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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 08:12:44 PM
As of the technical aspect I believe we do not need to implement masternodes and cpu mining algo. We need new retargeting algorithm though.
A different algo implementation is crucial for the survival of mooncoin. The current coin supply is so large, that large transactions (just millions) currently already take 8+ hours. And now we don't even have that many transactions. This will cripple our network in the future.


Mooncoin need to be embraced by the Asian markets/users. That is why we want to keep the current blue moon logo. We need to be united and with no hierarchy in order to do so.

Unicode ticker:
☽   &# 9789   &# 263D       FIRST QUARTER MOON

Thank you,


The blue ellipse is the old logo. The current logo is:

Jasperrr Jasperrr, this is the retargeting algo I am talking about and also have nothing to do with the coin supply.

It is not the current logo and it was competing with the macdonalds logo which makes the entire contest farce.
You can see the current logo in the OP post.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 07:40:24 PM
So...officially you guys are splitting up to 2 different groups or...?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2067635.0


woa...


Good afternoon from Greece. Well, Mooncoin is a cryptocurrency with 2 official sites and 2 communities in Bitcointalk. We also saw this.  Smiley

Yes, the desire of some ppl to be in control of project which they do not started and do not understand is so strong  Smiley

Do you have any ongoing projects related to Mooncoin that the community should know about? All I see is bickering from both sides but no one demonstrates proof that projects are on going and actual progress being made. Only thing visible is a redundant argument about a logo.

I personally work on 2 Mooncoin based projects at the moment. Not ready to be announced yet. What about you newbie?

"Newbie" - you do not know me Midmir. I do not oppose you so do not try to belittle me for such a reason as having a new account on this forum. That means nothing. I have seen from previous posts that you employ an aggressive manner when dealing with discrepancies, be mature. I will say that I do oppose the creation of a board, I think that is utterly meaningless to the advancement of this coin. However, when every person is very hush about what "projects" they are working on, it creates sheer doubt. Also, lack of dev posts is very unsettling. I have seen from the Discord this AM that he stated "I may/may not have a public version of mooncoin 0.13 trial ready". Why is it that he only makes one mystique post? Why not provide consistent updates? Those are the questions that I wonder about, not something as trivial as a logo.

Do not catch at single word. It was not an insult attempt. I am aware that most of the newbies here are not actually new users.
I am not against anyone here. The reason sometimes I am talking emotionally is when the founding principles of Bitcoin and its derivatives like Mooncoin are purposefully undermined.

The logo is really trivial but the way it was enforced, same as the board, new "official" website, community relocation and so on is not ok.

I am glad that you are against creation of board.

I can't talk instead of the main dev Barrysty1e but we are very grateful for his contributions so far.

Ok, glad we are we clear. Everyone wants progress, that is a fact. I think if we could merge the two separate sources of Mooncoin community, it would be beneficial. Perhaps a Slack for all to join? Just a thought. I do not oppose the creation of a second website as whoever has made the original has ceased to update and refresh information, as well as aesthetic appearance. In your mind, what do you think should be done ASAP to progress this coin? We have been stagnant for far too long.

Thank you for asking. As I stated before instead of new exchanges I think we should take the Dogecoin approach - real generosity and real economy behind in terms of more and more services which accept Mooncoin.

As of the technical aspect I believe we do not need to implement masternodes and cpu mining algo. We need new retargeting algorithm though.

I really like the idea of MoonWord.

Mooncoin need to be embraced by the Asian markets/users. That is why we want to keep the current blue moon logo. We need to be united and with no vertical hierarchy in order to do so.

Unicode ticker:
☽   &# 9789   &# 263D       FIRST QUARTER MOON

Thank you,

23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 07:23:28 PM
So...officially you guys are splitting up to 2 different groups or...?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2067635.0


woa...


Good afternoon from Greece. Well, Mooncoin is a cryptocurrency with 2 official sites and 2 communities in Bitcointalk. We also saw this.  Smiley

Yes, the desire of some ppl to be in control of project which they do not started and do not understand is so strong  Smiley

Do you have any ongoing projects related to Mooncoin that the community should know about? All I see is bickering from both sides but no one demonstrates proof that projects are on going and actual progress being made. Only thing visible is a redundant argument about a logo.

I personally work on 2 Mooncoin based projects at the moment. Not ready to be announced yet. What about you newbie?

"Newbie" - you do not know me Midmir. I do not oppose you so do not try to belittle me for such a reason as having a new account on this forum. That means nothing. I have seen from previous posts that you employ an aggressive manner when dealing with discrepancies, be mature. I will say that I do oppose the creation of a board, I think that is utterly meaningless to the advancement of this coin. However, when every person is very hush about what "projects" they are working on, it creates sheer doubt. Also, lack of dev posts is very unsettling. I have seen from the Discord this AM that he stated "I may/may not have a public version of mooncoin 0.13 trial ready". Why is it that he only makes one mystique post? Why not provide consistent updates? Those are the questions that I wonder about, not something as trivial as a logo.

Do not catch at single word. It was not an insult attempt. I am aware that most of the newbies here are not actually new users.
I am not against anyone here. The reason sometimes I am talking emotionally is when the founding principles of Bitcoin and its derivatives like Mooncoin are purposefully undermined.

The logo is really trivial but the way it was enforced, same as the board, new "official" website, community relocation and so on is not ok.

I am glad that you are against creation of board.

I can't talk instead of the main dev Barrysty1e but we are very grateful for his contributions so far.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 07:00:11 PM
I just created the account. I usually just read the posts, to know the news and see if anyone wrote some creative idea. But every time I enter there is a fight, for a superfluous thing, this discussion of 3 days is already tiring.
In my opinion reddit and bitcoin talk are the main means for the community to interact. I did not like the discord very much, yes, I already logged in the discord and I still prefer reddit and bitcoin talk, but there are people in the community that use discord, so it's fine for the two to exist in perfect harmony, without discursions and fights .
These topics were not made for fights. This only gets away from the new people, who want to get into the community and investors.
Mooncoin_Foundation has already stopped with these speeches, because what he had to say he already spoke and how he is adult and wants to see the best for the community, and knows that this will only attract more negative look at a currency so promising.
The only one I see, who wants to continue pulling fights and dividing the community is the Big-moon-discord, so please, if it is to continue with these childish attitudes, it does not even make any sense. But if it is to help and make the currency look and appreciated, you are welcome, otherwise withdraw from the community or create your own currency or go tidy up

I have to agree with you.
Even the vigorous arguments given by Andreas Antonopolus are not enough to stop going towards centralization and privatization of Mooncoin's future.  At this point I believe this is Big-moon-discord and his followers intention.

However, Mooncoin is here to stay.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 06:55:15 PM
What's going on?
I was mistaken to trust moon coine.
You are still dealing with logos what are the projects related to it
fuck you Child mu doing this

Ask those who divide and conquer.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 06:54:25 PM


Logo was good why did you remove

This is answered multiple times already. Read back.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 06:53:47 PM
So...officially you guys are splitting up to 2 different groups or...?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2067635.0


woa...


Good afternoon from Greece. Well, Mooncoin is a cryptocurrency with 2 official sites and 2 communities in Bitcointalk. We also saw this.  Smiley

Yes, the desire of some ppl to be in control of project which they do not started and do not understand is so strong  Smiley

Do you have any ongoing projects related to Mooncoin that the community should know about? All I see is bickering from both sides but no one demonstrates proof that projects are on going and actual progress being made. Only thing visible is a redundant argument about a logo.

I personally work on 2 Mooncoin based projects at the moment. Not ready to be announced yet. What about you newbie?
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 06:36:57 PM
So...officially you guys are splitting up to 2 different groups or...?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2067635.0


woa...


Good afternoon from Greece. Well, Mooncoin is a cryptocurrency with 2 official sites and 2 communities in Bitcointalk. We also saw this.  Smiley

Yes, the desire of some ppl to be in control of project which they do not started and do not understand is so strong  Smiley
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded adresses. on: August 05, 2017, 05:05:57 PM
Littlestan, please do not quote me and talk to me.

At least not before you revert the logo, stop with the stupid actions and educate yourself in the cryprtocurrencies subject.

Same goes for you, stop acting like a douche and hold a normal conversation. Regarding the logo issue, there has been a revote for the logo and the new design won again. So please quit that discussion and move forward.
Say what? I logged in for that "revote" and here were the choices given:

Guess which one I voted for.


How you call this one? I call it manipulation.

This is done by the same people which call decentralized system antique. And I call it future.
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 02:26:56 PM
Midmir please stop posting and let more clued-up people talk.

This shouldn't affect the accumulation of the sell wall.

Do you really think an investor wants to keep his money in moon when the so-called official source of information only shows weak arguments from an elitist group?  


I was not going to be against you if you were showing some clever moves in the right direction. IMHO you are usurping Mooncoin. I am more than happy to show you support if you do not try to divide, move and centralize the community.

Can you help without centralizing by any means? If yes be my guest. If not go away.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 02:16:10 PM
https://unsee.cc/notadumi/

stop lying to the people the price is 1 sat.

What you expect when Bitcoin is up by $500? Stop being manipulative please, it is not working.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 02:11:17 PM
As I said, the majority.  https://unsee.cc/mesitapo/

Who has been creating content over the past few months? The commmunity

Where has the dev been most active? The community

Who have been developing on the mooncoin platform? The community

Who have made an updated website? The community

Who has been building relationships with outside organisations? The community

Who has been going across the net acting as ambassadors for the coin? The community

We get it, you don't want to change what works for you, but it doesn't work for everyone else.

This forum has tried to stop us every step of the way.

I might say you are the reason the price went down then. But I don't think so. Same as you are wrong by assuming the community is on Discord.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 01:59:31 PM
Many coins go up today. Mooncoin goes down. why is it so.I think it should go up with the new design of the coin
I have rather the feeling that with the new design just goes down .
But no matter. The yellow moon was still the best design . Were memories of 2014 January   Grin
But the good times are over . Sad


Hi ostsee77,

When many coins went down Mooncoin rise. By the way the price is the same - 2 sat
Not sure about your feelings but all of your posts are negative and price concerned.
I do not know what your expectations were when you bought your MOON but you should be aware as warned everywhere that crypto is high risk market and many people eager to get rich quick cried at some point.
Have no worries.
The good times are ahead!
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 01:33:52 PM
People can see this small minorty of older supporters haven't listened to the community- look at the price and 2 sat sell wall on bleutrade. There have been three democratic votes held by the community and the results have been disregarded by this minority of no more than ten people.
 
You people are hiding behind a mask of being decentralised but the reality is that, you all hold a lot of mooncoin from buying at sub satoshi prices, and act as though you control the coin which makes this an elitist system.

Stop lying to the people.

The board is honest about it's intentions and the majority of it's members will go public with their identities.

The board isn't private and it won't dump on you at the first sign of success to buy again at low levels.

We have a solution for this malicious behavior.

Join the community https://discord.gg/ZqAXUFt

The community is here on Bitcointalk. Kindly stop to divide the Mooncoin community. We are not moving away from BTC Talk.
What amounts individuals have and how they obtained it is not matter of your concern. Look at your own pot.
By the way you are the liаr stating for democratic votes as they were not democratic and legit at all. Your manipulations did not worked. Chose another coin to abuse.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded addresses. on: August 05, 2017, 11:24:43 AM
Great to see the blue moon logo on CoinMarketCap.
I hope this issue is closed now until someone suggest really better logo and everyone is excited about.

We can focus on Mooncoin now in making it better and not try to further centralize it by giving power in the hands of few accounts with no proven intentions.

To the moon!
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded adresses. on: August 03, 2017, 02:59:00 PM
The ICO's didn't existed when Mooncoin was around. It is entirely different model.

Yes the landscape has changed quite a bit, the current state of the cryptosphere doesn't allow the old model to be successful, we're going with the times and not being left behind.
Bullshit. Can you prove your claim? If is not successful what you want from Mooncoin just go to another coin.
By the way the decentralization is the new model - Napster and Bittorrent for example.

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Private cryptocurrencies are not much different from fiat. When you take VC money of course there will be hierarchy. Mooncoin and other decentralized coins do not have hierarchy and this is the POINT.
I am sorry for repeating myself but Mooncoin is not a company, it is not private and will not be. There is no such thing as board.


The board won't strategize in public. Mooncoin will still be decentralised but we are adopting some aspects of a centralised organisation because it better fits the current climate.


Bullshit. You are doing nothing more than sloppy attempt of TO. If you centralize Mooncoin you are burring it to the ground sooner or later. LOOKS LIKE THIS IS YOUR GOAL.

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After we saw the logo vote was not legit and was manipulated, we need to revert it back.

False accusation. This began in the early days of the discord community by people who value democracy.  
There were two consecutive votes, this first had many entries including the old design, and the new design won with little opposition. The second vote, which was heavily advertised over a week, was won by the new design.  
Yeah, no one choose the macdonalds logo. You should be ashamed by selling those cheap tricks.

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This afforded Mooncoin a significant amount of support, seen by the sell walls accumulating and reduced participation across all forums. We all looked like fools arguing over a vector and no one wants to invest in a fools enterprise.  


Mooncoin is not enterprise. Fork it to Mooncoin Cash and register company behind. Do not associate with Mooncoin anymore.

37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded adresses. on: August 03, 2017, 02:14:57 PM
If you think that my posts were only about pure ideas, which you don't care of, or don't agree with,
no, they are also about will Mooncoin be 100 Sat or 0.1 Sat again,
please read these posts carefully,
the good and transparent team is great, from Discord or from anywhere else, if they understand things and don't affect MOON (and its price),
it will be only appreciated by people.

We intend on growing the ecosystem and positively affect the price.

Then I will be calm about the Mooncoin future and can even not to post in this thread not to make it look like the ANN is centralised by me.

This will be best, but the invitation for you to sit on the board remains open

The point is
not to make a big mistake, by not knowing or not understanding that this market cap $10-12 mil  is the worth of decentralised project and that the decentralised Mooncoin project can have an unlimited potential (again, the team that understands it and acts according to that is great),

Alright i think I speak for everyone when I say we will pay attention to this advice
 
meanwhile the worth of centralised project can be estimated much lower by the market and be limited by the worth of company behind the project and its sales.

nearly every ico has a publicised team with an obvious hierarchy.

Thanks for your advice.

The ICO's didn't existed when Mooncoin was around. It is entirely different model. Private cryptocurrencies are not much different from fiat. When you take VC money of course there will be hierarchy. Mooncoin and other decentralized coins do not have hierarchy and this is the POINT.
I am sorry for repeating myself but Mooncoin is not a company, it is not private and will not be. There is no such thing as board.

After we saw the logo vote was not legit and was manipulated, we need to revert it back.

38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded adresses. on: August 03, 2017, 01:38:40 PM
MIDMIR

All TO accounts are less than 6 months old. - This is an ad hominem attack[/u]



After you can not attack the arguments you simply ignore them and you are going against the person. Something the Latins used few thousand of years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem




No, it is not. It's just a curious fact which I find pretty disturbing. What a coincidence yes?

Did you get this part:

"free of any central authority or point of control that can be attacked or corrupted." - Andreas Antonopoulos

and this one:

"The team is welcome, a team that understands things and doesn't affect a coin.
A team that is wise enough to allow the coin stay decentralised, with a quite neutral control." - Mooncoin_Foundation

If you really want to help do not try to further centralize and control Mooncoin. It is against its nature.
If you not comply with the Mooncoin founding principles feel free to start your own project on whatever grounds and structure you like.

Can you help Mooncoin without centralize it by any means?
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded adresses. on: August 03, 2017, 12:28:58 PM
Decentralisation is not about black markets like someone mentioned before, no dark markets accept or will accept MOON simply because all MOON transactions are transparent, it's like an open book, black markets use true anon coins as Monero or Dash.

MOON's unique feature is that it's backed by common people, sometimes has problems due to all this mess,
but NEVERTHELESS it's very popular. People like it, for them MOON is like a good old friend, even with all problems, anyway trusted and good one.
If you position it like a company, it's a different story, it's not unique, and not a friend.

The additional way to position it is that it can be a coin for scientific and social progress, Evangelo understands it well.

And now imagine: a coin that supports scientific and social progress and backed by common people all over the world and decentralised like Bitcoin and Internet.
That can compete with top coins.

The team is welcome, a team that understands things and doesn't affect a coin.
A team that is wise enough to allow the coin stay decentralised, with a quite neutral control.




Nice one!
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Unbelievable risk/reward ratio. 37159 funded adresses. on: August 03, 2017, 12:23:12 PM
Mooncoin foundation you're invited to join the board. Any other long term supporters can apply here.

Who are you to invite? The director of directors?
After Mooncoin_Foundation clearly stated multiple times that he is against this stupid idea and politely explained to you again and again why with 100% valid arguments.

Such structures in the world are the reason Bitcoin was invented in the first place.
This reminded me of a line I just read today from "Mastering Bitcoin" 2nd edition, by A.M. Antonopoulos c 2017: (ch. 1, p. 3)

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When cryptography started becoming more broadly available and understood in the late 1980s, many researchers began trying to use cryptography to build digital currencies...

Although these earlier digital currencies worked, they were centralized and, as a result, were easy to attack by governments and hackers...

To be robust against intervention by antagonists, whether legitimate governments or criminal elements, a decentralized digital currency was needed to avoid a single point of attack.  Bitcoin is such a system, decentralized by design, and free of any central authority or point of control that can be attacked or corrupted.
Why do I even need to restate what is already a basic fundamental.  There are only a few basic elements to these modern digital currencies, remove any one of these things and this stuff ceases to exist.

Yes, basic fundamental principles to build upon.

"free of any central authority or point of control that can be attacked or corrupted." - Andreas Antonopoulos

He must be my profile.
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