Won't be the first time someone make a good looking website and whatnot just to scam. Never underestimate people when (possibly big) money is involved. I've seen it countless times before.
I don't need to contact the dev, he has all the info and concerns written right here, over 2 threads (he knows perfectly, anyway xD).
Only way I MAY remove the warning is if he changes the description, making it clear that it's not true there always will be enough btc to buy back std at GER (cause that's false xD) and that you can lose money there.
I said "MAY" because that won't cancel the fact he tried to mask the whole thing while holding all the money at his private exchange. Shady as hell even if he corrects the description. But I'll think about it.
He can use an escrow maybe: you send btc to the escrow address and he releases STD. Then I'll definetly remove all.
As for your rating, already answered: remove your one, which is an abuse, and I'll remove mine.
So you completely ignore the statement I asked you to make real evidence ... other then some writings on his website are not to your liking. I do agree he can make it into an escrow for his users safety and his legit. But this does not make it into a Ponzi, so you are still not entitled to destroy his work. You can warn people but not the way you did ! And no I won't remove my trust in you as you marked a forum user as untrusty without giving any evidence and/or proof that counts other then a small apples count. I don't even care about my own, because I won't normally use this forum ever again, besides just for some info I need. So thank you, you didn't only do it all wrong you shoo thrust full people away from here. The fraudulent statement IS the evidence. More than enough. Lying to investors to lure money in, expecially when you are going to hold all of that means a big red tag in my books. You disagree. Ok. Not going to torture you, I assure  A red *flag* maybe, but not enough reason to mark him as untrustworthy. In a court of law, you are not given a criminal record unless the case is PROVEN. |
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And yes, no trade history here. Makes sense: you are posting here, so your 200000 feedbacks on ebay or whatever don't count.
And the people who trade elsewhere and discuss here have no say? How pointless and stupid. The name of the site is bitcoinTALK, not bitcoinTRADE. Yes, if not everyone can open 200 fake accounts and destroy ratings just for fun. Not perfect as I said, but not without sense either. Surely the way is to prevent fake accounts? Duh! And it's utterly useless, it might as well not be here. Especially when people like you abuse the system. You should only have given the dev a negative if you had traded with him and lost money. End of story. |
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No serious man I got a few idea's for ya. - Get in touch with this Coinadmin (yes you, as you are attacking him) get an IRC channel (record it if you will, but say it first) tell him your concerns and let him explain this miss understanding.
- Gather real evidence, other then apples and oranges count ups, get real blockchain TXid's, get coin adresses, calculate on that other then apples. And provide us with real evidence
- Remove all those negative trust levels (I don't even care about mine) as for now you are just destroying the forums only real level of security. You really do miss use this system as you just marked him a criminal before given REAL evidence other then a calculation of apples.
Do you even consider that this guy made a very beautiful website, a whole trading system and that you just destroy'd this in a mouse click ? The time this costed could be used to launch a legit coin, with a 1-2% prémine, succeed and made him more then this so called Ponzi ? Or this admin is really dumb to try this Ponzi or he is legit, and untill then you should consider him as legit. Now I've read your calculations a long time before and it is indeed a bit fishy, no disagreement there but how you handle it is utterly wrong ! Work of those 3 little points above and come back, but untill then you should revoke those trust levels, for your own good. Agreed. Ghibly's actions amount to criminal damage. |
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And yes, no trade history here. Makes sense: you are posting here, so your 200000 feedbacks on ebay or whatever don't count.
And the people who trade elsewhere and discuss here have no say? How pointless and stupid. The name of the site is bitcoinTALK, not bitcoinTRADE. |
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You totally got me with the double account Tekkerr ahah xD, must admit. Well actually I should leave both your accounts tagged cause you are trying to abuse the trust system and then circumvent it, but I feel good and will remove it from the fake one with 3 "r" The trust system is totally worthless, as 99% of us don't get a vote. You get but your vote is "worth less". And for good reason it seems, you are just clueless trolls with no trade history. It's far from perfect, I agree, but in this case it's working extremely well My vote is worth nothing, it changes the score not one iota. No trade history? On here perhaps. As for trolls, it's YOU that's the troll, and that's almost unanimous. |
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You totally got me with the double account Tekkerr ahah xD, must admit. Well actually I should leave both your accounts tagged cause you are trying to abuse the trust system and then circumvent it, but I feel good and will remove it from the fake one with 3 "r" The trust system is totally worthless, as 99% of us don't get a vote. |
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Fraudolent
Er what? Have you got a smudge in your dictionary? Misspelling the same word several times causes me to doubt your intelligence level, so I cannot trust anything you write. Awww cute troll. No, a simple observation. Those who can spell tend to have higher intelligence, and have a clue about coins. |
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I have hard evidence and posted it over and over and over. Many can see it clearly (expecially other experienced users, weird). You cannot see it even after all the explanations? FINE TO ME just ignore my negative rating to the dev, you are free to do so. But if you insist I tag people without evidence allow me to disagree too, and to leave a negative back to you since you left to me in the first place.
Fair is fair.
Grow up man, get a life and have a good one ! You even left negative feedback on a guy that just came here never did anything to you other then just posted on this thread ... just by the evidence of his nickname .... ? That is the evidence you need  That's the exact same evidence you use to claim this is a Ponzi. To be clear, there is a chance this is truly a Ponzi, but untill proven: IT IS NOT ! Just by statements you post here it doesn't make it so, you'r just 1 guy bro that ruined maybe good intentions. Maybe the dev didn't made his calculations right, but that doesn't make him a criminal ! Untill now, the dev. came through for all what he promised. If you have good solid evidence you are free to post it here on the forums, but to tag someone untrustfull before events occurred, you are wrong and should swallow your big headed pride and remove it from the guy ! And I'll answer in your age terms, maybe you understand that: "You remove my trust tag first then I will remove my trust tag from you *child noise* ........ maybe *child gniffle* Well said. How many people must make a fool of this idiot before he leaves? |
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Remove yours and I'll remove mine (for your sake, not that I care about your negatives anyway).
Oh do grow up. |
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Fraudolent
Er what? Have you got a smudge in your dictionary? Misspelling the same word several times causes me to doubt your intelligence level, so I cannot trust anything you write. |
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wow... so I do the right thing and defend this coin from the asshole that is ghibly79 and he is accusing me of being a sockpuppet? Just because someone disagrees with your actions doesn't mean they are a sock puppet. It is petty bullshit like this that ruins the forum.
Same here brother, lol this guy is on a mission ! I wonder why not all in here tag him as untrustworthy, as he didn't show us evidence, he just guess it by the commercials this coin made. Because the trust system is worthless. Only people who have trust themselves can change the score of anyone else. It's not a democracy, it's a clique group of big headed egos. idd Ow my trust level is back at zero. This was hard to do. Now I'm ready again to start pupetting.  Good job of destroying that could be a good system on this forum ghibly79 ! I see your trust as -6 |
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wow... so I do the right thing and defend this coin from the asshole that is ghibly79 and he is accusing me of being a sockpuppet? Just because someone disagrees with your actions doesn't mean they are a sock puppet. It is petty bullshit like this that ruins the forum.
Same here brother, lol this guy is on a mission ! I wonder why not all in here tag him as untrustworthy, as he didn't show us evidence, he just guess it by the commercials this coin made. Because the trust system is worthless. Only people who have trust themselves can change the score of anyone else. It's not a democracy, it's a clique group of big headed egos. |
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exchange built in wallet ?
No, you need to go to the Standardcoin website to use the "built-in" exchange. |
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This entire thread is officially pointless and wasted my time, its nothing but trolling/arguments. That is all.
Perhaps ghibly did this on purpose because he has a vendetta against the dev? I'll just call that definite, since ghibly likes to change probability to fact. |
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wow... so I do the right thing and defend this coin from the asshole that is ghibly79 and he is accusing me of being a sockpuppet? Just because someone disagrees with your actions doesn't mean they are a sock puppet. It is petty bullshit like this that ruins the forum.
Nope, I left you my negative feedback since YOU are abusing the trust system leaving a negative to me (useless, nobody except yourself will be able to see that anyway, but still) cause you disagree. You are the one actually abusing the system. This thread is a constant font of amusement, seriously. I'm not tagging anyone who simply disagrees or I disagree with (otherwise hucker will be at -9999 by now xD). Rarely seen this much glass climbing in my whole life. A negative is because someone doesn't trust you. Why have you thrown your toys out of the pram? P.S. I've never heard anyone say glass climbing before. Are you sure you're from this planet? That's not a known expression, even to google. Look, it's quite clear nobody wants to listen to you, so even if you're sure you're right and we're all wrong, why are you bothering, you're simply getting nowhere. |
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It means you're assuming probable guilt when in actual fact we don't know. Go sleep with ghibly, nobody else is interested in your crazy theories. And in the style of ghibly.... I think you're his soque. |
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Judging by hashrate and the other thread, you are in minority my dear noob/sockpuppet/naive/whatever you are Why do you bother posting like a plague if only so few people are affected? If they are affected at all? Nope sorry, if you read his op, all the wording points to a secure investment, constantly rising in value, even if he doesn't directly state "you cannot lose money".
Hmm so you started making assumptions that are not or only loosely based on the Devs initial post - and you blame the author for that? Odd. It's a scheme made so he'll always profit no matter what and the risk (practically certainty, cause someone WILL lose everything at some point with a ponzi, only a matter of time. While with legit investments it's not certain at all) is masked.
First, the Dev does NOT profit no matter what. He can only "profit" if he is dishonest. Simply handing over BTC to the dev for some purpose (guaranteeing the minimum price) does NOT make this a scam. Only if the dev takes the money and runs away with it. Using that argument you should call every BTC exchange and even normal banks a "scam" - as they could in theory walk away with your money. Second, if you had read the definition of "Ponzi" carefully you would know that Standardcoin is NOT a prime example for a Ponzi. STD does not pay a return stream from new investor funds. Furthermore, it is pretty transparent what happens behind the scenes. If at all STD is similar to a pyramid scheme or to an economic bubble, as defined in Wikipedia: An economic bubble: A bubble is similar to a Ponzi scheme in that one participant gets paid by contributions from a subsequent participant (until inevitable collapse). A bubble involves ever-rising prices in an open market (for example stock, housing, or tulip bulbs) where prices rise because buyers bid more because prices are rising. Bubbles are often said to be based on the "greater fool" theory. As with the Ponzi scheme, the price exceeds the intrinsic value of the item, but unlike the Ponzi scheme, there is no single person misrepresenting the intrinsic value. Obviously, some people call BTC a Ponzi - if you are one of them feel free to call STD a Ponzi as well. At least someone who tries to post reasoned replies and not random troll gibberish. Unfortunately you are wrong. You are right on this one point though: "the dev is not profiting no matter what, he has to run with the money at some point" (except if no new investors come and mining stops, or is very low, and ipoers decide to dump. Then he'll pay back ipo investors a fraction of their investment and will keep most of it. Which is a very likely scenario, btw). My fault with that last statement, wasn't 100% accurate, I rushed it. Fair is fair. This is not changing the main problem anyway: he worded the thread to make you think you cannot lose money and that there will always be enough btc to buy back std at GER. The first part you can argue is only an assumption (sophism, cause it's very very clear) but the second part is plainly false, cause he'll be using new investors' money to pay either the miners or ipo investors dumping, or a mix. Or ipo money to pay the other two. Whoever dumps last will be losing money, mathematically. So he is deceiving new investors to pour money into the ponzi, so he can keep it running, trying to mask what it is and keeping the option to run with the money open if the sum gets large enough. Banks and btc are not ponzis (well maybe banks xD) cause, in the case of btc, NOBODY is guaranteeing he's going to buy back all your btc at initial investment cost. This IS a Ponzi cause only one person is (deceivingly) misinterpreting intrinsic value, leading investors to believe this value will be always at least enough to recover initial investment, while that's not the case. +1 .. clearest explantion of what this coin is (most likely) about Innocent until proven guilty. Do you live in the dark ages? Shall we drown the dev and see if he's a witch? |
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Hey I sent 10k STD to bittrex before i updated to the KGW-Patch. Can you please acces this blockchainfork and resend them? I mined forever to get this amount  Transaction details: Status: 0/unbestätigt Datum: 11.04.2014 10:07 An: bittrex sNMHhDPR6z1qHrKdMDQKfzvj6fS5e5UK1w Belastung: -10523.59673651 STD Nettobetrag: -10523.59673651 STD Transaktions-ID: 1d7a7d1190d3147ac7706a83a33552600f17deef84d3b4655f39f030a00035eb My STD adress:sdFoU6Kcv13UGHR7uz4Ye12LKY9jhomw9L If you sent them to the wrong fork, they're not really sent. If you delete your copy of the blockchain and re-download it with the new wallet version, you should still have your coins. Close your wallet program, delete everything in c:\users\{your computer username}\Appdata\Roaming\StandardCoin EXCEPT wallet.dat,m then reopen the wallet program and let it re-download the chain. Never delete wallet.dat, and keep a backup of it, that's your key to what money you have in the blockchain. Even if the file is out of date, you still have access to whatever coins you currently have, as that information is stored globally in the blockchain. Thats what i did.The transaction is still displayed,and even with a new blockchain with updated wallet i get 0 confirmations for it. I deleted the new dat,let the blockhain update and then inserted the original.dat aswell,which didnt work aswell. I had that problem with another coin a few months ago. I'd tried to send a transaction out from the wallet while it was out of sync (never do that!), my wallet.dat file had the transaction listed, but it had never been sent out to the rest of the world. I fixed it by replacing my wallet.dat with an earlier backup (and also deleting all other files). The earlier version of wallet.dat didn't have the faulty transaction in it. When it re-downloaded the blockchain, the coins were back in my wallet and I did a fresh transaction. If you don't have a backup (why not?), there is a way to manually edit the wallet.dat, but it's not easy. |
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wow... so I do the right thing and defend this coin from the asshole that is ghibly79 and he is accusing me of being a sockpuppet? Just because someone disagrees with your actions doesn't mean they are a sock puppet. It is petty bullshit like this that ruins the forum.
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LR85Am2DjRu8DxDMFRzCG6PGzzYoE7Zhvg  On it's way, except Bittrex took 0.1 as a fee |
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