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However, developers do kill coins by inaction, although it is a long process. Developers efforts should be directed to recruiting, or rewarding, new skilled coders who can stick with the project. Individuals are not a constant, but companies/large teams can be.
Core coders for a mature coin should stick to maintenance and technical improvements. Bitcoin is a good example. Real coin life comes from third parties' implementing services around a coin. MtGOX was a good example of a third party service that helped build the Bitcoin economy. The core Bitcoin developers did not create MtGOX. It is unreasonable to ask core developers to continue to develop services after they have built the infrastructure around a coin. Like Bitcoin and several other coins, VIA is a platform for distributed services. If you want to breathe life into VIA, figure out how to cultivate its ecosystem. Design a service for it. Harness its unique attributes to enrich yourself and add value to VIA in the process. One thing you can't say is that the infrastructure for services is not present in VIA. It's there by design. |
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What is it that we plan to accomplish?-Without giving too much away, as our next update will outline just that, I will drop a teaser image below. I'll let everyone speculate for a bit  -Also, we are also working on something we call Nocurnal Emissions, a dark send protocol. New wallet sneak peak: https://i.imgur.com/u5cNHYk.jpg You know Nocturnal Emissions sounds kinda cool...
...until you realize it's simply a technical term for involuntary ejaculation by males while asleep, otherwise known as a "wet dream"
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What spyware? There is none. The virus scan is 100% clean. It would be great if you would stop fudding my thread.
Dev, can you explain us what is your idea/plan about the coin ? Here is the dev working on the coin while having a good giggle: I hope that helps explain his plans. |
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What spyware? There is none. The virus scan is 100% clean. It would be great if you would stop fudding my thread.
There's something wrong here. It's probably a hidden virus in the wallet. No one is fudding. You haven't done developing, which means you either launched this thread for giggles or you are trying to spread malware. No one should download anything from this thread. They should all run several malware scanners and run from this coin. |
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Right now, Im not saying it is or it will become something nice because like you said, we dont have much information to judge so far. But in the other way, i believe its a little bit precoce to say that dev desappear or has the intention of scaming peoples. We should give him a little bit more to confirm its shit or not...The kind of attitude and post we can see from cryptocommunity is really not cool for real ambitious devs (i know there is scamers). But so far, nocturna dev didnt try to steal money from ico or premine stuff, so its a better start than empty promises and manipulations.
Right, but lately there is an annoying trend to launch these coins for no reason. One good thing to think about here is that the dev spent more money on the block explorer than just about anyone who mined. I certainly didn't put much into mining just for this reason and I mined far more than most. I'm sure the dev is giggling in a dark little room right now, but since he spent more money than anyone else here, he's the biggest loser so far, quite literally. It's kind of like showing up at a track meet, then pretending to be a turkey to make fun of the idea of track meets. You lose the race and look stupid doing it. There is really no way around it. Any idiot can be an idiot. These guys just haven't figured that out. |
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The one admonishing this dev as only crypto-toilet paper would be, is names Adressen, Gavin Andressen. Look him up...
Can you link that? I've looked through the commits for this coin. I've checked out a lot the development. All development here has been top notch. It looks to have had some ICOs, and maybe the funds were not carefully handled. That happens in all ventures. But the business dealings of the developers are of no concern to me. I look at coin itself and the actual code. I look at maintenance. I don't really care if someone lost some money on a coin. That's not what gives it value. Among alts, I have found only a few that are in this class. Some are better, yes, but VIA should be a top 30 market cap at least, going purely by features and development. A shitcoin doesn't work as a coin. A shitcoin isn't even the same as a coin that has nothing to offer. From everything I've found about this coin, it is in neither of the above categories. I know that investors are important, but I also know that it's the coin that makes the value. you know all the commits are just cloning from bitcoin's code? development has stopped after peter todd was paid some ico money to do some work. You have oversimplified development. It is good that btcdrak has kept VIA current with the newest fixes to the bitcoin core. That's not a minus. It's a plus. Integrating good ideas and inventions from others is a strength, not a weakness. It is a strategy seen all over industry. For example, the LCD screen in my iPhone was not invented by Apple. But the fact does not reduce the value of my phone, it adds to it. The pervasive shitcoin mentality is that all new commits must be original. This attitude harms the crypto landscape. I think it actually stifles progress. The reason I like VIA is that it attempts to pull the best ideas (in the mind of the VIA devs) from cryptocurrencies and integrate them sensibly into one product. There is no distraction with novel, partially working bells and whistles that serve little purpose other than ornamentation. The features I like about this coin are precisely those you probably dislike. Also, development never stops on working coins that have even a modicum of a community. Want proof? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=860075.0 (That's not an endorsement of flappy coin.) |
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You don't give money to the developers when you buy it on an exchange. I think you are confused about this issue. These ICOs are long over. Here's the twitter post you refer to: https://twitter.com/btcdrak/status/604047740322979840I'm not so sure an armchair commentator should attempt to interpret that dispute. What is your opinion on the technical issue they were arguing about? Why is Gavin correct, in your own words... I don't see any dispute... no one with eyes and very basic common sense would see one in that exchange. I see an undisputed authority in crypto, the most relevant and (arguably) knowledgeable individual in crypto, dismissing AND despising an "annoying troll" in the form of a self-declared "crypto entrepreneur" with a history of absolute failure in his ONLY enterprise in crypto. With that in mind, and considering the FACT that no one uses VIA for anything and very few people has even heard of VIA at all, even inside of crypto, after all this time, any "armchair commentator" can make a very educated commentary about the dispute AND the dubious merits of a coin that serves no purpose whatsoever. But you cited that twitter post as evidence of something, that btcdrak is mistaken for disagreeing with an authority? Many authority figures have been wrong. I could make a list. It is important to dispute authority often. The salient issue here is whether btcdrak is wrong in this technical dispute. So, in your own words, why is btcdrak wrong? |
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The one admonishing this dev as only crypto-toilet paper would be, is names Adressen, Gavin Andressen. Look him up...
Can you link that? I've looked through the commits for this coin. I've checked out a lot the development. All development here has been top notch. It looks to have had some ICOs, and maybe the funds were not carefully handled. That happens in all ventures. But the business dealings of the developers are of no concern to me. I look at coin itself and the actual code. I look at maintenance. I don't really care if someone lost some money on a coin. That's not what gives it value. Among alts, I have found only a few that are in this class. Some are better, yes, but VIA should be a top 30 market cap at least, going purely by features and development. A shitcoin doesn't work as a coin. A shitcoin isn't even the same as a coin that has nothing to offer. From everything I've found about this coin, it is in neither of the above categories. I know that investors are important, but I also know that it's the coin that makes the value. He posted it in his tweeter: https://twitter.com/btcdrak May 28th... What you have found about this coin is the answer to some of your personal preferences. Truth is that it doesn't have a single thing that is not wide available in dozens of other projects with much betyter development, trajectory and future. But hey, it's your money; you get to decide to which crypto-clown you give it. You don't give money to the developers when you buy it on an exchange. I think you are confused about this issue. These ICOs are long over. Here's the twitter post you refer to: https://twitter.com/btcdrak/status/604047740322979840I'm not so sure an armchair commentator should attempt to interpret that dispute. What is your opinion on the technical issue they were arguing about? Why is Gavin correct, in your own words... |
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The one admonishing this dev as only crypto-toilet paper would be, is names Adressen, Gavin Andressen. Look him up...
Can you link that? I've looked through the commits for this coin. I've checked out a lot the development. All development here has been top notch. It looks to have had some ICOs, and maybe the funds were not carefully handled. That happens in all ventures. But the business dealings of the developers are of no concern to me. I look at coin itself and the actual code. I look at maintenance. I don't really care if someone lost some money on a coin. That's not what gives it value. Among alts, I have found only a few that are in this class. Some are better, yes, but VIA should be a top 30 market cap at least, going purely by features and development. A shitcoin doesn't work as a coin. A shitcoin isn't even the same as a coin that has nothing to offer. From everything I've found about this coin, it is in neither of the above categories. I know that investors are important, but I also know that it's the coin that makes the value. |
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Looks like another "dev" who made a coin simply for kicks and giggles, maybe a personal experiment of some sort, or a college class project. Regardless, she took advantage of our lust for mining, and then disappears to never be seen again. You know what's worse than a scam dev? A disconnected dev.
Dafuq are you talking about ?!? Lollll Dev was online like 3 hours ago !! You asked people to be 24/24h online ? Real dev as also real life. Can you please wait some days before calling this a scam ?! Thats what will kill crypto world... fuckn jerks who just want to become rich in one night and dont care about the project itself. It wont happen with your attitude. "The project" lol.... Please tell me all about your care for this project--I'd love to hear the details of why you think Nocturna is a compelling "project." Until the dev gives us more information, a whitepaper or a roadmap, or at least a statement of vision, all Nocturna is is a couple lines of code. The project consisted of a 5 minute Photoshop job for the logo and butchering the PoW reward code. He got the windows wallet to compile, which means he's played this game before. I still don't understand the mindset of these guys. We need to have a community standard. No single person puts more money into mining than the dev has put into development. For example, if the dev has a website for the coin, then mine maybe $15 at most. I'm going to start doing that. He did spend some money on a block explorer with a rich list, so that more than justifies my mining costs using this standard. |
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That price on yobit is a bad joke. 1/10 of mining cost.
It's still about the same. You suck at trolling. |
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Looks like another "dev" who made a coin simply for kicks and giggles, maybe a personal experiment of some sort, or a college class project.
Yeah it was neat and fun. The bad news is that this dev got several people to waste $5 or $6 mining this coin. The good news is that the dev probably wasted more time on this project than most of the miners. I'm not sure what entertainment could come from it, but I guess it takes his mind off of not being able to get a date on the weekends. The launch was on Saturday night.  Here are some quotes for the dev: "It's better to have loved and lost than to have loved not at all." "It's my party and I can cry if I want to." "Always a bride's maid and never a bride." "Jocks get all the chicks, why don't they like brainy guys?" |
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Looks like there is an error in the code after all. However, this isn't bad (the coin still functions 100% fine!). I guess this just means that we have an even lower coin count than previously anticipated. I'm sure some of you are frustrated with rig rentals, as am I. But, due to what we are currently working on with the coin, forking or relaunching just is not in the deck of cards.
tldr;
Stake away! Well then mining is basically over. Sure hope what you are currently working on is a good surprise. Might as well announce it and get exchanges, as the week of mining is not a week anymore. Turning off my miners for good on this one. I got a few with the small rigs I have. Hopefully this dev sticks with it. It mined pretty well until that bug killed mining. Good thing PoS will carry the chain. |
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No, there would be much more hype if this coin was to increase rental prices.
This is more like a coin dev and friends mine and then release the news to
drive price up. I'm mining and holding for this reason, the coin is under
the radar.
Why put "wolong is back" in the ANN? That's to push up the rental prices without having to make a roadmap. Very clever. But it works only once. This time I guess. |
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What is up to you is to post your plans for the coin and get another pool to secure the network.
For a 1 week mining period, having more than one pool is not necessary. It's dangerous for all the mining power of bitcoin to be in the hands of any one person, but it doesn't matter for a coin like this with a total value of a couple of hundred dollars. It's more important right now for more people to mine it. The dev could help that by posting a killer roadmap, but being a rational person, he probably isn't so he can mine more and I don't blame him. |
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lmao , I missed this one , guess I'll stick with errorcoin .
GL to those mining .
If this is legit,  , you still have some good mining left. Block halving won't be for another 60 blocks. |
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DEV,
Any plans or roadmap to add?
I think we'll be lucky if he comes back a couple of times before disappearing for good. Don't jinx it. |
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Specs don't make sense, halving every 250 blocks starting with 25 coins/block will give a much lower total, something like 12,500 coins before the rewards drop to 0. Is there an unadvertised POS component as well?
Nothing obvious. int64_t GetProofOfStakeReward(int64_t nCoinAge, int64_t nFees)
{
int64_t nSubsidy = nCoinAge * (COIN_YEAR_REWARD) * 33 / (365 * 33 + 8);
if (fDebug && GetBoolArg("-printcreation"))
printf("GetProofOfStakeReward(): create=%s nCoinAge=%"PRId64"\n", FormatMoney(nSubsidy).c_str(), nCoinAge);
return nSubsidy + nFees;
}
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