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21  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Artificial Neural Network & Genetic Algorithm Library For Deja Vu on: February 04, 2014, 01:50:06 AM
bitfreak: I'm nearly done my foundations, I've written an RNN from scratch (nearly got it to work, just going to test for bugs tomorrow). Strongly contemplating making this an open source project but I'm on the fence being that I'm literally sleeping on my dads couch until he throws me out. Looks really good though, can't wait to see how it looks finished.
22  Economy / Economics / Re: Technological unemployment is (almost) here on: January 20, 2014, 12:55:13 AM
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I understand your aversion to communism, and I agree that robots will be creating a scaricity free society; However that isn't the major problem we face, our biggest challenge will actually be of the mind,  apathy.

When there are no jobs, and no need for money, there is not much need to work or do anything as robots will do everything we want them to do. I can easily forsee a two-race future of humans, one that has embraced cybernetics/genetic enhancement to keep pace with the skill level of robots themselves, and a race of degenerated humans who after years of apathy and brainlessness have turned back into apes.

Personally I'd like us to not have this happen, which is why (until we get into space and can afford to use humans) some sort of make-work effort is valuable not financially, but mentally. People need something to do and they need someone to tell them that they need it.
23  Economy / Economics / Re: Technological unemployment is (almost) here on: January 19, 2014, 05:22:10 PM
Most people will not be happy living on food stamps and haven't fulfilled their demands (housing, clothes, healthcare, education, transport etc). This model won't sustain even for single decade and finally end up in a bloody civil war!

by payment in food stamps/ post scaricty money, I was talking about "fundamental human rights money" aka food, water, shelter, transportation, education, internet, literally everything we take for granted today. Since these in our society will most likely be provided to us at no cost due to perfect economics (M2M transactions) and robotic manufacturing, none of these will be of significant cost to create.

What this does is something that another form of work would do, it creates compassion and empathy in people helping those that couldn't help themselves, it might be a little idealist to assume it would actually work this way but its better than class warfare / running in hamster wheels for money.
24  Economy / Economics / Re: Technological unemployment is (almost) here on: January 19, 2014, 04:54:18 PM
here's an idea, for the jobs that are required to be done for food (assuming that everyone here has enough empathy to not go with option 1), a reasonable solution would be to create a government/charitable organization that doles out food in response to furthering development in areas of the planet that haven't (and probably won't) be touched by gods (robotics) hand.

People get paid via food stamps / whatever form of payment we use in a post scarcity society. Eventually the people who were uplifted would be given the option to do charitable work back to the original charities homelands, essentially building infrastructure that wouldn't necessarily need to be created to increase economic output (IE no reason for robots to do it)

technically all that could be done with robotics, but since there is no economic reason to increase the lives of somalis (for example), this might be one of the best uses for "fake work"

25  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Artificial Neural Network & Genetic Algorithm Library For Deja Vu on: January 18, 2014, 06:39:16 PM
hey guys, I've not got the time to make a blog post since I've sort of put a deadline for myself to master ANNs in the next 2 weeks, but I found a text that's absolutely wonderful if you have knowledge of C/C++.

"Practical Neural Network Recipes in C++" by Tim Masters, extremely well written and useful text.
26  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Aljazeera: The Stream - Banking on the Bitcoin boom on: January 16, 2014, 02:22:14 AM
bumping with the resulting video from this cast, enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqH972FUsIs
27  Economy / Economics / Re: Technological unemployment is (almost) here on: January 15, 2014, 10:19:33 PM
I think unconditional income is likely. The gov't is the only thing currently that is able to provide people with money (because it's THE ISSUER).
The problem is the gov't itself. Any gov't eventually becomes corrupt so unless this problem is solved we won't see effective monetary and fiscal policy.

But that can't be so unless the people themselves are corrupt, since a governing body is comprised of the people.

which we are, as a whole.
28  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Artificial Neural Network & Genetic Algorithm Library For Deja Vu on: January 15, 2014, 08:12:26 PM
From what I've been reading, we're following a similar approach just that you aren't nesting your nets. The approach I'm taking to determining the best time periods, neural configurations, and what inputs to use are what I'll be determining with a "high net", this guy uses a genetic algorithim to change the inputs used and what neural configuration will work best for the current problem.

This "neural network maker" will first make a "trend spotting" noise filter, I'll most likely be working around the 10 min interval with 6 contextual neurons (short term memory of 60 min), however I'll be doing some small scale tests to determine the perfect point for that, and I'll most likely be reinforcement training this guy.

The second project for the neural network maker is to create specialist trading nets that are designed to work within the specific trends that the trend spotter picks up, this will probably be pretty time consuming as I'll have nested GAs running simutaniously, but it should only really have to be done once if enough different trends are created by the trend spotter. Also this part I plan to have each GA running parallel with an openCL hook for some GPGPU computing with my 7950, which I figure will speed up the training time considerably.

I'll probably draw a nice flowchart tonight after I finish mastering contextual neural nets and start work on genetic and simulated annealing algorithims, this shit is super cool.
29  Economy / Economics / Re: Technological unemployment is (almost) here on: January 15, 2014, 07:17:54 PM
I like Bitcoin very much, but think realistically - if the FED banksters will stop printing USD and make BTC legal tender, millions of fictional and unproductive jobs (NSA & FBI staff, soldiers, police, prison guards, office clerks etc) will fade away and real unemployment will hit >50% just after few months, not years or decades as probably will happen in case with robots.

Why do we want fictional and unproductive jobs? We all have to pay for them. Wouldn't we rather spend that same money to pay for real productive jobs?

What real productive jobs? in 10 years those won't exist unless something drastic changes. No human on the planet is better than a machine doing the same task, not with ANNs.

Instead of taking 20% of my income and giving it to people who are doing wasteful fictional work, wouldn't it have been much more efficient to just take my 20% and give it to those people directly? I mean, if it's unproductive work, anyway...

"If I'm alone too long I think too much, and I'm not interested in doing that. That won't lead anywhere good, I'm sure. If I'm busy I tend to stay out of trouble. An idle mind is the devil's playground." - Lisa Marie Presley


There is a reason why people desire work, even outside of economic reasons. Many people have a desire to produce, to be productive, to not waste their body and mind doing nothing but pleasure, we may not like doing work but psychologically we need it to remain sane.
30  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Artificial Neural Network & Genetic Algorithm Library For Deja Vu on: January 15, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
I've watched almost all of his videos, I'm extremely grateful that you could show me this mans channel, what a brilliant teacher.
No problem, he is certainly a great teacher. He is able to explain things in a very clear and simple fashion and he doesn't overcomplicate anything beyond what is necessary. I've tried watching other lectures on ANN's and all of them are very hard to follow compared to this lecture series. He also has a lot of other great lecture series related too ANN's if you look through the videos in his channel.

I've just taken out 4 books on neural networks, genetic and simulated annealing algorithims and I'm going to try my hand at a comphrenisve bitcoin trading bot, I think I'm going to need 1 autoassociative noise filter, a "regime" decision maker, and finally individual regime based trading agents. Thankfully theres an absolute mountain of training data in the bitcoin world so I shouldn't run into major snags due to insufficent training time but we'll see I guess.

Strongly considering making a blog to document my progress but I feel like that is a bit too self-serving, so I might just have a github thats open for people to gander at.

What language are you writing in? personally I'm a C++ guy so I generally make everything I want in C++ and then have stuff I need hooked in like openCL and .json data.
31  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Artificial Neural Network & Genetic Algorithm Library For Deja Vu on: January 14, 2014, 09:20:48 PM
absolutely facinating, I've been looking for an introductory series into this for quite some time, I'm watching every video and exploring for myself, I have quite a few projects that could take advantage of this technology.

EDIT: I've watched almost all of his videos, I'm extremely grateful that you could show me this mans channel, what a brilliant teacher.
32  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: VICE Discussion: Everything you need to know about bitcoin on: January 14, 2014, 07:29:32 PM
I'll bump this post just to give it some visibility for more people who are interested in understanding everything about bitcoin, if someone would like to add that video to a sticky I think it would benefit the community as a whole, great intro into bitcoin if you have the time.
33  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Qt Bitcoin Trader [Open Source secure trading client for Mac/Windows/Linux] on: January 14, 2014, 07:27:47 PM
IGHOR, what is the ETA on adding a trailing stop function for the rule-set? I'd happily donate a portion of my profits once I can actually make them after I go to sleep, having to manually adjust my stop is not conducive to overnight positions.
34  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you store your passwords? on: January 14, 2014, 04:39:42 PM
Even booting from a cd?

depends on the source of your CD .iso, it's definitely possible (although highly improbable) that you could download a dirty .iso from a backdoored or bitsquatted download page, you wouldn't even notice the ~2mb required for an attacker to have complete access to your computer.
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you store your passwords? on: January 14, 2014, 04:27:22 PM
My password(s) is a 256 bit hash of several answers to very personal questions. Basically a puzzle that you have to solve in certain order.

Yes, it's a big hassle to retrieve it. On the other hand, yes it's a big hassle to retrieve it.  Grin

lol, big paswords wont matter if you've got a keylogger though  Cheesy.

If you're incompetent enough to have a keylogger on your system and not understand why you should be regularly scrubbing your "run on start" programs (hijackthis! generally is my tool of choice) then you have bigger issues than keyloggers I reckon.

That's true. I prefer to use linux anyway.

Just because you're using linux doesn't mean your keylogger proof https://code.google.com/p/logkeys/
36  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you store your passwords? on: January 14, 2014, 04:18:44 PM
My password(s) is a 256 bit hash of several answers to very personal questions. Basically a puzzle that you have to solve in certain order.

Yes, it's a big hassle to retrieve it. On the other hand, yes it's a big hassle to retrieve it.  Grin

lol, big paswords wont matter if you've got a keylogger though  Cheesy.

If you're incompetent enough to have a keylogger on your system and not understand why you should be regularly scrubbing your "run on start" programs (hijackthis! generally is my tool of choice) then you have bigger issues than keyloggers I reckon.
37  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Aljazeera: The Stream - Banking on the Bitcoin boom on: January 14, 2014, 04:14:13 PM
http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201401140122-0023313

For anyone interested in being on the stream today, check out the twitter, google hangouts of @AJStream, probably useful for some of our more affluent and knowledgeable members to have a chat.

EDIT: I've now also linked the stream to this thread to get ideas and talking points, if people would like to make a comment to AJStream about Bitcoin I do believe it will be picked up here as well as on twitter and google hangout.
38  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you store your passwords? on: January 14, 2014, 03:35:09 PM
I store them in my head, and they are 20 character passphrases not passwords.

I forgot one for a BTC wallet late last year. It wasnt fun but I remembered it after trying combinations for a few days. You have to be very careful.

I recommend keeping passwords in your head, but not massive 20 character pass-phrases lol.

I use a 9 word passphase with a acronym in the center, just what wikipedia suggests I do.

As an added bonus, I can't spend my coins while intoxicated because my password is way too complex to type properly when on drugs so I have my own anti-drug security measure on my bitcoin wallet, woho.
39  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you ever consider insuring your bitcoin holdings? on: January 13, 2014, 12:19:55 AM
A UK company called Elliptic Vault is claiming to be the first company in the world to offer insured bitcoin storage.

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Bitcoin keys are encrypted and stored offline. There are multiple copies, protected by layers of cryptographic and physical security. The copies are accessible only via a quorum of Elliptic's directors.

The fee is 2% of your coverage level annually. Here's their faq page: https://www.elliptic.co/vault/faq

The part that I find really interesting about it is that their underwriting is done by Lloyd's. If that's not a sign that bitcoin is going mainstream, I don't know what is!

This completely defeats the monetary purpose of bitcoin. great a large, multi-word password for your wallet. Print off a paper wallet with Armoury, then place your paper wallet in hundreds of places scattered everywhere so you always have access to it in a pinch, nothing more needs to be done.
40  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: VICE Discussion: Everything you need to know about bitcoin on: January 09, 2014, 05:21:56 PM
this is probably the most in-depth bitcoin conversation I've ever seen, just about an hour in and there's things being discussed I haven't thought about in years.
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