Hello all  In an effort to correct a few glaring inaccuracies that seem to have been overlooked by both the original (and non-existent) poster as well as forum moderators - I have decided to create this unofficial (but honest) pool thread where BAN mugs miners can air their frustrations/concerns about WTF is going on over at ButHurt Net. In keeping with the original & official thread - you will receive sod all support here also. Payment System: Some strange kind of * BSPS + 10% Bonus ( NOT REALLY - but it fools the noobs)  Payment Intervals: Definitely not every 1,2,4,8,12 or 24 hours - more like 170+ hours (1 week) if you're lucky, if the wallet hasn't been robbed (again), providing s0br hasn't fluttered your coins away on rentals & can be bothered at all. Small miners can expect to wait a lot longer. Merged Mining: Currently NMC (With the same weird PPS type thing, again, if you're lucky) - but don't expect to see any of it. S0br has been inactively developing what we consider is technically the most inaccurate/mist shrouded/shady/loss making pool in existence. We're as transparent as a concrete wall. We're completely inaccurate. We make false claims constantly with many broken promises. How can we prove that? - we cant, so we just ignore all your questions completely & pretend you're not there (after you've given us your hash of course). * Note: It's not important for us at all to pay you at exactly the interval you specify plus or minus a few days/weeks. This reason being is that this makes it easy for you to visually see that you're not getting paid what you're supposed to. So what's there for any miner to risk trying us out? Give us one hour of some of your hash rate and see for yourself how you won't get paid a thing for quite some time, if at all. You're feedback is unwelcome & we look forward to robbing you blind. If you have any questions, please don't bother contacting us here - it's a complete waste of time. If you're still mad stupid thinking of giving us a try, check out the link below: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782765.0n0ts0br. *BSPS - BullShitPayoutSystem. |
|
|
|
Miners who complain about the late/missing payments, lack of support, broken promises & lies are now being told to leave the pool: Very well fuck you and this pool then.
Well said. BAN miners who complain would go mine somewhere else.
Serious? If everyone who complained (weather it be for late payments, lack of communication, lack of support, lies & misleading statements or whatever) took your advice, there would only be you & s0br left!!.....  "How to lose friends & alienate people"........by swimmer63. Meanwhile, s0br continues ignore every question from miners about his lies: I just have not seen on other pools the hash rate fluctuate like it does here and have worried about it for sometime now.
Maybe this is the cause of the fluctuation: S0br promised to post an announcement here many weeks ago: I will publish a statement soon addressing some issues and concerns here. It's just a simple matter of providing more information.
....but still nothing.......why  And is still lying about the 10% bonus payouts that simply don't exist: According to the OP on the first page of this thread: Payment System: PPS + 10% Bonus.
Payment Intervals: 1,2,4,8,12,24 hours.
Two lies in two sentences? Moderators should do something. Moderators/admins should indeed do something.......  |
|
|
|
Very well fuck you and this pool then.
Well said. BAN miners who complain would go mine somewhere else.
Serious? If everyone who complained (weather it be for late payments, lack of communication, lack of support, lies & misleading statements or whatever) took your advice, there would only be you & s0br left!!..... "How to lose friends & alienate people"........by swimmer63. |
|
|
|
..I'd nearly give a 100% donation for a week to help go towards clearing the backlog.
What a crock of shit. Are you s0br in disguise? So, you went from mining at one of the most reliable, trustworthy & well maintained pools for over a year to mining at BAN because .......why? Let me guess, were you coaxed here by the: Lure of a 10% bonus on earnings as stated on the thread page? No. Because it's a fabrication of course. Maybe you prefer the constantly late payments? Or maybe you like the complete lack of support/info/posts here by the OP? Or was it that you didn't like the honesty of Eleuthria & much prefer a pool that is run by a proven scammer? I see you have a Bitcoin Marketing Team in your sig - is this yours? Remind me not to hire you for any advice on BTC  Yes, he's one of s0br's many aliases I think. You forgot to mention the "pretty" interface in your list of reasons for joining.......bitcoin marketing teams love pretty things |
|
|
|
+1 loshia! This pool lied to the community, so I got no problem with it being attacked. As you say, they're not really losing anything as they are still mining on their own interior network anyway. In fact, I think all the scam pools should be taken down, it would be doing the community a favour. How about it DD4BC? Do us all a real favour & attack the scam pools: BAN, Ghash & Eclipse would be nice, plus you got more chance of being paid anyway |
|
|
|
I was keeping quite about your worker name wondering if ....Really? would comment.
No need to keep quiet about it - I think it's a brilliant idea! I just added it to my sig actually. Who knows, it might even get Mr Transparency himself to post here.......but I doubt it |
|
|
|
Thank you - I'm honoured I think everyone who mines on BAN should do that actually - the truth will find you blocks @ s0br: Stop being a chicken sh*t & answer the questions like you keep saying you will, or stay the proven scammer you are. |
|
|
|
@ s0br: Stop being a chicken sh*t & answer the questions like you keep saying you will, or stay the proven scammer you are.
No payouts again eh? No surprises there then..... Let me guess, s0br the scammer/liar/thief has run out of BTC again & can't decide on weather to fake another wallet theft or wait until the next diff jump so he can take his percentage off all your earnings again....... Submit a ticket if you have payout problems.
Why? So s0br can ignore that as well? The ticket system is a cr*p system started by ghash (another scam outfit) so they could hide their corruption of miners, look what happened to them. Wake up. |
|
|
|
Then use the ignore button if my questions offend you @ s0br: Stop being a chicken sh*t & answer the questions like you keep saying you will, or stay the proven scammer you are. |
|
|
|
|
Are you s0br?
No? Then don't speak for him, there's plenty of spokesmen for him already.
Is s0br not man enough to post for himself? He's the one the questions are aimed at - nobody else.
|
|
|
|
Yeah, I got one of those emails. So has s0br paid every miner back for the last six months? Seriously? And what about his promise to post here? Hardly transparent is it? What about the stolen hardware claim with proof? What about him going into hiding after his scam was exposed? What about the fake accounts he owns? What about his fake pics he promised to "investigate"? What about the two wallet thefts at exactly the same time he ran out of BTC? What about all his lies? Etc, etc....... S0br doesn't post here because he knows he'll get exposed & ripped apart again, simple as that. Instead, he uses fake accounts/shills to post with, the guys got no balls to face the music & relies on other accounts to talk for him - it's pathetic. What's even more pathetic is that some people actually believe him, no matter how much evidence is placed in front of them. Seriously, how can anyone trust this scammer? His history is atrocious. Maybe if s0br actually plucked up the courage to answer peoples concerns/questions on here like he keeps promising to do, you wouldn't keep seeing the same questions being asked over & over again. Any honest pool operator would jump at the chance to prove his innocence, but s0br keeps hiding behind fake accounts & relying on a few shills to do his talking for him. It's the noobs I feel sorry for, they don't realise - but the rest of you should know better, but if you still don't, you deserve to be ripped off by him I'm afraid. @ s0br: Stop being a chicken sh*t & answer the questions like you keep saying you will, or stay the proven scammer you are. |
|
|
|
So, over two weeks have passed since Mr Transparency (s0br) posted this: I will publish a statement soon addressing some issues and concerns here. It's just a simple matter of providing more information.
To which I, correctly as it happens, replied with this: ...sounds a lot like this: Anyway... I'll get back to you about those pics...
...which was the last thing you said on your scam thread before going into hiding for 2 months....... So that means you'll be able to go back the last 6 months & pay all the miners what you owe them up until the "issue" was fixed then? That's good. I look forward to hearing from everyone on here when they get what you owe them Looking forward to your statement about everyone questions & concerns - this will be interesting  As usual, & despite logging in many times, s0br stays silent. One can therefore assume that: No miners will get their 6 months back-payments & s0br will keep it all. He is indeed using stolen/unpaid for hardware on BAN pool. Like his scam thread, s0br continues to avoid any questions whatsoever. Ask yourselves, If a lying, conning & cheating outfit like BlackArrow can provide documented proof - why can't Mr Transparency? Please continue to enjoy your late/short/missing payments & I hope you are happy supporting a confirmed scammer/thief/liar Wake up. |
|
|
|
Documentation has already been posted. If that documentation is false it will be very easy for s0br to prove otherwise. Please show me how 1 FedEx receipt shows or means anything? I would also like to hear how he could ever prove what that receipt means?
If what you think is true, s0br will have no problem proving otherwise will he? As I & others keep saying. Regarding fire000 ( ), s0br was not only well aware of what he was doing, but actively encouraged him. Many times s0br & fire000 took turns hurling abuse at me on the BAN scam thread - although they were never online at the same time.......hmmmmmm. fire000 also seemed to take it upon himself to speak for s0br on the original BAN thread, as can be seen here & in numerous pages afterwards: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=722202.60..again, with s0brs full knowledge & blessings. To suggest that it was not s0brs fault & that he was a victim of fire000's incessant trolling is nonsense. fire000 is not the only BAN troll used by s0br, there are quite a few, also listed in the scam thread. I kind of miss him though - he did say the most stupidest things....... |
|
|
|
I've earned 0.00071229 in 30 minutes. On slush I get approx. 0.008 per block. At this rate it will take approx. 5.5 hours to earn 0.008btc However. By entering the last 10 block durations at http://www.csgnetwork.com/timescalc.html it gives an average duration of 5 hours 24 minutes. 10 previous was average 5 hours 16 minutes. So, no real difference there. Might go looking at some other pools to compare. Unless some pool gets super lucky BAN pays the best because it is PPS with no fees and 1% bonus. Except when they don't pay or they reduce your payout PPS rate because they feel like paying you less than they should  Or when every 9 blocks out of 10 is an orphan. Or when they have "payout bugs"... That's strange, s0br advertises 10% in his sig........... |
|
|
|
Well, well - the constant posting paid off then. Welcome back to your own thread Mr Transparency. This: I will publish a statement soon addressing some issues and concerns here. It's just a simple matter of providing more information.
...sounds a lot like this: Anyway... I'll get back to you about those pics...
...which was the last thing you said on your scam thread before going into hiding for 2 months....... Also: This is why we log every share ever submitted to have the opportunity to go back and rectify an errors. We now tag the shares with the network diff they were submitted at so it doesn't happen again. It's been fixed.
So that means you'll be able to go back the last 6 months & pay all the miners what you owe them up until the "issue" was fixed then? That's good. I look forward to hearing from everyone on here when they get what you owe them Looking forward to your statement about everyone questions & concerns - this will be interesting PS: Is it coincidence that your self anointed spokesman "jammers" starts PM'ing me on the same day you decide to show your face here again? It's on your scam thread if you didn't read/write it already, which is eagerly awaiting your return.......but please use your "s0br" account this time https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782765.msg10485257#msg10485257PPS: Why are you advertising 10% bonus in your sig when you are only "supposedly" paying 1%? You really are a stickler for false advertising eh? |
|
|
|
So, s0br suddenly sprang up on his own pool thread for the first time in over 2 months, presumably because of the plethora of complaints about miners being underpaid & late. Strange thing is, on exactly the same day s0br shows up, I get this strange PM from some jammers guy who seems to have anointed himself as s0brs spokesman: I don't know what you're problem is, and what kind of paranoia you have, but I have had enough of your constant accusations. One more single accusation of me being anything and I am going to putting in a formal complaint, backed with me writing extensively about the issue of trolling on bitcointalk, directly which have happened as a result of your actions over the last few months.
Either you identify yourself to me, so i can speak to you directly and find out what your problem is, or I will do my best to find out who you are through the community options available to me. I don't know what the hell happened between you and s0br before, but I was not involved in it, so please desist from claiming that I am.
Hello, I'm not quite sure what you're talking about, & I don't I care, but anyway: Thank you for the lovely letter, I will be sure to file it. I believe a forum member has already pointed out to you the error of your ways, but in case you missed it, here it is again for you: Right, so you don't represent s0br & you don't work for s0br. Stop talking for him like you do then. You are not s0brs little spokesman. Take yourself & your spiv "bitcoin marketing team" ( ) back to s0brs little irc gang & stop pretending you know what you're talking about. Libel my arse I think he sums it up quite well. In fact, it deserves to be added to the scam thread, together with this & any other PM's you decide to send me. póg mo thóin Coincidence?.........maybe. Weird?.....definitely |
|
|
|
I agree with PatMan 100%. Jammers the spiv speaks for s0br again?....... I had a PM from a respected moderator yesterday asking me to stop bumping this thread, to which I replied I would, as it's obvious s0br won't come out of hiding. The fact that this moderator did not remove any of my original posts speaks volumes, as does another respected forum moderator who has commented on BANs "obvious scam" (his words, not mine - but I agree with him). To try & compare this abortion of a pool with slush's is pathetic & futile - there is no comparison. If any miners wish to open a scam accusation against s0br/BAN, but are concerned about receiving bad feedback/insults/spam/recrimination/threats like I have from s0br, ThePhwner, instahater, bbeesley, fire000 & the many other fake accounts used by s0br & his cronies - they are more than welcome to use my scam thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782765.280Of course, you won't get an answer directly from s0br, only via his fake accounts, but it will help to warn others. Forum Moderators: please lock this thread. I also suggest that unless BAN are prepared to actually communicate with their ripped-off miners, they should be banned from opening yet another useless thread in the future.Thank you. |
|
|
|
I would tend to agree with you.
S0br wouldn't: BTC Guild is a joke because PPLNS is a joke.
So you see - you, me, pool devs, miners & the whole Bitcoin community in general are wrong & s0br is right I'm no hater - I just think it's scandalous that people let s0br get away with stealing, lying & scamming miners. As should everyone. Speaking of scamming, here's another classic from their first thread:  Of course, if you're OK with losing over 7% of your earnings, zero support, lies, fake accounts, fake givaways, fake pictures, late payments, missing payments, etc, etc with no explanation whatsoever on a pool that is using stolen hardware - then by all means knock yourself out and mine here Miners need to know what they are letting themselves in for here, especially noobs who don't know any better. Damn those meddling kids....... Miners on BAN - s0br is scamming you & has been doing so long before I opened a scam accusation against him last year. YOU ARE LOSING YOUR HARD EARNED BTC!!!!When leaving this pool, please ensure that you leave negative feedback on the profiles of both s0br & ThePhwner to warn others & ensure that no other miners will be ripped off by this lying, thieving & scamming pool!!Always research any future pool you intend to use to ensure that you are trusting a reputable pool operator & admin. Good luck!! |
|
|
|
@ aurel57: So, you're s0br's attorney now?...... If s0br posted anything on his own pool thread it would be a freaking miracle - let alone if he answered a single question, explained a single incident or provided a single shred of proof to back any of his lies up. The reason he doesn't post is simple - he can't. Obvious when you think about it for a second or two eh? Everyone loves to talk for s0br - except s0br of course. How can you continue to defend a pool OP who refuses to post on his own pool thread? Don't be so blind..... No I don't represent s0br. I just don't like all the lies, if people just stuck to facts I would not have to defend things that I know are misconstrued. Exactly - that's s0brs job, nobody else's. If he can't be bothered to set the record straight, or simply can't, then logic dictates that it's because it's true. That was obvious when he disappeared from his scam thread after failing completely and is even more obvious now. |
|
|
|
@ aurel57: So, you're s0br's attorney now?...... If s0br posted anything on his own pool thread it would be a freaking miracle - let alone if he answered a single question, explained a single incident or provided a single shred of proof to back any of his lies up. The reason he doesn't post is simple - he can't. Obvious when you think about it for a second or two eh? Everyone loves to talk for s0br - except s0br of course. How can you continue to defend a pool OP who refuses to post on his own pool thread? Don't be so blind..... |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
