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21  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: November 02, 2014, 05:59:31 AM
You're going to have a long wait...

That's not very funny. You can do better than that. Oh, I turned you in to the SEC too for the pool and exchanging bitcoins into cash to pay for the cost of the mining equipment you sold. That made you an exchange you dumbass and they agreed. ROFL

Huh good thing that never happened then. I wonder if there is any penalty for lying to the Sec. Guess you will find out. He sure to let me know.

Sorry sweetheart but I copied the threads where you admitted that you couldn't refund people bitcoins when the price went up because you exchanged them to dollars. You're fucked. LOL

Lie much?
22  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: November 02, 2014, 04:19:20 AM
You're going to have a long wait...

That's not very funny. You can do better than that. Oh, I turned you in to the SEC too for the pool and exchanging bitcoins into cash to pay for the cost of the mining equipment you sold. That made you an exchange you dumbass and they agreed. ROFL

Huh good thing that never happened then. I wonder if there is any penalty for lying to the Sec. Guess you will find out. He sure to let me know.
23  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: November 01, 2014, 05:40:01 PM
You're going to have a long wait...
24  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 21, 2014, 11:51:03 PM
LOL just saw Inaba's trust rating.  Has anyone ever had one so low?

Yes, receivership is serious.  I wonder what percentage of companies in receivership ever get out and resume business.  I'd GUESS some percentage very, very low.  Game over, finally. (I smelled it a mile away.)

The only thing you smelled was your upper lip.

As a side note,  Syke is lying again about BFL. Who knew? Oh wait... Everyone, cause that's all he does.
25  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: October 21, 2014, 03:38:35 AM
There are different type of making a chip. Most common ones are "full custom" and "standard cell". Bitfury has a full custom 55nm chip, all the rest are standard cell. Google is your friend my friend. Search and see the differences. HF chip must be a standard cell one, NOT full custom!

OIC, you are just trolling and trying to make me think I'd forgotten my ASIC vocabulary.

KnC's first chip was standard cell.  HF's GN1 is full custom.  That's why it is so much faster than the competitions!

750 GH on a single chip.  Still an unbeaten record.   Cool

It's actually 4 chips on a single substrate.  So 750/4 is the actual speed of the chip, or 187.5 GH/s per chip. 


26  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 14, 2014, 05:39:54 AM
Hahaha let me know when you can bring some to the table! You talking about logic, and reason and facts! That's  rich.


Hahahaha. Let me know when your FTC receivership is resolved.

It's been proven by the courts that you are a dishonest, conniving manipulator, Josh. This is no longer conjecture but legally documented fact, so the only reasonable thing we can do is point, laugh, and then pitiably shake our heads at you when you continue to make these sorts of grandiose statements in the face of your own hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness.

Huh.. what court would that be?  Oh that's right, you don't understand anything about the legal system, but here you are, talking out of your ass again. /sigh  There's just no help for you, I guess... I tried to lead you around like a little dog, but just like a puppy, you end up crapping all over the carpet again and again because you just don't understand.  It's a shame... at least a puppy can be trained to stop pissing itself, but you are supposedly an adult now and you just can't help yourself from posting lies and false information at every turn.  Oh well.  Just one more lie to add to your long, long list of lies.

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Josh, with all sincerity, please get help. You are a sick man. I recognize your behavior, and understand that you may not be aware of it even though it's been pointed out numerous times before. I ask this before you do any further damage to yourself. If you have any sense of self-preservation, please heed my words.

You might want to heed your own advice and seek help.  Or are you secretly crying out for help and projecting your insecurities on me?  I dunno.

You wouldn't have filed an FTC complaint, would you have?  Since you were refunded in full, you have no cause to complain. You wouldn't have been that dishonest would you? 

Gosh, I wonder who else is not a customer that filed a complaint... anyone else want to admit it?



Josh, I just want to know one thing, which one of you bastards was happily mining with my HW ?  I ordered it when difficulty was 50M, and received it when difficulty was 1B...coincidence that it was finally delivered when it was vaporware



Words have meaning my friend. You can't just use words randomly. Please learn to understand the words you are using before trying to insult me. Good try, though, but you (once again) fall flat on your face due to your own ineptitude.
27  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 14, 2014, 03:33:51 AM
Hahaha let me know when you can bring some to the table! You talking about logic, and reason and facts! That's  rich.


Hahahaha. Let me know when your FTC receivership is resolved.

It's been proven by the courts that you are a dishonest, conniving manipulator, Josh. This is no longer conjecture but legally documented fact, so the only reasonable thing we can do is point, laugh, and then pitiably shake our heads at you when you continue to make these sorts of grandiose statements in the face of your own hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness.

Huh.. what court would that be?  Oh that's right, you don't understand anything about the legal system, but here you are, talking out of your ass again. /sigh  There's just no help for you, I guess... I tried to lead you around like a little dog, but just like a puppy, you end up crapping all over the carpet again and again because you just don't understand.  It's a shame... at least a puppy can be trained to stop pissing itself, but you are supposedly an adult now and you just can't help yourself from posting lies and false information at every turn.  Oh well.  Just one more lie to add to your long, long list of lies.

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Josh, with all sincerity, please get help. You are a sick man. I recognize your behavior, and understand that you may not be aware of it even though it's been pointed out numerous times before. I ask this before you do any further damage to yourself. If you have any sense of self-preservation, please heed my words.

You might want to heed your own advice and seek help.  Or are you secretly crying out for help and projecting your insecurities on me?  I dunno.

You wouldn't have filed an FTC complaint, would you have?  Since you were refunded in full, you have no cause to complain. You wouldn't have been that dishonest would you? 

Gosh, I wonder who else is not a customer that filed a complaint... anyone else want to admit it?

28  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 13, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
You are seriously messed up in the head.No
I honestly can't see how this is even up for debate any more, given the consistent textbook display of egotism by Mr. Zerlan. Best thing we can do is just keep them talking on these forums.

Counter-trolling with logic, reason, and facts is so much more productive than being incendiary, I must admit.


Hahaha let me know when you can bring some to the table! You talking about logic, and reason and facts! That's  rich.
29  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 13, 2014, 02:00:15 PM
I just want to know what his plans are for life after Butterfly Labs. I mean the dude wrote the book on career suicide in the internet age, so it's going to be quite the interesting case-study.

If Inaba were not such an ass the FTC would never have shown up.  I, for one, made a complaint to the FTC even though I've never purchases anything from the company.  I did that, specifically, because Inaba is an ass.

Think about that while you're in prison douchebag.



Nice!  Just quoting this so you can't remove it later. Smiley  Thanks for admitting it.  "I made a complaint to the FTC because someone was mean on the internet!" LOL!

30  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 13, 2014, 03:43:20 AM
To suggest that anyone created their own FPGA chips that were anywhere near competitive (if it even happened at all?) is completely ludicrous.  Every manufacturer used an off the shelf FPGA chip or they failed to produce a miner that was competitive.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/bitcoin-mining-make-money,3514-5.html

"In late 2011 and early 2012, innovative companies like Butterfly Labs, ZTEX in Germany, a grad student in China, and some individuals in the U.S. started offering FPGA-based mining devices. While most of these were based on the $100 Xilinx Spartan6-150 FPGA, the BFL design used an Altera FPGA, which the company sourced at a discounted price."

Very simple question. Is the statement above made in bolded text true or false ?

To be clear, I'm suggesting you did not design or have any involvement with the fabrication of the FPGA silicon (Altera EP3SL150F780) used in your 800MHs singles (as per your post below); I'm not discussing anything about the nature of chip performance whatsoever. Programming the Altera EP3SL150F780 for SHA256 hashing, building the PCB and enclosure - sure, that's part of the Butterfly Labs branding.

Come on Josh. You're a smart guy. I shouldn't have to spell this out for you.

True or False ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110805.msg1211506#msg1211506


Of course we had nothing to do with the design of the Altera chip, are you insane?  I never claimed we did. But chuckle head up there claimed that we repackaged miners from someone else... then chuckle nuts MooCTals chimed in with his special brand of stupid, showing that he knows nothing about what he's talking about and claims that we somehow used knock off chips from China that "were not genuine," which is a ludicrous statement.

Xian, I'd say "come on you're a smart guy, I shouldn't have to lead you around by the nose so you can follow a conversation," but the reality is that you've shown time and again you are either intentionally obtuse (to use your verbiage) or you're just slow (IE not a smart guy) and have difficulty following a conversation that involves multiple parties and not just yourself. 

So, now that I've lead you around like a dog through the conversation, are you able to follow along at home or do you need more hand holding through this process?

31  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 13, 2014, 01:55:33 AM
Don't tell me I should feel sorry for these people. They knew they were being scammed. How could they not. It was everywhere I mean everywhere.
TBH, I ordered and received one of their 800MH/s FPGA's back in the day in fairly short order, not having done any research on Butterfly Labs at the time after seeing their presence on these forums. They released their SC line pre-order announcement fairly soon after I took delivery of my FPGA, so I had no reason to suspect any chicanery at the time, and ordered a couple 60GHs SC's, and then a couple more in April of 2013 right before the time they raised their prices across their entire line IIRC.

... and here we are today, having learned MANY lessons along the way.
The FPGAs were not their invention. They repackaged ones from another manufacturer and sold them as their own. They were never genuine.

Huh... I guess you're wrong again.

If you want to talk about chips, the idea that the chips are somehow "knocks offs" is also ludicrous and is very telling as to the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about.  One doesn't make knock off FPGAs of that type (Since it would cost just as much to create the knock offs as the actual chips cost, duh)... but lets hypothesize for a moment and say something like that is the case.  The chips performed as specced, so what complaint do you have?  No one ever claimed they made their own FPGA chips... name one bitcoin hardware manufacturer that created their own FPGA chips in that era.


Anyway, the only one being obtuse here is you, Xian. To suggest that anyone created their own FPGA chips that were anywhere near competitive (if it even happened at all?) is completely ludicrous.  Every manufacturer used an off the shelf FPGA chip or they failed to produce a miner that was competitive.
32  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: October 12, 2014, 11:26:27 PM
As usual, you are wrong. The idea that the FPGAs singles were made by another company is laughable. Have you ever been right about anything?
33  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [12th Sept] on: October 11, 2014, 12:20:06 AM
<snip>


*hugs and kisses honey*

Love seeing you fly off the handle with your lunatic ravings Smiley Keep it up !

Why would Josh's incendiary and arrogant post be deleted by a moderator or admin, and leave the rest of Josh's ravings up ?

Excellent, thanks for admitting it.  Now we can move on.  I have no reason to answer to you, a self professed liar.  You are scum and beneath my contempt.

PS: This popcorn is FUCKING TASTY ! Orville Redenbacher Hot-Air popped + Land-o-Lakes Salted Butter == Heaven !

PPS: Josh, you still didn't answer the direct question, merely dancing around it: "Did you delete the post in question, or not ? Why do you think a mod or admin would delete that one particular comment given your greatest hits here ?"

EDIT: Turns out grue stated he deleted the comment as it was off topic (?  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ) There we go. Mystery solved. *makes motions with hands of things going over his head*

Comedy gold!  You performed all of your ritual responses in one post, congrats on your hat trick.  Not only that, but you posted a stupid statement, then edited your post to show what an idiot you were... man, my work here is done. You are actually responding to your own posts at this point, heh.  Try to remember to breathe, we wouldn't want you to pass out from lack of oxygen or something, you need the few braincells you have left.

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ihavenoideahowthingsworkaroundhere


This pretty much describes your entire life, doesn't it? Be honest now...
34  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [12th Sept] on: October 10, 2014, 03:34:15 PM
Why would I delete that one post and not the others?  <stream of ad hominem delusional ravings deleted>
Are you implying that you did not delete your post, and that a moderator or admin deleted your post ? If your post was in-fact deleted by a moderator, I believe you will have notification of such in a PM. Could you kindly provide that if so ?

Would appreciate any clarifications. It's important for one to have the facts straight, would you not agree ?

*hugs and cuddles*

Excellent, thanks for admitting it.  Now we can move on.  I have no reason to answer to you, a self professed liar.  You are scum and beneath my contempt.


If you truly were not able to suss out that implication from my post, I can't help you.  If you don't like my posts, then stop posting the same crap over and over and come up with something new.

What I find interesting is the fact that every time you post something so idiotic that I end up calling you out on it or something completely false that I prove you wrong on, your response is one of two things:

"Wow, I feel sorry for XX because of YY"
or
"You are so full of rage. I am going to watch you get all angry. Because popcorn."

You even did it AGAIN this time.  So until you can actually converse like an adult and until you can back up your wild, ludicrous claims (making blind accusations is not backing up claims, BTW, look it up if you don't believe me).  Your typical response to being challenged is to ask another, equally or more ridiculous question, one that is often answered elsewhere already.  You're like a petulant child (and always have been) when you don't get what you want (Go eat a bag of dicks, said Xian!), so I treat you like one.  Start acting like an adult and I may treat you like an adult, although to be honest at this point, I'm pretty convinced you are way beyond redemption, seeing as you can't control yourself most of the time, even going so far as to get banned on Bitcointal for your outbursts.

 

35  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [12th Sept] on: October 10, 2014, 05:48:35 AM
Why would I delete that one post and not the others?  FFS, can you display your complete lack of critical thinking more blatantly? Can you stop and think for one second before you hit that reply button, or do you just post a stream of consciousness as it occurs to you?  Is it a compulsion?  I'm seriously trying to understand why your posts are filled with so much stupid on a regular basis.  Do you seriously not realize how idiotic you sound 99% of the time?
36  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [12th Sept] on: October 07, 2014, 05:35:33 AM
Still waiting for a pdf of the logs.

And I'm waiting on the excuse for this:

Just admit you were wrong or that you lied to try and make your point and you got caught (again) and we can move on.

I never mentioned the tape-out issue. Now, on to the "28nm manufacturer" issue. Your answer?

Inaba ignores anything tough.

You never admitted you lied, so we have nothing to discuss.  Once you admit you lied, we can move on... until then, you are just another liar, posting false information, so why bother trying to have a conversation with you?

37  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [12th Sept] on: October 07, 2014, 01:35:56 AM
I have a paper copy of the logs. They, of course, cherry picked the worst of it and took it out of context to try and make a case.  That should tell you something.

Please scan the paper copy of the chat logs and post it as a pdf. Let us all see what was really in those chat logs.

Does anyone have an electronic copy they can use to verify the validity of his chat log copy?

The FTC have hard drive images stored of his computers. He wouldn't risk / bother editing the logs when the originals are in the FTC's hands.

I just compared my hardcopy to what's contained in the link. They appear to be the same.  When you say missing pages, are you referring to the "Page X of 34" part or something else?  If you are talking about the "Page XX" at the bottom of every page, I don't have those, either.  You can rest assured that anything in there would not be helpful to their case, and since I conveniently can't access the records myself, I'm also in the dark.  But thanks for pointing that out, I'll see what I can do about obtaining those.

38  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [12th Sept] on: October 06, 2014, 10:36:35 PM
I have a paper copy of the logs. They, of course, cherry picked the worst of it and took it out of context to try and make a case.  That should tell you something.
39  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [12th Sept] on: October 06, 2014, 05:50:31 AM
So, lets see.  Numerous edits were not made, in fact NO edits were made.  As no edits were made, there could not have been a chance to of "leaving in place facts that were no longer true."  Since the page wasn't edited, there was no "people editing the page knew they were no longer true statements" and by logical deduction, they could not have "chose to leave them in place."

I'm talking about other quotes on the Monarch page that were left in place even when they were no longer true. I showed one example (there are many). Why don't you address that issue instead of avoiding it? Let's start with the claim "BFL is the only 28nm chip manufacturer on its 2nd generation ASIC." Why was that quote left in place during edits even when it was no longer true?

Just admit you were wrong or that you lied to try and make your point and you got caught (again) and we can move on.

You first.

Why would I do that?  I am not wrong. I showed you that I was not wrong. I showed you that you were wrong (or I am betting you just lied, because that's what you do).  So do tell, why would I admit I was wrong when that is simply not the case?
40  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [12th Sept] on: October 06, 2014, 05:49:34 AM
Your cognitive dissonance is truly amazing.

The Wayback machine - https://web.archive.org/web/20131219192442/http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/ - clearly indicates that BFL, through your website, your primary marketing channel, was still advertising the fiction that tapeout had occurred in August 2013, all the way up to the end of 2013. The date of this capture is December 19th.

If you click "Pre-Order Now" on that page, it takes you to December 7th, 2013, which contains more lies about your projected shipping schedule: https://web.archive.org/web/20131207022652/https://products.butterflylabs.com/600-gh-bitcoin-mining-card.html
In that capture, dated December 7th, BFL still claimed - and I quote:
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we feel our timeline to begin shipments towards the end of the year is solid.  Orders are shipped in order date priority so any order placed now should be expected to be delivered in February.

Contrast that with the Skype chat log found on a BFL computer by the FTC (thanks to Gleb for compiling this):

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[11/6/2013 11:09:58 AM] Josh Zerlan: Except, we don't even know if we've taped out
yet :p

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[11/6/2013 11:19:29 AM] Josh Zerlan: Honestly, if we haven't even taped out at this
point, I dont' see us shipping a product until the very end of January at the
earliest, more like middle of February.

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[11/12/2013 1:01:19 PM] Josh Zerlan: Instead of giving them false promises for
November when we didn't even tape out until November.
[11/12/2013 1:01:57 PM] Sonny: Clearly when we laid out that timeline, we fully
expected tapeout sooner than November.
[11/12/2013 1:02:11 PM] Sonny: You, me - chronicle tech etc.
[11/12/2013 1:02:14 PM] Josh Zerlan: No, I knew we would not be taping out until
late October at the earliest.

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[11/12/2013 1:11:26 PM] Nasser Ghoseiri: We can announce that we've taped out on
Friday
[11/12/2013 1:11:35 PM] Nasser Ghoseiri: and let everyone know how it goes
[11/12/2013 1:11:55 PM] Josh Zerlan: No, I don't thin kwe should mention when we
taped out. We were suppose to tape out in September. Telling them we taped out
last week is suicide.

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[11/26/2013 11:15:19 AM] Josh Zerlan: We still haven't even taped out 28nm, though.
We still have 16 and then by the time that's out, we're looking at 12 or 10.

Call me an idiot, but I don't see any way how that can not be construed as misleading, deceptive advertising.

Furthermore, by the evidence of the statements in your own chat log, this deceptive advertising was intended to collect as many pre-orders as you could, to scoop the competition, even though you all knew at the time that your projected timeline was pure wishful thinking.

What truly puzzles me is that you seemed to be the voice of reason in that debate, in stark contrast to your complete rejection of the clear evidence now.

If you insist:  You are an idiot. Happy now?

As I've explained now, how many times?  You go count, because it's more than I care to contemplate... not sure why I have to keep explaining the same thing over and over, but anyway... that page was not updated for months. It was true at the time of creation and was not updated or even looked at. It was old advertising material, so why would we go back and revisit it?  When you clicked the pre-order now button, you were taken to the actual order page with the updated information.  Do you dumb asses really not understand how advertising works?  Just because something is not true NOW doesn't mean wasn't true in the PAST.  When you create something in the past, if you don't go back and update it, it DOESN'T GET CHANGED.  I thought this was a self-evident fact of life, but apparently you mouth breathers can't even grasp this simple concept of the arrow of time and cause and effect.

Absolutely amazing. Talk about cognitive dissonance, wow.
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