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[nick5429]

Heres the code for minecoin. Is it in your pools.conf?

Code:

minecoin
mineco.in:3000
https://mineco.in/stats.json
$time=~s/^.*"duration":(\d+).*$/$1/;$shares=~s/^.*"shares_this_round":(\d+).*/$1/;$rate=~s/^.*"hashrate":(\d+).*/$1/;$rate = int($rate/10**9);
utility_1

I've never used minecoin, but wouldn't be opposed to adding it in.  However, I don't want to add yet another pool that won't convert its shares.  If you feel up to writing a rewards function too, I'll add it into the rotation. Otherwise, I might get around to adding the pool eventually


The auto-refresh sounds reasonable, whenever I get some time for some more tweaking.

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[geek-trader]

Just started in this pool today, about 6 hours ago.  Giving it a try.

How long until the "pending" tuns into actual stats?  Does it wait until 120 confirmations?

Thanks!

[geek-trader]

found my own answer: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=17970.msg286403#msg286403

[luffy]

btcmine and bitcoins-lc are over 2 days still pending!
i would like to see Mineco.in in the statistics
although i don't know what is the minimum hashrate that will worth it!

[Mike 71]

Nick, there is no need to do the reward 100% exact for the pending pools.

Anything that seems nearly fair would work. We all would win if you dont focus on getting complicated rewardsystem butmore new pools. Is there a way to do it something like 95% accurate but fast implemented?

[gentakin]

Otherwise, I might get around to adding the pool eventually

The minecoin operator has already announced to put a fair reward system in place asap. If his speed > your speed, you might actually have better things to do.

[organofcorti]

Otherwise, I might get around to adding the pool eventually

The minecoin operator has already announced to put a fair reward system in place asap. If his speed > your speed, you might actually have better things to do.

Fair reward systems aren't always detrimental to hoppers.

Over one week with multipool on eligius-eu (old scoring system) I got efficiency of 1.9 over 2000 shares, on bitcoinpool 1.3, and btcmine I got 0.735 over 25000 shares. It really depends on the math behind the implementation. eligius is always my backup now for example, because their anti-hopping algo doesn't actually punish hoppers it just doesn't reward them.

[tschaboo]

btcmine and bitcoins-lc are over 2 days still pending!

For me it's 8 days pending. That's why I didn't use this pool anymore for 7 days. I lost too many shares at the original multipool. I don't want to repeat that here.

[Mike 71]

btcmine and bitcoins-lc are over 2 days still pending!

For me it's 8 days pending. That's why I didn't use this pool anymore for 7 days. I lost too many shares at the original multipool. I don't want to repeat that here.

/sign

we need payouts more than anything else to continue. I pointed my miners back before 2 days but took em away again yesterday.

[gno]

At this point, I expect that Nick is sorry he offered his copy of Multicoin for others to use... 

[nick5429]

btcmine and bitcoins-lc are over 2 days still pending!

For me it's 8 days pending. That's why I didn't use this pool anymore for 7 days. I lost too many shares at the original multipool. I don't want to repeat that here.

If you want me to look into something like that, you're going to have to tell me your worker address.  And I'm not going to explain the BTCmine issue again.

we need payouts more than anything else to continue. I pointed my miners back before 2 days but took em away again yesterday.

These are the sorts of things you should mention, rather than just getting upset and stewing over.

At this point, I expect that Nick is sorry he offered his copy of Multicoin for others to use...  

I'm definitely starting to.  I get very little out of offering this except that I was trying to help other people out (and a very small fee).  I do this in what little free time I have.  If you guys want this service to stay up, you're going to need to start being a little more understanding about certain things.


edit: this came off a little harsh. it's been a long day. sorry.

[nick5429]

Also, bitcoins-lc recently froze Multiclone's account, along with several days' earnings.  I talked with the pool admin, and he refused to send the final payout.  His policy is that they don't normally ban pool hoppers since they DO contribute work, but he didn't like that there was a pool devoted to hopping, or something to that effect.

I removed the pool from the rotation.  I'm not going to go through the effort of doing anything to circumvent this.  If anyone else wants to, I'm willing to integrate whatever you come up with into Multiclone.

[Grinder]

nick5429, do you really don't understand that people start to worry when more than a week go by and it's still not fixed? Unless a pool has been up for months, I'm not going to trust it with more than a couple of days of unpaid mining, which is why I too have stopped using your pool. While I appreciate your intentions, it seems to me that you are just too naive to run this kind of pool. Of course the pools are going to ban you, so you should have been collecting the rewards at least daily. It's not a coincidence that Multipool was running it behind Tor.

[luffy]

as long as total efficiency is well above 1.0 then i guess the pool hoping is successful.
it is also good to know that the pools that cannot work with multiclone are out, but this should be done
quicker

[tschaboo]

If you want me to look into something like that, you're going to have to tell me your worker address.  And I'm not going to explain the BTCmine issue again.

Sorry, I thought that's a known issue? I thought everybody is still waiting for the payouts. I thought this was all just a stats-page-not-yet-parsed thing.

http://multiclone.us.to:18080/user/?address=18jkF8XQHRPoNYfJKFNWnfT4Xz2sAEwkb7
http://multiclone.us.to:18080/user/?address=1GxYHKL445GiyXa2XHpQHzDqr4ixeemSSB
http://multiclone.us.to:18080/user/?address=1B5dUoXDzF1EamzxLejWW2Z7uty5VepYff

Also, bitcoins-lc recently froze Multiclone's account, along with several days' earnings.

Well, that's new. Are my really old shares also affected?

Of course the pools are going to ban you

Well I didn't think that the pools are so childish to ban multipool/multiclone. They should fix their scoring instead of hunting down those few hoppers that they can identify. That's really stupid.

so you should have been collecting the rewards at least daily.

That's true, of course.

Nick, I know that you are doing this as a favor. It's just that original Multipool went down, promised to pay out, but didn't yet. So I have about 25000 shares pending there. And now it's similar here. Two thirds of my shares are not payed yet. In this case it doesn't help much to have a efficiency of 1.2ish. That's still a huge loss.

It's probably that I'm angry about myself being a bit naive. If you read the multipool thread, you can see that I always had faith of multipool coming back. But it seems that I was wrong and he is off with my coins. I just don't want that to happen again.

[hollajandro]

I was using multiclone while my primary pool was having issues, but now I think I'm going to leave. There are no daily payouts, rewards are gone from the pool operator not grabbing their payouts daily, and it is obvious that they are not on top of things either, e.g. bitcoinpool has been having non-stop invalid blocks for the past couple days yet we are still submitting shares to them. There is just too much left to do to make this pool a viable alternative to others and almost no assurance that any of it will get done.

[nick5429]

Made a fix.  BTCMine shares have started converting.  I'll make a payout tomorrow.

[organofcorti]

Made a fix.  BTCMine shares have started converting.  I'll make a payout tomorrow.

Good job, that man!

Will they show up on the stats page as well?

[geek-trader]

Made a fix.  BTCMine shares have started converting.  I'll make a payout tomorrow.

We DO appreciate your efforts, nick.

[Mike 71]

we need payouts more than anything else to continue. I pointed my miners back before 2 days but took em away again yesterday.

These are the sorts of things you should mention, rather than just getting upset and stewing over.

At this point, I expect that Nick is sorry he offered his copy of Multicoin for others to use...  

I'm definitely starting to.  I get very little out of offering this except that I was trying to help other people out (and a very small fee).  I do this in what little free time I have.  If you guys want this service to stay up, you're going to need to start being a little more understanding about certain things.

It was well known that 2 pools didnt pay out, you wrote something is wrong with the stats parsing. I still just recieved 12.000 of 22.000 Shares. I also made suggestions how to deal with that parsing (no need to do it 100% exact)
http://multiclone.us.to:18080/user/?address=17L8TsmgcaJowgpuYBzMx9iXUfiQxCVv4T

Like tschaboo, i was on the original multipool and believed he pay out sometimes. But its 2 weeks now, i dont expect to get that btc anymore. So i am a  bit more cautios now.

So no offend,  i hope you unterstand our worries and why we cant mine for stat pages only. I really appreaciate your work and also said thank you in my posts. Once again, thank you for keeping this pool running.

Greetings
Mike