... he's requesting that I send him coins now. I'll pay $375 for the 0.7btc
Hi, please post in the thread I've done that. Send me your details like name, country and zipcode I responded to you in the thread... I'll only do WU for 1 BTC or more Will you sell me 1.5btc for $800? yes, I can do 1.5. 800? That's more than the going rate... why so much? I used preev.com/btc/usd I will use bitstamp rate 1:1 at time of transaction. Send your details now. I can send you the money in about 1hr on my way home from work. Okay - I don't need to send you my name. You'll have to send me the MTCN number after you transfer the funds. that number will be used to for me to pick it. You can send it to any zip in the greater Charleston, SC area. Ok. I will send now to a Western Union® Agent location at 435 King St Charleston, SC 29403-6232 Send the BTC to my address now. 13M9FtvZz4KibHgYbYWUL5wt1wXqC19H84 Not only is $800 way above the cost for 1.5btc, this buyer is requesting that I send first. I've also asked him who he intends to use for escrow (which only serves to protect him), and he's yet to answer that. I do not trust this user, and I will add appropriate feedback to his username. The last thing I'd want is for a seller who doesn't know any better to fall for this trick. |
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Hello,
I need to convert some of my coins to fiat now. I'm selling via Western Union (cash only, credit cards can be charged back), or bank wire. If by WU, you'll need to buy a min of 1BTC. I may consider other payment options (PP, Skrill) from established trusted members ONLY. These are just the quickest
check your PM I saw your offer, thanks. However, I lost BTC using a site like this before... the funds never arrived to my PP. I'm not saying it was your site, just similar service. |
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[iquote author=teamy5892 link=topic=753804.msg8515463#msg8515463 date=1408904012]
I'll pay $375 for 0.7BTC
Ok... What how do you want to buy, the method? I'll pay you through WesternUnion. Send me your name, country and postal code/zipcode in PM [/quote] I'm sorry, I'm not about to just drop my name and zipcode that easily. You don't need my name to send me cash to WU, I'll give you a pseudo name and password. Now who do you want to use for escrow? Or are you planning to just send me cash WU trusting that I'd send the coins? |
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[iquote author=teamy5892 link=topic=753804.msg8515463#msg8515463 date=1408904012]
I'll pay $375 for 0.7BTC
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Ok... What how do you want to buy, the method?
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It would help if you provided profit/loss figures, a balance sheet, traffic states, list of assets etc. Making people come to you for these details will deter people making an offer since its quite cheap to build your own site these days.
Not true. Yes, it's quite cheap to build your own... I'm sure a lot cheaper than taking ownership of an already established casino with custom games  but requesting potential buyers to contact them shouldn't be a deterrence, at least not for serious operators. |
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Has compensation been offered? Yes.
Has it been accepted? No.
Why? When you don't accept the offer for compensation what is the end goal:
Is it extortion?
Is it seeking a more equitable solution?
Or is it to inflict more defamation on the "Seller" regardless of the compensation offered so that you can put the "Seller" out of business permanently?
Given the vigor with which the "Customer" and the "Brother" refuse to discuss receiving compensation I suspect there is no resolution available because their goal is not fair compensation.
Who else has had problems with Beastlymac and what were the resolution he had for those other errors and mistakes? There seems to be more evidence in the group buy threads for solutions being offered and accepted than endless back and forth discussions like this thread in the forums. Are we looking at 1 customer that can't accept a resolution or are we looking at a pattern?
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When an error is made and the "Seller" tries to rectify it and the "Customer" continually clouds and misrepresents the "Seller",(as documented here in this thread), and does not take the compensation at some point you have to take responsibility as a "Customer" to find the best solution and move on. In this case it is clear that the "Customer" is not acting in good faith given that the "Seller" is trying to make amends.
I think you're missing the point. None of this would've happened had the seller communicated with the buyer after the refund was requested. If you read the conversations from the beginning, you'll see several times the seller had ample opportunity to tell the seller that he wasn't getting a refund. Again, it wasn't until months later that the buyer was told this - he had no idea his order was placed with the manufacturer because his name wasn't on the public buy list. If you requested a refund a couple of days after you made order - then saw that your name wasn't on the buy list when it was published - what would you think? Exactly. Nothing you said here is relevant in this situation - not even close. The error came in the form of the seller not properly communicating with buyer - that's what this boils down to. But at least you see that an error was made by the seller. Errors happen indeed. Point is, why is the customer left to deal with a loss caused by an error made by the seller? And compensation for an order that the buyer was led to believe was cancelled days after he placed it... why would anyone except it? The buyer didn't want the device anymore, he cancelled it. He was never told he wasn't getting a refund. Had he been told that in the beginning - he could've taken appropriate action, like selling his order. Because of an error (failure to communicate) of the seller, the customer is left to accept a measly .05 for a device he originally paid 2.1 btc for. Yes, this is definitely trying to rectify the situation. Would you accept that when you could've sold your order for close to what you paid for it had you were told you weren't getting a refund? Of course you wouldn't. |
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I am interested - can only do Skrill -Neteller isn't avaible in the States. I'm not very familiar with Skrill's policy in terms of chargebacks. Can you please advise? Thanks! Hi, Skrill don't chargeback easily, but there is some risk always if sender try. Mostly skrill chargeback when funded through Credit cards. My fund from betting site so they don't do till there will be valid reason for them. Skrill is far better then Paypal. Paypal mostly reverse the transaction after dispute but Skrill don't. Okay kewl. Are you able to append a message, similar to paypal's invoice for Skrill? And how many did you want to buy and who do you want to use for escrow? |
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Wait a minute... Why are we DOXin Jerrod? He took off with people's coin or something? I'm confused... I haven't used this service in a long time, but I've purchased well over 15k worth of BTC from btcquick and had no issues... Can someone let people know what the hell is going on??? And you forgot the Twitter. That was the primary way to contact him. I created a twitter account just to keep tabs of their supply and to check my order if it were delayed for some reason. You'll see a tweet from me demanding my 5btc, lol. Oh, the good old days. I dont understand yet, why this has come back around, and i will delete this post if the shareholders and BTCQuick have subsequent agreement/s in place i am not aware of....but at the time, his shareholders didnt receive anything close to a clear breakdown of his business revenues. Therefore, you could only conclude that funds were being siphoned off by him, and shared between himself and Marco Santori in the shape of a retainer. Stereotype/ Lucky Cris, Jerrod did two illegal things with his BTCQuick scam. 1. He sold unregistered securities 2. He stole 100% of the investors money There is an ongoing investigation with the Colorado Department of Regulatory Agencies Division of Securities. I am working with stock security & fraud lawyers to start litigation against him and the company. I am also planning on filing a complaint this week with the SEC. Good god - I didn't know this!!! In that case, please carry on. I hope it all works out for you. Keep up up to date |
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Just curious.. Roulette says 21,638 for three 0's in a row.. is that 21,638 BTC? or $21,638 in USD equally however many BTC.
it should be 2.1638 btc That can't be right. I just won a 1200.00 Keno with 8 numbers and it came out to be 1.2BTC. Some of our games support different credit sizes for the games. You must have been playing 0.001 BTC/credit, so 1200 credits would be 1.2 BTC. You can see what credit size you are playing by looking for the BTC button which will say something like "0.0001" or "0.001". If you click that you can change your credit size. Games like blackjack, roulette, craps and dice only have a single 0.0001 BTC credit size. You can just bet more credits if you want to bet more. A while back when we added different credit sizes we were worried that it could be confusing for some people. Sorry about that...  So for the slot jackpot winners below... Which bet size were they based .001 or .01 bets? Thanks The most recent Slots jackpot for 24.38 BTC, was with a credit size of 0.001 BTC. 10 BTC was the base payout, and 14.38 BTC was from the progressive jackpot contribution. If you win the 0.01 BTC credit jackpot for slots, you will win 217.85 BTC. This prize will grow as more people contribute to the jackpot. Gotcha. Just realized I wasn't accounting for for all 20 lines  20 x .001 = .02 total bet. And by the way... I'm totally star  and owe Bitcoin Video Casino an apology. I'll strike through those words in my earlier posts. |
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Just curious.. Roulette says 21,638 for three 0's in a row.. is that 21,638 BTC? or $21,638 in USD equally however many BTC.
it should be 2.1638 btc That can't be right. I just won a 1200.00 Keno with 8 numbers and it came out to be 1.2BTC. Some of our games support different credit sizes for the games. You must have been playing 0.001 BTC/credit, so 1200 credits would be 1.2 BTC. You can see what credit size you are playing by looking for the BTC button which will say something like "0.0001" or "0.001". If you click that you can change your credit size. Games like blackjack, roulette, craps and dice only have a single 0.0001 BTC credit size. You can just bet more credits if you want to bet more. A while back when we added different credit sizes we were worried that it could be confusing for some people. Sorry about that... So for the slot jackpot winners below... Which bet size were they based .001 or .01 bets? Thanks |
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Added to op Is this still active???
Mr, Spread - you here? I want to make my first installment payment for the bet I lost...
Yes, I'm here Edit Ok thanks I didn't read any of the thread, just saw it's been a couple days. Anyhoo, I'll be sending your first payment tonight. I'd do it now, but on my iPad. Sent https://blockchain.info/address/1MSL9Ph2RCUnpekpuf6Rofb4kUo1nArsnS |
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Biggest issue is that at what point a review becomes an endorsement? if anything goes wrong later on anyway, the endorser will be scrutinized and worse, accused of colluding etc...
I might off track with what you're talking about... It's been a while since I read this thread... So so many other things renting space in my head, I have to dump more often than I'd like :-/ I agree with you. An official seal of approval is treading dangerous ground. About what I stated... It wouldn't be an approval of the coin, just informational. Supporters or not can take it how they want to. I already jotted down a list of KPIs relating to the coin's marketability, sustainability, performance and such (not that I was serious... But just in case, while it was on my mind) that could be used as the baseline 'report' if you will. The idea would be to review the code and provide assessment (sloppy, malicious, clueless dev didn't change this type of stuff) both good and bad. I also thought proving background info in the dev is a good touch ie involved in this scamcoin, etc. Also look into the claims that so and so will be accepting our coin. Hope that ^ made sense, this damn iPad sucks, lol. |
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Wait a minute... Why are we DOXin Jerrod? He took off with people's coin or something? I'm confused... I haven't used this service in a long time, but I've purchased well over 15k worth of BTC from btcquick and had no issues... Can someone let people know what the hell is going on??? And you forgot the Twitter. That was the primary way to contact him. I created a twitter account just to keep tabs of their supply and to check my order if it were delayed for some reason. You'll see a tweet from me demanding my 5btc, lol. Oh, the good old days. |
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I am interested - can only do Skrill -Neteller isn't avaible in the States. I'm not very familiar with Skrill's policy in terms of chargebacks. Can you please advise? Thanks! |
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Looking to buy 2 BTC at Bitstamp rate. PM me. I want to do this tonight.
Tonight is fine. So is Bitstamp's rate. Who do you have in mind for escrow? |
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Hello,
I need to convert some of my coins to fiat now. I'm selling via Western Union (cash only, credit cards can be charged back), or bank wire. If by WU, you'll need to buy a min of 1BTC. I may consider other payment options (PP, Skrill) from established trusted members ONLY. These are just the quickest way I can think of... if you ask why not use LBC - I don't anymore after having 7btc (when they were over 1k) stolen from me. oh, I do have a Greendot money card... but they refuse to allow me to use the codes to load card (made deposits from codes from around the US; like that's any of their business anyway, but whatever). But I believe you can also do a money transfer directly from your card. I'm not familiar with this.
Conditions:
* All deals discussed in this thread (obviously not personal info; needed for bank wire I believe?)
* Coins sold at current exchange rate (we can use Coinbase) - I'm not trying to rape you
* Buy pays escrow - must be established member agreed upon by both of us
* We can discuss a discount if you buy more than one coin
Hope we can do business, thanks!
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Is this still active???
Mr, Spread - you here? I want to make my first installment payment for the bet I lost...
Is active. And by the way working great! k, good I just want to make sure dev hadn't jump ship - that's all. No need to pay him if he's no longer here  |
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Is this still active???
Mr, Spread - you here? I want to make my first installment payment for the bet I lost...
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It doesn't look like they canceled your order because the price went up, they canceled it because their internal risk models showed you as being a high risk customer. They likely do not take price into consideration when deciding if they are going to cancel a transaction as this would be negative to their reputation. With that being said I would highly doubt that a lot of people are going to be complaining that they canceled their order when the market turned against them.
OKAY - You need to STFU. Evidently you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Just STOP trying to talk about something you know nothing about. You ever placed a 10btc order with them? You ever sold to them in 20btc + increments? Evidently NOT because you'd know how they get you. So step the fuck aside and let the people who's experienced with Coinbase's scammy ass ways do the talking. Yes - Coinbase is known for cancelling orders. But I'm not about to waste my time explaining their methods - go search the damn forum. He'll you even find where I posted how they got me when I SOLD btc! Yes, it goes both ways - buying and selling. You best believe Coinbase is looking out for them. And negative to their reputation?! Puh leez - They have several SCAMMER's threads here . |
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Yip I agree completely with that as well. I asked Beastly and he said he sent OP a message in March ( I think it was) advising his items were ready for be sent out. He is still in the process of finding the PM to show us. If he does manage to find the PM my opinion will change.... Not friends with OP or the brother, never even spoken to them before... I just didn't like how they were being treated, based on the evidence that had been presented, so far - Evidence like screenshots, PMs etc etc.. as opposed to both parties just telling there side of the story... I don't think ANYONE is a scammer but I strongly disagree with some business practices that has been shown. So you can't find a message that says his order was not sent for processing on the 7th that is because it was.
I thought this issue would've been over by now  But this is the reason why this all came about in the first place: lack of communication. You're right, there wasn't a message that the order wasn't sent for processing... There also wasn't a message stating that the order was sent for processing either, but there should have been... Well, it was, but months too late. Look at this from the buyer's viewpoint... His name wasn't on the list of orders so he wouldn't have known. I understand you have a separate non public list and he wasn't on the public list because he didn't send his shipping address. But Fact is, he requested the refund only days after the order was placed. The rules stated no refunds after order was sent to the manufacturer, but here again, there's no way he would've known that his order was included in that shipment. You didn't advise him of that until this thread. And the only thing we have is your word that his order was in fact included in that bunch. That's something we'd probably never know for sure. But.... Even if his order was included, it shouldn't have taken you several months to tell him that. Had you advised him early on, he probably would've tried to sell the pre-order as others did. But he was robbed of that option because he was led to believe he was getting a refund; why request the verification (which he sent), if it wouldn't be used to refund him? Even after you found his order, you neglected to tell him that he wasn't entitled to a refund. My point is, the buyer should've been told from the jump that he wasn't going to be refunded. As I stated before... Given the tone of the initial communication and the fact that my name wasn't on the public list (how would I know you maintain a private list), I'd also be under the impression that I'm getting a refund. The rule is no refund after order is placed - I get that. What I don't get is why the buyer is absorbing all of this loss on his own when he's technically not at fault? IF he were told this months ago, his loss wouldn't be so drastic. You yourself admitted that lack of communication on your part is partially to blame... That said, this entire incident could've been avoided if it were communicated to the buyer the status of his order - but it wasn't. Now OP is left to settle for a lousy .0something refund when he could've gotten something near the couple of BTC he originally made the purchase for. That isn't fair. I did not sent him a message in March saying his items where ready for shipping I think that may have been a miss understanding sorry if i gave that impression. The issues have stemmed from no postage details being provided when the order was made. The way this has effected things has meant that in future when conducting and form of sales it will require more information. Although the instructions in the group buy stated that people where required to send a pm with TX id and postage details. A few members of the community provided postage details and payment for postage at a later date and that worked out fine for others. The thread did have updates and posts that if curious miner had read and followed he would have had a better understanding of what happened. People also asked in the thread and via pm about selling orders and i said this could be facilitated it was done via the thread and people made offers in the thread so curios miner could have done that but he decided not to either by choice or by not staying up to date with what was happening. I see that the majority of the misunderstanding came about that i was offering a refund for the single chip devices (that has been given to him) and he misinterpreted it to be that i was offering a refund for the whole order. The request for verification was done for all members who received a refund for the single chip devices and that was the reason that i asked him for account confirmation and a signed message at the time. PM log: I have highlighted some important parts This is the interaction with bbxx ~snip-~ MOOT POINT - Communication should've occurred when buyer requested refundSorry guys - tried to clean thread up a bit - kinda long... Here's my response to you Beastlymac... " I did not sent him a message in March saying his items where ready for shipping." This is exactly my point. Had you advised curiousminer back in March that he wasn't going to get a refund,- i.e., his order was sent to manufacturer - he would've have an opportunity to sell his preorder. This could've been avoided had this taken place. Think about it for a sec. You wasted a lot of time in the beginning with the delayed responses to him. Why couldn't you just tell him? It seems you didn't act on it until he advised he was going to start this thread. " The thread did have updates and posts that if curious miner had read and followed he would have had a better understanding of what happened." His name wasn't listed on the public list & he requested a refund a couple of days later. There would be no reason for anyone NOT to think they were getting refund from you - that's based on the initial conversions you had with him. Again, this occurred because of lack of communication; it's all here in this thread. " I see that the majority of the misunderstanding came about that i was offering a refund for the single chip devices (that has been given to him) and he misinterpreted it to be that i was offering a refund for the whole order." NO. The majority of the misunderstanding came about because nothing was properly communicated to curiousminer. As a matter of fact - it took you a while to find his order didn't it? There wasn't anything in the posted thread where the type of unit was discussed - so you didn't even know what he ordered until you found the order on your private list. And even after - you still didn't tell him he wasn't getting a refund - you wanted his shipping address instead. I'm not taking sides - I never did. But if I had to say someone was wrong in this situation, Beastlymac it would be you. You because you led curiousminer on for months before telling him he wasn't getting a refund - this of course was after you finally located his order. Any person who has the ability to think rationally would agree with me. I'm sure there was no malicious intent - I don't think you're a scammer - but from what I skimmed about the GB, it could've been organized a lil better - you admitted you learned a few lessons this go round. I challenge you to answer a couple of simple and direct questions. Put yourself in curiousminer's shoe, just for a sec. Take a deep breath and reread my post, this time imagine you were the buyer. <PAUSE, continue when ready> Do you think what happened to you is fair? Do you deserve to bare the burden of the monetary loss solo? |
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