Yep. There was a display bug that I fixed.  I posted about this several times.


New payouts sent a couple hours ago.

Just got home, I'm tired, and it's after midnight local time. Payouts tomorrow.

Were you able to connect before?  Did you give credentials? Someone was hammering on the server earlier without providing an address or 'password'....

Anyone else still having problems?  There's 10+ connected and has been since my last post.  This is lower than before today's flakyness started, but is enough that I a hard time believing there's still a server problem still...

Weird. We've been running for at least a week with solo pool totally disabled, with no stability problems.  Then all the sudden today, the server keeps hanging after multiple restarts.

Re-enabled solo and things look better.

Hm.  My miner (phoenix) always reconnects seamlessly each time I restart the server.  Is this not the case for some of the rest of you?

Exactly.  Just adding more pools for mining is next to trivial.  Doing the payout function is harder.  Also: Mineco.in now has some payout scheme that makes it not worthwhile to hop generally, and (I haven't really looked into it, but...) triplemining comes off like a pyramid scheme.


Are you guys still unable to connect?  I'm connected, and so are ~15 other people...

That's probably what I'll end up doing.  Can anyone/everyone else who's having this problem please let me know?  If it's just a couple users, it's going to be far easier for me to just do this manually.

There's an issue with some users's btcmine accounts for that time period, because I can't access old btcmine stats.


I hadn't, but so many people were saying it I was willing to just go with it ;-)  Let's tentatively say that payouts happen weekly, on Mondays, unless something unexpected comes up to delay it.

Hmmm. Anyone know of a way to see stats on *all* prior btcmine blocks? The stats page only shows 25, which is messing things up...

I'm not even sure what you're trying to imply, but here's my response:

One of my miners runs at 253 MHash = 0.16280872 ฿/day by that calculator (ideal, perfect world, no disconnects, no invalid shares, no reboots, no pool fees, no issue with bitcoinpool having all invalid blocks for several days, etc. Realistically, at least 5% lower)

The last payment was 7/11 at 22:30.  Multipool's stats are updated through approx 7/16 01:00 for most pools right now = 4 days 2 hours of confirmed mining time.
(4*24+2)/24 *  0.16924384 = 0.664802273 earned BTC in a perfect world

If I made another payout right now, that address would receive 0.78248132 BTC from multipool.

Absolute efficiency in terms of earned BTC for that time period: 1.177

Better than a kick in the head? You bet.

I fixed btcmine; your pending there should only be from the last day.  If this is not the case, please let me know your address and I'll look.

bitcoinslc is still on my to do list. Things are hectic at my real job this month, but I'll try to get it done some time.

All the pools are still in the stats. There was a display bug or something for 'total number of shares'; it didn't match the number of shares actually in the database.  Now, it's being calculated differently and it does match.

You must've just been mining on deepbit at unlucky times.  Long-term, deepbit efficiency is ~1.2

Deepbit 0's issue resolved.

Yeah, I had thought the deepbit 0's thing was just some weird flaky artifact of rewards processing that would go away soon.  Turns out it's an actual problem. 

I worked out a retroactive fix, but I need to take deepbit out of the rotation and wait until tomorrow to roll it out.  I'll need to take the pool down for about 15 minutes while I process the fix tomorrow.  For the weird 0'd shares, I *think* the fix will be 100%, but it might cause share count to fluctuate slightly.

Future deepbit blocks should be able to process without an issue.

I'm also thinking I might remove BTCMine (and after all that trouble of getting it working... :-/).

They use a score-based system, and Multiclone must be using the wrong magic number to determine whether mining there is profitable or not -- the several spotchecks I've done have shown BTCmine actual efficiency<1, despite Multiclone predicting its utility to be around 1.1 - 1.2.  Though, thinking about it, that could just be because all the BTCmine transactions (with a lower difficulty) were processed after the most recent difficult increase.  I'm not certain how that factors in to Multiclone's efficiency calculation.  I guess a few more days' testing (with a new worker account) might be in order.

I should try to get eligius working again too, now that it's back up and stable... I haven't checked, but I'm hoping the web interface didn't change much!


Utility is what Multiclone expects the efficiency to be.  Efficiency is the actual efficiency, compared to not hopping (after block is found, confirmed, paid out).

Hum.  Just looked at the code; that's a little strange.  The total (with pending) is just some number stored in the database.  All the other info on your user stats page is generated based on the detailed round/share/etc history for each pool in your account history.  I have a fix in place on my test server that generates all the data directly from the database, so the numbers will add up correctly.  It also adds a 'pending' row for each pool.

This means your total (with pending) will display a lower number, but it appears that the lower number is the right number.  I'll probably roll that out to the production server tonight.

edit: Feel free to mine on Multiclone! Anyone and everyone is always welcome

Thanks for bringing the bitcoins-lc issue to more light, guys.  Thanks to you all, he unfroze the account and I managed to get the payout we earned.  It still might take me a bit to process the bitcoins-lc shares, but the pool has the coins and I have the relevant data saved.

Fixed an issue preventing deepbit conversion, and sent out another round of payments tonight.  The deepbit rewards code seems to do something weird where it'tal display 0 reward for newish rounds for a while in the stats, but they seem to eventually convert to proper rewards.

Unfortunately, I didn't save the log.  He did copy/paste the relevant part into the main #bitcoins.lc channel thread though, if someone happened to be idling there.  There's no #bitcoins-lc log saved on the web anywhere.

After discussing that I had been frozen, how he doesn't normally ban hoppers but is making an exception for us, etc, it basically went like this (from memory):

Made a fix.  BTCMine shares have started converting.  I'll make a payout tomorrow.

Also, bitcoins-lc recently froze Multiclone's account, along with several days' earnings.  I talked with the pool admin, and he refused to send the final payout.  His policy is that they don't normally ban pool hoppers since they DO contribute work, but he didn't like that there was a pool devoted to hopping, or something to that effect.

I removed the pool from the rotation.  I'm not going to go through the effort of doing anything to circumvent this.  If anyone else wants to, I'm willing to integrate whatever you come up with into Multiclone.

If you want me to look into something like that, you're going to have to tell me your worker address.  And I'm not going to explain the BTCmine issue again.

These are the sorts of things you should mention, rather than just getting upset and stewing over.


I'm definitely starting to.  I get very little out of offering this except that I was trying to help other people out (and a very small fee).  I do this in what little free time I have.  If you guys want this service to stay up, you're going to need to start being a little more understanding about certain things.


edit: this came off a little harsh. it's been a long day. sorry.