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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 21, 2018, 07:17:05 PM
Epic milestone indeed.
-16% xD

People that know how great this project is focus on long-term price and see the bigger picture, not being like you who's too shortsighted to see and understand anything.

Great that yiu are looking at the long term.

The past 9 months the team failed ro create a testnet that is stable for longer than 2 hours

Long term islooking good indeed.
You can forget mainnet in q1. Not gonna happen.

As far as I remember there were stable releases, just take the latest 2.0 release.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 21, 2018, 07:15:32 PM
Epic milestone indeed.
-16% xD


Yeah, it's such a great figure with these low volume and $0.10 price, right. Epic indeed. Only Huge dump could have caused that, right?

Seems something strange with this coin. Today almost a whole market in green zone and this coin fallen. People dissappointed in this coin?
As I see they had yesterday another version of Testnet 3.3. How many TPS they arhieved in this testnet? And when full mainnet version planned for launch?

Thats what you get if you earn yourself the scam label.
Impossible to shed off, which I kept warning for.
Team refused to listen.

lmao, they get that "label" due to Ivan's video in the first place, you weren't even part of the community at that time. Now with recent Ivan's video should improve the situation and  ease that md5 stuff and make people do proper research.



That was literally ages ago and people still believed that bs before Ivan's new video about CS.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 21, 2018, 07:14:27 PM
Epic milestone indeed.
-16% xD


Yeah, it's such a great figure with these low volume and $0.10 price, right. Epic indeed. Only Huge dump could have caused that, right?

Seems something strange with this coin. Today almost a whole market in green zone and this coin fallen. People dissappointed in this coin?
As I see they had yesterday another version of Testnet 3.3. How many TPS they arhieved in this testnet? And when full mainnet version planned for launch?

I think Dectonn was sarcastic there. This coin currently has quite low volume on exchanges (excluding LBank which is Bot haven full of fake volume) and even small sells can affect the price. CMC indicators are mostly due to LBank fake volume, on normal exchanges, the picture is better.

As far as I remember it was stable 150-200k TPS with over 1M peaks. Test was done on 32-36 nodes spread across the globe, but team said consensus was optimized for the speed test, so the real picture will come after speed test with community involvement (well not just community, anyone will be able to participate). It most likely will be done shortly after completion of decentralization test that is planned to start this week as well.  Mainnet was rescheduled to Q1 to conduct additional security audits and for platform optimization. You can always ask the team on telegram by the way, admins are there 24\7. I'd recommend you do that.

Yeah, I was, ty:)

I also think real picture will come after speed tests with community and others, but I remember Kostas saying number of nodes is not that relevant for high speed, but more for stable throughput.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 19, 2018, 06:38:43 PM
Epic milestone indeed.
-16% xD


Yeah, it's such a great figure with these low volume and $0.10 price, right. Epic indeed. Only Huge dump could have caused that, right?
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 19, 2018, 06:37:34 PM
If new version has all functions of Mainnet then it can handle mln tps, right?

They said that the scalability features are improved in comparison with the previous versions, so maybe we will see new peak number of transactions per second

More details related to technical components of Testnet 3.3, updates and improvements will be explained in the next Developer’s Journal

Did they say when it's going to be released or we're just waiting for now for decentralization test and aritlce about it?
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 19, 2018, 06:36:19 PM
Hello Friends,

some times it takes time to do all the programming etc. its a complex task and there may be delays. Credits team is very good. they always reply on every query in telegram. I am sure that it will be released this week.

Yeah, it's good you understand that, because many people can't get it to their head that this team is doing almost everything from a scratch, not just copy existing stuff and make it better.

2 more weeks to go, and these people are still expecting everything to be delivered on time.

I blame cs team, because they are still promisung mainnet in q4.
When eventually 31-12 clmes around and team launched “private mainnet v2.0” and token dumps another -50%, then you’ll come back here and bash the team again.

No way they will deliver mainnet on time. They cant even deliver testnet 3 since 30th of november, and signal server still hsnt been removed lol.

You again, huh, you seem to have a lot of time.

Only impatient fellows that don't understand what gem this project is (i.e. you, though you already sold, but whatever) will dump because of rescheduling to polish and optimize the platform.

Who cares if SS is still there, it doesn't do anything to the consensus and etc. Either way it'll be removed, there's already an alternative way to connect to the network through nodes IP. But you don't know that, because, guess what, you haven't tested the platform.


You know what does influence consensus?
The secret algoritm that team doesnt want to publish.
And the rules change that testnet 3.2 has implemented

Do you know what changed?
No you dont. You dont even knowhow the consensus algoritm works because its closed source.

Good luck investing in a black box.

Oh and signal server decides which node you connect to and atart downloading the chain.
Does give me an opprtunity to crash the chain by hacking the SS and deliberately letting people connect to malicious nodes, destroying trust in the chain.

Might be something EOS fanboys are interested in after mainnet is released, so don't expect prices to jump until the SS is completely removed and until the consensus code is fully opensourced.

But you fanboys don't understand those kinds of things.
You only understand fancy words like 1mtps, or smart contracts, instead of the real issues like consensus mechanisms, master node dependency, algorithm fairness in node selection, security of wallets, exponentially rising system requirements on node hardware as load on the network increases, centralisation of nodes on IBM servers, etc etc.

lol, people still waiting for CS to show their secret sauce to copy it, lmao. 

Signal server doesn't decide which node you're connecting to. It pings all network nodes that you've joined the network. And you're downloading the DB from random network node...

So basically, i cant join the network without the signal server?
Wel except if i now an online node’s ip.
But then that node has to first connect througj a signal server to the network.

Hmm seems like the signsl server is kinda necessary to get things started; ie single point of failure.

Not necessary, cs team can launch their own nodes among the first and people could connect through them without SS. I'm not even sure why we're discussing this whent it's going to be removed either way.
Seems like a waste of time
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 18, 2018, 09:35:24 PM
Hello Friends,

some times it takes time to do all the programming etc. its a complex task and there may be delays. Credits team is very good. they always reply on every query in telegram. I am sure that it will be released this week.

Yeah, it's good you understand that, because many people can't get it to their head that this team is doing almost everything from a scratch, not just copy existing stuff and make it better.

2 more weeks to go, and these people are still expecting everything to be delivered on time.

I blame cs team, because they are still promisung mainnet in q4.
When eventually 31-12 clmes around and team launched “private mainnet v2.0” and token dumps another -50%, then you’ll come back here and bash the team again.

No way they will deliver mainnet on time. They cant even deliver testnet 3 since 30th of november, and signal server still hsnt been removed lol.

You again, huh, you seem to have a lot of time.

Only impatient fellows that don't understand what gem this project is (i.e. you, though you already sold, but whatever) will dump because of rescheduling to polish and optimize the platform.

Who cares if SS is still there, it doesn't do anything to the consensus and etc. Either way it'll be removed, there's already an alternative way to connect to the network through nodes IP. But you don't know that, because, guess what, you haven't tested the platform.


You know what does influence consensus?
The secret algoritm that team doesnt want to publish.
And the rules change that testnet 3.2 has implemented

Do you know what changed?
No you dont. You dont even knowhow the consensus algoritm works because its closed source.

Good luck investing in a black box.

Oh and signal server decides which node you connect to and atart downloading the chain.
Does give me an opprtunity to crash the chain by hacking the SS and deliberately letting people connect to malicious nodes, destroying trust in the chain.

Might be something EOS fanboys are interested in after mainnet is released, so don't expect prices to jump until the SS is completely removed and until the consensus code is fully opensourced.

But you fanboys don't understand those kinds of things.
You only understand fancy words like 1mtps, or smart contracts, instead of the real issues like consensus mechanisms, master node dependency, algorithm fairness in node selection, security of wallets, exponentially rising system requirements on node hardware as load on the network increases, centralisation of nodes on IBM servers, etc etc.

and by the way, team said full code will be published after those audits.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 18, 2018, 09:34:11 PM
And another delay of mainnet.
Told ya.

Guessing it will dump hardz
Prepare for “another buyig opprtunity” “thanks for selling noobs” “you will never get it so cheap”” comments


Going down harddd..
Guess this was the final nail in Credits' coffin.
Already at rank #175 (without that fake Lbank shit).
Probably sub 200 rank tonight.


But dont worry about the team.
They can still retire with the few millions that they probably have left from the ICO.
I mean, they didnt waste all that money on pointless exchange listings on stuff for a reason right.

lmao, it's even better now that they released some pressure off them and will have time to conduct all planned test with no hurry and also optimize the platform, check for minor bugs and have more audits for security.

I'm totally fine with that.
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 18, 2018, 09:30:45 PM
Hello Friends,

some times it takes time to do all the programming etc. its a complex task and there may be delays. Credits team is very good. they always reply on every query in telegram. I am sure that it will be released this week.

Yeah, it's good you understand that, because many people can't get it to their head that this team is doing almost everything from a scratch, not just copy existing stuff and make it better.

2 more weeks to go, and these people are still expecting everything to be delivered on time.

I blame cs team, because they are still promisung mainnet in q4.
When eventually 31-12 clmes around and team launched “private mainnet v2.0” and token dumps another -50%, then you’ll come back here and bash the team again.

No way they will deliver mainnet on time. They cant even deliver testnet 3 since 30th of november, and signal server still hsnt been removed lol.

You again, huh, you seem to have a lot of time.

Only impatient fellows that don't understand what gem this project is (i.e. you, though you already sold, but whatever) will dump because of rescheduling to polish and optimize the platform.

Who cares if SS is still there, it doesn't do anything to the consensus and etc. Either way it'll be removed, there's already an alternative way to connect to the network through nodes IP. But you don't know that, because, guess what, you haven't tested the platform.


You know what does influence consensus?
The secret algoritm that team doesnt want to publish.
And the rules change that testnet 3.2 has implemented

Do you know what changed?
No you dont. You dont even knowhow the consensus algoritm works because its closed source.

Good luck investing in a black box.

Oh and signal server decides which node you connect to and atart downloading the chain.
Does give me an opprtunity to crash the chain by hacking the SS and deliberately letting people connect to malicious nodes, destroying trust in the chain.

Might be something EOS fanboys are interested in after mainnet is released, so don't expect prices to jump until the SS is completely removed and until the consensus code is fully opensourced.

But you fanboys don't understand those kinds of things.
You only understand fancy words like 1mtps, or smart contracts, instead of the real issues like consensus mechanisms, master node dependency, algorithm fairness in node selection, security of wallets, exponentially rising system requirements on node hardware as load on the network increases, centralisation of nodes on IBM servers, etc etc.

lol, people still waiting for CS to show their secret sauce to copy it, lmao. 

Signal server doesn't decide which node you're connecting to. It pings all network nodes that you've joined the network. And you're downloading the DB from random network node...
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 17, 2018, 11:39:54 PM
Hello Friends,

some times it takes time to do all the programming etc. its a complex task and there may be delays. Credits team is very good. they always reply on every query in telegram. I am sure that it will be released this week.

Yeah, it's good you understand that, because many people can't get it to their head that this team is doing almost everything from a scratch, not just copy existing stuff and make it better.

2 more weeks to go, and these people are still expecting everything to be delivered on time.

I blame cs team, because they are still promisung mainnet in q4.
When eventually 31-12 clmes around and team launched “private mainnet v2.0” and token dumps another -50%, then you’ll come back here and bash the team again.

No way they will deliver mainnet on time. They cant even deliver testnet 3 since 30th of november, and signal server still hsnt been removed lol.

and I believe someone has already explained you the stuff about signal server, but as per usual you don't read and understand anything. Good for you.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 17, 2018, 11:38:33 PM
Hello Friends,

some times it takes time to do all the programming etc. its a complex task and there may be delays. Credits team is very good. they always reply on every query in telegram. I am sure that it will be released this week.

Yeah, it's good you understand that, because many people can't get it to their head that this team is doing almost everything from a scratch, not just copy existing stuff and make it better.

2 more weeks to go, and these people are still expecting everything to be delivered on time.

I blame cs team, because they are still promisung mainnet in q4.
When eventually 31-12 clmes around and team launched “private mainnet v2.0” and token dumps another -50%, then you’ll come back here and bash the team again.

No way they will deliver mainnet on time. They cant even deliver testnet 3 since 30th of november, and signal server still hsnt been removed lol.

Poor burok, if only someone would care about what you think or do...

Once again, blame anything and anyone you want, but  not yourself, that's okay.

32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 17, 2018, 01:13:19 PM
Hello Friends,

some times it takes time to do all the programming etc. its a complex task and there may be delays. Credits team is very good. they always reply on every query in telegram. I am sure that it will be released this week.

Yeah, it's good you understand that, because many people can't get it to their head that this team is doing almost everything from a scratch, not just copy existing stuff and make it better.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 17, 2018, 01:11:51 PM
I've seen the news about Igor going to Paris on Jan 31 to the conference, that's really great team is still attending the conferences to present the project and spread awareness about it. Well done!
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 14, 2018, 05:47:00 PM
While I'm at it, can someone from the team clarify if there'll be description of the improvements made to consensus in the Dev's journal along with 3.2 release or something similar?

I think they will describe all improvements made since the last release, consensus included. Looking forward to read it Wink
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 14, 2018, 05:40:12 PM
Another day, another smoke screen to distract from failure to deliver mainnet.

Credits rents a few servers and calls it a partnership.
Almost feels like they enjoy being called a scam?
How is renting a few servers a partnership? XD

Also, nice to see that they change consensus rules last minute (shich is closed source anyway), and now apparently rent 200 nodes fron ibm.
Apparently they are moving to a Ripple like centralised and permissioned blockchain.

Will be nice to get all the cs fees from the txs, as the consensus will probably only select ibm cs nodes as main and trusted nodes.

Anyway, 17 more days to go for testnet 3.2, test 2 and 3, mainner and swap.
Lol.

Another day, another burak...

It's clear from the start that you haven't read the 2nd article on CS blog... You're just hopeless...
Again, you sold, no? Why do you care? Or you're that desperate and afraid that this project will be great success and you'll miss it so you anxiously want people or project itself to convince you it's real?  That's just pathetic...

I’m sorry but where on the IBM website does it show the “partnership”

Don’t you remember how ibm announeced Stellar?

And i’m just trying to prevent people from getting tricked into this scam(?) project

https://www.ibm.com/case-studies/credits-ibm-cloud-blockchain-performance
Here is a link to the official IBM website.

Exactly my point. All that is, is a “use case” on the ibm website, meaning a client story about how great ibm cloud is.

Ie MARKETING for ibm cloud

its not a partnership. they just using ibm´s cloud infrastructure. its like saying i have a partnership with google because im using google chrome.

bla bla bla, can you read? Is it possible that any their customer just mentioned on their official website? They are going to implement IOT business models together and will present joint MVP in the near future? Or is their Vice President liar? Don't think so, all announcements are agreed by the parties of the deal, they would easily sue the project if they spread false information, relax and accept that, it's much easier to raise some doubts than have a closer look to priority points, everything that you are saying is nonsense

Dont spread speculation as facts.

The fact is that credits claims a partnership whole all they do is use ibms platform and pay for it.


Until ibm confirms ibm is nothing but a supplier of credits

Time will show who is right, looking forward MVP which will be the most important proof of this partnership, no one is interested in your opinion, I do not understand your goal, if you are not interested in the project, why are you here and demostrating assumptions as the facts

Well said, bud, that burak fellow was even banned in their TG for constant inappropriate beahivour, lmao why would people even listen to him
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 14, 2018, 05:37:23 PM
Will the CS token be involved in this business model focused on IOT industry?

According to the team info the use of token is possible only in certain use cases

Is that really possible? if so, it should bring some value to CS and will be very beneficial to CS holders for sure!
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 14, 2018, 05:36:24 PM
Another day, another smoke screen to distract from failure to deliver mainnet.

Credits rents a few servers and calls it a partnership.
Almost feels like they enjoy being called a scam?
How is renting a few servers a partnership? XD

Also, nice to see that they change consensus rules last minute (shich is closed source anyway), and now apparently rent 200 nodes fron ibm.
Apparently they are moving to a Ripple like centralised and permissioned blockchain.

Will be nice to get all the cs fees from the txs, as the consensus will probably only select ibm cs nodes as main and trusted nodes.

Anyway, 17 more days to go for testnet 3.2, test 2 and 3, mainner and swap.
Lol.

Another day, another burak...

It's clear from the start that you haven't read the 2nd article on CS blog... You're just hopeless...
Again, you sold, no? Why do you care? Or you're that desperate and afraid that this project will be great success and you'll miss it so you anxiously want people or project itself to convince you it's real?  That's just pathetic...

I’m sorry but where on the IBM website does it show the “partnership”

Don’t you remember how ibm announeced Stellar?

Al the second article is, is credits talking about themselves.
And how they build something om top of ibm analytics.
Which anybody can do that pays ibm, ehich credits does.
Since when dies partnership mean that you pay your partner a monthly fee for 6 years?

And i’m just trying to prevent people from getting tricked into this scam(?) project

You're not trying to prevent people from getting into the project, you want people and the team, as Uelairex said. I feel really sorry for you...

Do you see many announcements regarding colloboration with blockchain start ups from IBM side when there's no PoC developed or nothing to show yet? Did you see that IBM create special page to make an announcement? Did you ever see that IBM Vice President meet with blockchain start ups just to sell them their cloud service and then tweet about it? I doubt it. Just patiently wait for the moment when IBM+CS will finish with MVP development and will show it to the world, hopefully that will shut you up for eons.

I'm done, peace to you...
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 13, 2018, 05:18:03 PM
Great news, guys! We've been waiting for this for so long and now it's here! IBM Cloud is officially partnered with Credits!

They aim to bring blockchain to the mainstream with high-speed, low-cost transactions with the help of IBM Cloud and also developed a use case along with IBM for IoT that will be validated on Credits blockchain!
They shared main points of the use case aimed to create new IoT models, which integrate blockchain technology with the IBM Watson IoT™ Platform and IBM Cloud infrastructure.

The aim of this use case is to offer a tamper-proof of the IoT indications in the public view along with the speed needed to process a great number of indications into a public blockchain at a very low cost, thanks to overall great performance that Credits platform offers.

More info:
https://www.ibm.com/case-studies/credits-ibm-cloud-blockchain-performance
https://credits.com/en/Home/New_Ins/4198
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 12, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
Can someone explain to me how private chains can be beneficial to CS and its investors? Like will they generate value to CS coin or something?

Anyone can help me with understanding of this?)
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CREDITS - New Blockchain for financial industry [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: December 12, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
So 19 days to:
- launch testnet 3.2 (few days)
- announce test phase 2 (few days in advance to allow everyone to set up their nodes)
- run test 2 ( few days (they said max 20, which is already not possible)
- announce test phase 3 (few days)
- run test 3 (1 days)

I’m already 19+ days, but lets continue:
- launch mainnet (few days to prepare, ASSUMING nog large bugs or issues coming from test 2&3)
- do token swap (multiple weeks)

And then we also have christmas,, and we have new years eve (during which nobody will be working)
And we have 3 weekends (during which cs has proven to be not working)

So of the 19 days, i have effectively 13 left.
Deduct christmas and new hears eve, and I have 10 left.

10 days to run 2 tests, process all bugs found, launch mainnet, and do a swap.

Add to that credits’ consistent behaviour of ignoring deadlines, and the conclusion is:
- swap: not gonna happen before everything is stable is heavily tested, so aim for q2/3-19
- mainnet: likely q2/3-19
Test phase 3: likely q1-19
Test phase 2: likely q1-19
Testnet 3.0: likely end if q4

Prepare for a massive price drop when they, inevitably, communicate the delay on 31-12 (just like they did in july), as the moon sheeps following this project are too dumb to see this coming, and will sell in panic when their lambos dont arrive on 31-12.
Remember, if you discount it for the 6 months that have passed, almost 0 progress has been booked on the front-end (wallet has still bugs in v 2.2).
Back-end still shows errors and sync problems in v2.2. Add to that consensus protoal changes in v3.2 (really, right before mainnet launch you change consensus mechanism?)

Just compare it with Ziliqa, the amount of progress booked there is massive, as both projects started with testnet 1 before the summer holiday

Lmao, burak aka zilliqa shiller, are you that burak fudder from telegram? First of all, mark my word Zilliqa will reschedule their launch again due to encountered problems or whatever.  Second, there's no holidays in December in Russia, they start in January and are not very long. Third, you didn't test the platform, you don't know anything about dev progress available to public let alone internal dev progress, All you know is, that I'm 100% sure of, some information from not very clever people that don't understand how development works and etc. Fourth, front-end is irrelevant right now, because first and foremost they are making everything to make the platform stable, fast, reliable and secure, then back-end, bugs\erros are possible at any stages, EOS launched mainnet in June and what? They still fixing stuff even now.  Fifth, So what if they make changes in consensus? Do you know what changes they will do? If they decided to make them, then it means it'll be better for the platform. They know better than you, that's for sure. And finally, Sixth, I don't mind if they postpone the launch a bit, because that will give them more time to make platform better, double test everything, don't make devs overwork and make it a bit easier for them.

And as guy above said, if you don't like something, leave the project and move on and as far as I can guess you already did so, be so kind relieve us from your presense, no need to be a hypocrite...
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