QS has been under fire for escrowing for a secret alt, but no one has really been pointing TC out for doing the same thing for his alt. In fact, TC even added positive trust to his alt while QS didn't. I have had a strong impression that both escrowing for yourself and adding positive feedback for your alts are both extremely frowned upon; the latter especially because TC is on DT. So what's up? Why isn't TC being pointed out? I didn't read through every single page of the 31-paged thread, so forgive me if the answer is somewhere there. Yes, what about me? I'm not sure how many times I have to say it, but extraKrispy is a totally separate person. He did live with me at one point though, so I escrowed for him because it was convenient and the fastest option. Since he was literally about 15 feet away, there was little chance of me running off with his coins. All the deals that I escrowed for him were done with the same procedures that I'd do for any other deal (although I may have waived an escrow fee or two), so it was no different than if I he were 1500 miles away. We never conspired to pass on an extra escrow fee to the 3rd party or anything like that. Ask BadBear or Theymos about our IPs. They should be the same for the most part. I mean if he were my alt, wouldn't I have at least tried to hide it with a proxy? My situation is kind of hard to prove from either side of the argument, so I can understand the skepticism. However, I think a lot of people are making a bigger deal about it than it really is. I'm more interested in looking out for actual scammers. |
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Almost all deals involving PayPal and newly registered users will end in some sort of scam  |
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Ty Tomatocage, good to know. Thought live would be a full proof way of not getting scammed, guess not. Might just use an escrow here then. I know pp is frowned upon, and cc is just as reversable. Are there any easy ways to get bitcoins, lol. Will do more research into the whole world of bitcoins before i continue.
If you don't mind jumping through a few verification hoops, you can check into Circle.com. They have a $2500/week buy limit though, though this can be changed once you get a few trades under your belt. |
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I think "the same thing" was in reference to you escrowing for yourself. You did that, right? Why not use another escrow? Saving on fees? No, and I can't blame some people for believing that it's my alt, but he really is a completely separate person (it was a kind of a roommate situation). The only thing I'm guilty of is posting from his account to get his coins sold because he was too busy raiding in WoW. Paraphrasing how it went down: Me: Shouting down the hallway "Dude, I'm just going to post for you then." Him: "Yeah, fine." He funded escrow and the deal was completed. That's it. It was subject to all the same mechanics and procedures that I do for anybody else. I feel as if I asked a hot date to come over to watch Netflix and chill, when I really do just want to watch Netflix and chill  |
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And Tomatocage has done the same and he even left a good rating on his other alt account when the trade happened, he should get a negative trust rating aswell.
edit: i see he actually got a neg trust rating and wardrick decided to give him a positive trust rating, pretty suspicious.
Where did I do the same thing? And no, Wardrick is a totally separate person. In fact I think I may have him excluded in my Trust list. |
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This was the reason why Vod posted in the Offtopic thread regarding the "is secret alt escrow allowed?" ?  No, that's a different issue. |
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TC is a nice guy and A+ escrow
(5btc risked, months ago, buying graphic cards)
What happened? Nothing has changed. It's just that a situation came up where it appears that I was escrowing for myself (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12363857#msg12363857) using a different account. There's some back story to it, and if you listen to me tell it again, you'd probably go, "Riiiiiiight." dont forget to tell that you still think that escrowing for yourself is fine! i still hope you change your mind on that matter though... even if i dont think you ever did escrow for yourself IMHO its unacceptable for someone on default trust to say that. Yes, under very situational conditions, escrowing for oneself is ok (though this is really just a deal where the counterparty sends first), and I believe that QS would qualify for those conditions. Granted, the other 99.999% of the time setting up a fake "3rd" party escrow is clearly a scam. What happens is that funds are sent to escrow agent, who also happens to be controlled by the buyer. Once the goods are sent by the seller, the buyer and escrow disappear, never to be heard from again. However, this doesn't appear to be the case with QS. That being said, I wouldn't expect anybody to understand the reasoning behind my opinion on the matter. I certainly hope nobody would find themselves in a position where they would understand either. |
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TC is a nice guy and A+ escrow
(5btc risked, months ago, buying graphic cards)
What happened? Nothing has changed. It's just that a situation came up where it appears that I was escrowing for myself (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12363857#msg12363857) using a different account. There's some back story to it, and if you listen to me tell it again, you'd probably go, "Riiiiiiight." |
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LOL oh brother  I love how this dude thought he was being clever, posting things I've already publicly stated years ago |
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lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
In other words the seller pays for it? Hey man... I'm all for making moves and bending shit, but god damn that seems shitty. Esp when you spend as much time busting peoples nuts as you used to until QS came along. That was supposed to be a joke  And I'm not bending shit, merely escrowing for a friend (and I believe you have some experience in that area as well). I'll PM you with more details. |
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lol no I just do it for the cost of the Tx.
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Or how about this one: I actually created this account as an alt of my main so I could talk shit to other people without tarnishing the rep of my primary account. |
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Well, Krispy really is an actual person, though I admit I probably (accidentally) posted from his account as much as he actually did. Dude is a co-worker who was having some bad luck, so I rented out my guest room to him. Those coins that I escrowed for mysel.. oops I mean Krispy really were his coins though. Very convenient explanation, right? I wish it made for a more exciting story, but that's pretty much all there was to it. I'm not sure what to tell you then. That it's my alt and I was escrowing for myself? Is that what you were expecting to hear? |
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Not the response I was expecting.. Even if your story is believable ( ), you are still controlling all parts of the trade in terms of extraKrispy's side and escrow side. The middleman is supposed to be a third party. You may have been doing it on his behalf, but you are still in control of the coins and trade. Not that I really care, but just out of curiosity, what were you expecting? |
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I'm pretty sure that that explanation meant that TC did escrow for himself. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.
You must have misread what I wrote and/or I wasn't clear enough |
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did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.
I don't sell coins, so no. Though if you wanted to make anything from it, I have released escrow using one of my exchange accounts since I don't always have access to my escrow box, and then simply pocketed the funds held in the actual escrow address. |
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Well, Krispy really is an actual person, though I admit I probably (accidentally) posted from his account as much as he actually did. Dude is a co-worker who was having some bad luck, so I rented out my guest room to him. Those coins that I escrowed for mysel.. oops I mean Krispy really were his coins though. Very convenient explanation, right? I wish it made for a more exciting story, but that's pretty much all there was to it. |
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