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21  Economy / Gambling / Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds on: February 13, 2019, 10:02:51 PM
I sure like Fairlay, but for two things.

1. The hold on one's largest settled wager in the past 24 hours. I could see not allowing it to be withdrawn in case there was a mistake, but you should allow us to play with it. In the rare instance where there was a mistake AND we played with it, you just break or delete that wager. I went ahead and started to pay the extra fee to get immediate access to it. Of course, if one's bankroll is big enough, this is not a factor.

2. Settlement of wagers is never immediate like almost every Sportsbook. With Fairlay, it often takes a couple of hours! This is very bad.
22  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: February 11, 2019, 12:59:20 PM
BitcoinRush should be a level ahead of Nitrogen and Betcoin.ag.

BitcoinRush has much better odds than Nitrogen or Betcoin.ag. BitcoinRush odds are identical to Pinnacle!

BitcoinRush also has a much better website and interface than Nitrogen. I can't believe Nitrogen hasn't upgraded their website. Very clunky.

I play at Fairlay because they have Pinnacle odds and a greater selection of matches and alternate odds than all of them.
23  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITCOIN SPORTS BETTING REVIEW - BEST BTC SPORTSBOOKS - 2018 (CUSTOMER FEEDBACK) on: January 27, 2019, 01:15:44 PM
Are there any new bitcoin sports books worth mentioning?

FJ got their new sports betting up.  No shill.  It's fair to say it's worth looking into imo...  With FJ being one of the longest running casinos in the space and all.

How are their odds? Looks pretty close to Pinnacle at first glance.

Do they keep your BTC in BTC or convert it to USD or Euros?
24  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 22, 2019, 11:19:24 PM
Upsidedown and barnstorm - thanks for the input on Onehash. It seems as though there is very little liquidity at Onehash. It says less than .01 in the bank in some major markets. Is this your experience or am I missing something?

Correct. They even still had entertainment and political markets up from 2017!

Maybe Soccer and NBA do better around game time.
25  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 22, 2019, 12:18:20 PM
I am understanding that it is a bit different than others but they are sportsbooks after all. Soccer is a big number one there and many people use the soccer betting there since the games are a lot. Nba games are maybe 10 games a day if we are lucky, nfl is just certain days of the week, whereas soccer has every day of the week with many games from European cups to local cups to leagues.

I love playing there no matter what. The feeling of making your own odds is much better than betting on other places. Sometimes you have worse odds than a regular nitrogensports like place but sometimes you have amazing odds and chasing those odds are what makes this game so entertaining. I usually know who to bet and when to bet and than just compare odds on other places on top of that and whenever I see a much much better odd I just go in on it.

From what I gather, OneHash is Parimutuel betting. So it is like horse racing betting. You don't know what the final odds will actually be until all bets are in, and you don't know how much you will win until you see how many bets and how much money is wagered. But you have an idea how much based on odds at all other regular sportbooks. So, you could wait until close to game time to see how the bets are coming in and whether there is value there. But it could change even at the end.

For instance, it looks like you can get the Patriots at really good odds right now, but that's just because the total amount bet is very small so far and a larger bet just came in on the Rams.

You can read more here to understand how Parimutuel betting works, but if you know horse racing, it is like that.
https://www.gamblingsites.com/sports-betting/types/pari-mutuel/

26  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 21, 2019, 06:08:59 PM
I see A rated sportsbooks, B rated ones, C and even D and than the unwanted F rated ones, however in none of them I can see onehash ?
I mean those dudes are doing sportsbooking a bit differently than others and allow you to be your own oddmaker with gamblers basically gambling against each other in a player versus player sportsbooks deal however that doesn't change the fact that they are in fact a sportsbook.

I don't know what the reason is for them to be kept away from the list but looking at what makes a website A rated or B rated I can already say they are above many of the sportsbooks in this list, maybe not A rated but certainly B rated to say the least. They have amazing offers a lot of games, no reason to scam you with odds considering you are the one making the odds and many other stuff, why wouldn't they be listed here ?

Can you change to American odds on OneHash?

By my converter, their odds on the SuperBowl are way off. They have it at Patriots (1.406) -246 and Rams (2.92) +192.

Most Books have it at Patriots -125 and Rams -115.
27  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 15, 2019, 07:44:50 PM
This is raven's post in Darkstar's thread. He makes a great point.
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Seriously asking for KYC on a gambling website is the stupidest thing anyone can do.

Are these people unaware of their customers so much that they would ask KYC to begin with ?
I mean most of us come from countries where gambling is illegal and that is why we gamble in crypto currency instead of fiat, online gambling is not something I prefer to do but I have to do considering its not allowed in my country, so instead of illegally gamble here, I am going to give all my info to crypto casinos and get caught gambling because I accepted the casinos KYC deal and gave them all my information? Not a chance.


I can see KYC on rare occasions but many books are using it as an excuse to delay and confiscate winnings. We don't want to be hassled with KYC and have no idea on how our information will be used.



Can we really feel safe that our Name, address, credit card numbers and phone numbers will not be abused. I mean how many staff people could gain access to this KYC info?!

I don't see why 2FA is not enough.

I'm asking in advance before I deposit to any sportsbook.

How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC?
28  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ BITCOINRUSH CASINO AND SPORTSBOOK EST. 2013 ★ on: January 03, 2019, 09:22:52 PM
So what is BitcoinRush's policy with regard to KYC?

Are they now requiring it? That would be bad news.

Are they only requiring it for certain withdrawals? What would that mean? Only for a certain size withdrawal? Or only when it involves more than the original deposit?

Thanks for any clarification on this.
29  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: November 12, 2018, 02:44:15 PM
Does BitCoinRush no longer accept U.S. players? I used to play there no problem, but now I see a restriction notice, although I can still sign in to my account.
30  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ BITCOINRUSH CASINO AND SPORTSBOOK EST. 2013 ★ on: November 12, 2018, 02:42:06 PM
Does BitCoinRush no longer accept U.S. players? I used to play there no problem, but now I see a restriction notice, although I can still sign in to my account.
31  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: November 12, 2018, 03:59:48 AM
New book betbit.com

If anyone has any issues at Betbit.com come and PM me. I can help sort it out.

How are their odds? Close to Pinnacle's?

I asked if they could add an option to display American odds. Nothing yet.
32  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: November 08, 2018, 04:00:57 AM
I reckon they did not require an email address to create an account at the time of the bitcoin cash fork. Nitrogensports only required a username and a password to make a permanent account.

They had my address as well as the addresses of most if not all of their clients. I got emails from them all the time.
33  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: November 08, 2018, 03:03:28 AM
@Barnstorm. Did Nitrogensports announce that they would not be honoring the bitcoin cash equivalent to their users' bitcoin deposits?

Also hehehe, why were you storing some bitcoins in a sportsbook during the time of the fork?

I wasn't aware of the Bitcoin Cash Fork date, and because I hadn't been to the Nitrogen site for quite some time, I didn't see their notice to remove funds to be sure to get the Bitcoin Cash. I told them for such an important thing, they should have emailed a notice to all of their clients. But did they really want all of their customers to remove ALL of their funds for the Fork?!

No of course not, but I reckon they informed everyone that they would not be honoring the bitcoin cash equivalent from bitcoins deposited in the site.

Also, Nitrogensports allows their customers to remove all of their coins anytime for any reason because bitcoin makes it possible.


They did NOT inform everyone by email. Only through a banner on their site. So if you didn't stop in, you didn't know that they were not going to honor the BCH fork. They did not want ALL of their customers removing all of their Bitcoin for a couple of days. Maybe they didn't have it all there and available for paying out. They should have sent an email to all of their customers. That would have been the right thing to do, but they didn't want to trigger massive withdrawals.
34  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: November 07, 2018, 12:44:41 PM
Is nitrogensports reliable when depositing and withdrawing large btc amounts?  Why do I keep seeing scam alerts on other sites when I do my research on google?  Do they and these other gambling sites just decide when to be fair and when not to?  I really want this to be a reliable place as I would play there everyday.  But as it looks now, there's some red flags popping up. 

Anyone care to give me a first hand account?

Except for my Bitcoin Cash experience I've never had any issues with Nitrogen. Withdrawals are not immediate, but they eventually get done. Maybe in 30-60 minutes rather than immediately like with Fairlay. They just have chosen to grab and keep the Bitcoin Cash money of many customers. It's gotta be hundreds of thousands of dollars if not more. They claim they warned everyone, but they only did it with a banner on their site. They did not email everyone.
35  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: November 07, 2018, 04:07:58 AM
@Barnstorm. Did Nitrogensports announce that they would not be honoring the bitcoin cash equivalent to their users' bitcoin deposits?

Also hehehe, why were you storing some bitcoins in a sportsbook during the time of the fork?

I wasn't aware of the Bitcoin Cash Fork date, and because I hadn't been to the Nitrogen site for quite some time, I didn't see their notice to remove funds to be sure to get the Bitcoin Cash. I told them for such an important thing, they should have emailed a notice to all of their clients. But did they really want all of their customers to remove ALL of their funds for the Fork?!
36  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: November 06, 2018, 11:36:48 PM
Peeps

Do you know the folks at Nitrogen?

One thing they have hanging over them is that they did not credit account holders with Bitcoin Cash when that Fork happened in August 2017. That means they are sitting on a lot of Bitcoin Cash that rightfully belongs to their account holders. A lot of folks are pretty upset with them about this, including me.



well to be honest I hate sites that didn't pay the BCH but there is nothing users can do about that
once a site doesn't make a statement regarding a fork this means that most likely they won't pay out users , not only nitrogen but there are plenty of other sites that didn't pay the fork

I really doubt that they will even consider paying BCH now , I guess they don't even have the data of users balances at that time

Actually, they say they did take a snapshot at the time of the Fork, so they might implement BCH some day. Not holding my breath though. Still, if they were truly holding all clients' Bitcoin, then they received and are sitting on a lot of BCH money and not paying it out.
37  Economy / Gambling / Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds on: November 06, 2018, 10:39:17 PM
When I flip a card over, the odds change - at least in the Political Cards. The front of the Card never seems to have the current odds. Sometimes it's *way* off.
38  Economy / Gambling / Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds on: November 06, 2018, 10:36:45 PM
When I wagered from a Card, it worked fine. So, maybe just the Search gets hung up.

I'll have to try a Market wager and see.

Thanks!
39  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: November 06, 2018, 10:03:26 PM
Peeps

Do you know the folks at Nitrogen?

One thing they have hanging over them is that they did not credit account holders with Bitcoin Cash when that Fork happened in August 2017. That means they are sitting on a lot of Bitcoin Cash that rightfully belongs to their account holders. A lot of folks are pretty upset with them about this, including me.



Nitrogen is great to deal with. Almost all the books have been very good in replying to questions concerning their background as well as any problems that may occur. If they aren't willing to communicate with us here they will be severely downgraded as accountability is important. This is a posters thread.

I thought about Nitrogen and the Bitcoin Cash situation. Since we don't know how much of Nitrogen's funds are held in bitcoin and how much is held in a fiat currency, it would be unfair to penalize Nitrogen. I do know that Fairlay paid customers.

Yes, I got my Bitcoin Cash from Fairlay, but not Nitrogen. People have theorized that maybe Nitrogen did not have all of their clients' funds in Bitcoin at the time of the BitcoinCash Fork and therefore they didn't get the Bitcoin Cash at the time of the fork. Not good.
40  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: November 06, 2018, 12:28:22 PM
Peeps

Do you know the folks at Nitrogen?

One thing they have hanging over them is that they did not credit account holders with Bitcoin Cash when that Fork happened in August 2017. That means they are sitting on a lot of Bitcoin Cash that rightfully belongs to their account holders. A lot of folks are pretty upset with them about this, including me.

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