Everybody acknowledged that, yes there will be something new, but when will it be, that's the critical thing since new sites are comming out like one per month. For me personally i play in both sites since it's the job of my bot to do the dicing game, but certainly the setting aka the budget to play on bitdice will be much lower since it doesn't have contest

Agreed, even that there is a whole brand new site (which even do not have a thread on this forum yet) aged 1 month old and his ranking is at 1,300,000, while this site is at 1,600,000. The owner of this site must decide to make it a module based development (i.e: bring the dice into new platform first including first in-place wagering contest) not to wait to finish everything in one go, it will take like 1 years ++ more from now and with that time, all the potential revenue will be lost to others. You can see that other site has like "75 contests monthly" you don't have to check how legit is it, but the number alone can do something in people mind. One i first saw their site, take a look at features, number of contest, and a crowded chat box...the question came out of my mind immediately "why i don't come over earlier"

Yeah, that's the major problem but I don't worry too much since that will just prove the fact that there is a way to win and really is. The casino might one day ban me for being winning too much with a common reason that people would believe such as exploit of bug, abuse of something, not complying to T&C or any kind of things related. However that would be also a draw back since the method is kept secret but then I might getting mad and publish it, include the open source code to Github for other experts to come and verify....once it is verified and users are jumping into it the end of the casino is set up.

Edit: Hence, it better for the casino to let it be, there is winner, and the winner is a case study to prove that their system is fair.

That's the major issue of why most of the players are losing, to success the player must have enough patient and perisistence. With some programming skill anyone can make a betting strategy that fit them in which they will not lose in a specific time frame, the thing is how each of the players define that time frame. I personally bind it to the bet count, in which current target is not losing after 500,000,000 bets and to translate it to actual time required 500,000,000 / 4 / 3600 / 24 = 1446 days (where 4 is the desired bet per second according to my network connection speed to the casino site), long enough to enjoy the game, and who know by that time, the earning during the process can help to last longer (aka ability to beat a bigger losing streak that is unlikely to occur). There is an important key measure is the "earning speed" in which if you can earn fast enough in a given time frame so that in the event of an extremely rare losing streak occur the earning + initial capital is large enough to help to beat that rare losing streak. I have a key stat which is the rate of earning per total wagered amount (currently at 8%+), as long as i keep it higher than the house edge, the final result should come out possitive since a common house edge is 1% the casino is expected to earn from me 1% of wagered amount, however since my rate is 8%, there is still a big gap of 7% so that the house edge can't eat my capital+ earning (unless the casino decided to raise it house edge to above 8% which is likely a NEVER happening thing).

Hope so but I don't think it will make any different beside "continuous wager contest with sizable prizes" and "higher bet back, loss back ratio" with only this two features you can already getting alot of activities.

Yes I reported including the search keyword (which is the job scamming phone number in this case) and the originate site (which has phone directory) that contains a look alike "google ads banner", that's where the actual scamming content comming from.

I think so too, althought there might be a chance that the whale like one of the games so much but to be honest whales are busy to compete for wagering contest on other sites.

Here is my story:

Got a text message from someone regarding to job interview at a company called SLD, found out that I never applied for that company after looking throrough those companies I applied for and try to match their full company name with S.L.D initial but none found. I then try a quick search on google to see if any smell of fishing and managed to find out a random site with directory of phone numbers and a database connection error message with a mining site https://mcxlive.ltd including login information.

I was thinking like god damn there might be another big hack in crypto world and managed to open Tor to try to login with hope that I can find something that might be interested (well greedy I am). Managed to log in and BOOM, an account balance of 4.9xxxxx BTC sitting there with mining stat of few THs. I was like god damn I am rich, and forward to change the email address immediately and it can be done easily (I am smart enough to think that a withdrawal request may notify to the owner's email address and he will find out)! A quick thought in mind  "it look suspicious" but greedy make me forward, I then try to withdraw that amount but it said 5BTC is the minimum (with a note that can't be changed because it can only be set when creating an account), oh shit, I then immediately look at the estimate earning rate stat and look like it take at least 20 days more to reach that 5BTC, I then have a quick look on the right side and saw a payment history of every 30 days (phew that true owner might not login for like 25 days more), quickly after that I proceed to change the account password (well I can wait for it to mine and I am just sitting here as a new legit account owner) and guess what, it can't be changed and keep saying incorrect old password! I thought may be the site won't allow anynomous browsing, greedy make me to proceed again, open chrome and navigate to the site with my bare home connection, BOOM a big RED warning from the AV plugin, it was like my good soul boy gave a good caution (during the whole session) and I then search for that site on google...someone told the same story, the same account balance....Phew, another sweet dream broken but luckily I was like ready to deposit the small change to make it up to 5BTC for withdrawal.

FYI a certain thing is what every strategy posted online will not work for your case. Simple thinking is that why would one would publish it for everyone to benefit from. As for my case I wrote a program my own, implement logics and calculations my own which is unique, and to tell that would it ever be published then the answer is no unless i can find a way to bind it to my benefit and also need to limit the spreading of it.

That's because you follow the major, what I can tell is it work, just don't be greedy and be persistence.

FYI: https://imgur.com/Zec47lS

It's currently passed 50 million bets mark and is this a non work case?, and if you are still around i will show you once it get to 100m mark and still in bigger profit.

I don't mean to complaint of the value but what is "true" must be clarified


For this, I already make a screenshot and do you want to see it? What a feeling that some thing are going to happen from your say and luckily i captured it with my post being the last. You are not answering directly straight to the point but drive the story to something else and will just telling other "bullshit, idiot, liar, blah blah" after starting to lose to defense it.

The example given just to let anyone else reading this to read and verify himself and my main point is "getting 10000 is not the same chance or 1/2 chance of getting other numbers" despite your marketing terms but technically people need to know what is the real chance behind it.

There is nothing to deny that I purposely tried to drive you to "admit that the system is really rounded of to the nearest integer" with your examples too (hope they are still there). So that I can prove that it's not and it's also not 1:20000 as per your saying to get the $200 prize number, but it's much more than that which is 1:4294967295, and also not 1:492496 as you argued with me.

Base on simple math you can't give out 30,000,000 / 492,496 = ~ 60 * 200 = 12000 USD a day understanding that this is free and your main income is not from Free Roll as well as can't effort to pay out this amount since it's only a gateway to other things.

Numbers of user accounts and total "free roll" count per day will definately huge and you simply can't and won't pay on the 1:492,496 but 1:4,294,967,295 is more realistic. I dare you to show a reasonable proof of "total free rolls played per day" and total number of rolls that hit 10000. Definately you will not because it will yield the true odd as I said.

So that what I say is correct, it get doubled, first the already house edge 5% and the next is 1 sat. Too aggressive in this case.

A simple term can be understand the same way by everyone but it can be another meaning by the one whom defined it. The reason I've asked so many time that is because on your site what currently going on an can be checked and verified is the payout of winning of Multiply BTC game which is not "rounded of to the nearest whole number" but to benefit the house it's rounded down. It's a strange thing that in any other site the rounding thing is done correctly and fair (up to the smallest unit is satoshi), but in your site despite the already high house edge, by using the math rounding, it's again "make used" to benefit the house on paying the winning payout by round down.

The same would be apply to the free roll thing where everyone can check is, the winning of $200 or 10000 will be much much more than what's currently is, if there really a 1:492496 chance for getting 10000. With that huge number of accounts (30 mil+) in average of 1 user doing 1 roll per day (average out the case a user can roll many more than that and those accounts are inactive), it 30+ million times rolled per day and surprising that a very small number of users are reporting their big win over time, if that's real then 30000000/492496 = 60 wins at least per day, this is certainly not happening but with the rate of users who reported the win...only few of them over a week, it's clearly that the later case is currently going on which is 1:4294967295 chance, and thus the report winning thread is representing this correctly which is just one or two users are reporting winning for a specific day as well as there were already days without any report. Anyone know how to think and do the statistcal math can see it clearly .

 

OK so I can confirm that your statement of:" to get a result 0 or 10000 there is 1/2 lesser chance of getting other numbers" is COMPLETELY WRONG.
According to the calculation statement of your "PROVABLY FAIR" there are 1:4,294,967,295 maximum possible outcomes of that HEX to Integer, BUT to be yielded a 10,000 rolled number there is only ONE chance (which is 4294967295 / 429496.7295 = 10000).
To get a 9999, it need to be at least 429496.7295*9999 = 4294537798. Since they are "rounded off to the nearest whole number" any numbers from 4294537798 -> 4294967294 (less the last Integer 4294967295) will become 9999. There are: 4294967294 - 4294537798 = 429496 chance of getting 9999 compare with ONE(1) chance of getting a 10000. Apply the sam calculation any number from 0-9999 will have the same chance of 1:429496 to occur while there is 1:4294967295 chance to get a 10000.

Don't ask me again to learn superb math if the above calculation is wrong, I only have enough math to finish my job as a seasonal Progammer, peach.



 

There is no information, that why I've asked and you didn't answer that key part, let I repeat, if the results are from 9999.51 - 9999.99 will it get rounded "to nearest integer" to become 10000, or it would be "rounded down" to become 9999 as similar to Multiply BTC results? If you will answer that it is truly "rounded to nearest integer" then explain why there is different in Multiply BTC game given the example: betting on 0.48% win chance or 197.92 odd, the payout would be only 196 in which equal to 197.92 less 0.92 part is stripped off (or rounded down) and less 1.00 stake.

Don't ask me to read because there is different found already, it's yours to clarify, just tell the truth.

The issue is we need to know what's inside the free thing, I bet you would happy to take small free white powder package at the airport checkpoint . Yes it's is provably fair, but how it should be rounded? "rounded off to the nearest whole number" i don't see it would be real taken into account how bet payout is calculated which is "round down" to the nearest whole number (as example of 197.97 above) so 9999.51 up to 9999.99 would definately yield 10000 but it will not because it is being rounded down in your system.

Yeah, the rounding myth is unknown for this site and i think it's for purpose, to verify do a small check: bet with 1 satoshi on automatic mode with odd of 200 and check what is the actual pay, 196 satoshi for your reference. The real math behind is the real accepted odd is 197.92 and the decimal parts is stripped off hence 197 less 1 for the stake thus your win is 196.

Derrive from how they do the rounding from above example, 9999.9 or 9999.999999, the right part of the decimal will always be stripped off and the chance of getting 10000 is very very slim, you are not getting rounded for 0.9 -> 0.999999 to become 1.0 for being a top 1 winner.

What i can think of is another big dump back to 3500 range before any trend reversal. But that would be the chance for casino which gambler would probably cash in from their FIAT and would proably have some spare for gamble.

Hope that they are smart enough to roll out phase by phase rather than waiting to complete everything and aim for a next big thing lauch. Estimated completion is like 1st Quarter of 2020, I don't think it can be done and base on the information on the reports the project was kicked off no more than 6 months...no way it can't be completed that fast with too many features. It may take another whole full year and probably it will not be finished thus customers are going on for other sites and stay there.

For sure you can't just write a whole new section of "fiat/crypto exchange" feature just for the convenient of customers rather than some kind of integration with 3rd Party and certainly it will add some overhead (credit/debit card fee, 3rd party exchange fee, own casino overhead fee). IMO the only mean and main purpose of KYC checks is not for customers benefit (buy Bitcoin with fiat) in any gambling website rather than a legit way for the casino owner themself to "legally" cashout their profit to $ (source of income, expenses, gross profit, tax, net profit) or to offset their bad estate investment. Going for KYC is just a mandatory step before cashing out without the risk of tax/fraud acusation/enforcement.

You may against it with some other reasons but I don't see any other reason than that.