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October 30, 2014, 04:25:06 PM
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"Where a district court has determined that there is a likelihood that the FTC will prevail in a final determination of the merits and thus restitution would be an appropriate remedy at the conclusion of the proceedings, the court has “a duty to ensure that the assets of the corporate defendants [are] available to make restitution to the injured customers.”

Sounds like the FTC has already realized they have an airtight case. I expect fines/suspended prison times for everyone but Sonny. Sonny will go to prison, and as this is his third time he has been caught defrauding people, it could very well be a nice extended stay for him.
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October 31, 2014, 03:23:59 PM
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I believe the previous post is right in cryptically stating " LOL ", I will say that BFL is on its death throws if that is their best they can do as a MOTION TO DISMISS


I was sitting here thinking that it would be nice to see Josh go to jail. However lets keep this in perspective. Josh has not hurt anyone physically he only defrauded the bitcoin community that spent only their extra income. Besides he obviously was just doing what the boss told him. Josh should rat out his boss and be the hero.

 It's not like he was stealing from a convent or a church. If he goes to jail then we will have to throw the bankers and politicians in Jail. They're just too big to jail.


Please tell me you're not serious.  No one should be "too big to jail".  Although  maybe that's the way the world is working, it shouldn't be the case and especially on this board I wouldn't expect people to have this attitude.  Yes, throw the bankers and politicians in jail too, those who break the law!
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November 01, 2014, 04:17:15 PM
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Waiting patiently for BFL to be featured on American Greed.

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▓▓▓▓   Supported Currencies: BTC, LTC, USD, EUR, GBP → OFFICIAL THREAD ▓▓▓▓
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November 01, 2014, 05:40:01 PM
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You're going to have a long wait...

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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November 01, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
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You're going to have a long wait...
Yeah, I suspect they'll all be featured on "America's Most Stretched Out Anuses" first.

Laugh it up while you can, Zerlan. Your job is already gone. Your ill-gotten house and toy car are next.
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November 01, 2014, 08:30:50 PM
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You're going to have a long wait...

Fine by me, as long as I can see the episode.
Will certainly be my favorite.

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November 01, 2014, 08:44:19 PM
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You're going to have a long wait...


http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.docket.html
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November 01, 2014, 09:23:00 PM
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You're going to have a long wait...


As long as waiting for a BFL miner?

[11/12/2013 1:04:32 PM] Josh Zerlan: Once or twice, ok, people can live with that...but now it's just the way BFL is. We simply don't deliver when we say we will.

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November 02, 2014, 03:14:40 AM
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You're going to have a long wait...

That's not very funny. You can do better than that. Oh, I turned you in to the SEC too for the pool and exchanging bitcoins into cash to pay for the cost of the mining equipment you sold. That made you an exchange you dumbass and they agreed. ROFL

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November 02, 2014, 04:19:20 AM
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You're going to have a long wait...

That's not very funny. You can do better than that. Oh, I turned you in to the SEC too for the pool and exchanging bitcoins into cash to pay for the cost of the mining equipment you sold. That made you an exchange you dumbass and they agreed. ROFL

Huh good thing that never happened then. I wonder if there is any penalty for lying to the Sec. Guess you will find out. He sure to let me know.

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November 02, 2014, 05:53:34 AM
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You're going to have a long wait...

That's not very funny. You can do better than that. Oh, I turned you in to the SEC too for the pool and exchanging bitcoins into cash to pay for the cost of the mining equipment you sold. That made you an exchange you dumbass and they agreed. ROFL

Huh good thing that never happened then. I wonder if there is any penalty for lying to the Sec. Guess you will find out. He sure to let me know.

Sorry sweetheart but I copied the threads where you admitted that you couldn't refund people bitcoins when the price went up because you exchanged them to dollars. You're fucked. LOL

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November 02, 2014, 05:59:31 AM
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You're going to have a long wait...

That's not very funny. You can do better than that. Oh, I turned you in to the SEC too for the pool and exchanging bitcoins into cash to pay for the cost of the mining equipment you sold. That made you an exchange you dumbass and they agreed. ROFL

Huh good thing that never happened then. I wonder if there is any penalty for lying to the Sec. Guess you will find out. He sure to let me know.

Sorry sweetheart but I copied the threads where you admitted that you couldn't refund people bitcoins when the price went up because you exchanged them to dollars. You're fucked. LOL

Lie much?

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November 02, 2014, 06:16:25 AM
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You're going to have a long wait...

That's not very funny. You can do better than that. Oh, I turned you in to the SEC too for the pool and exchanging bitcoins into cash to pay for the cost of the mining equipment you sold. That made you an exchange you dumbass and they agreed. ROFL

Huh good thing that never happened then. I wonder if there is any penalty for lying to the Sec. Guess you will find out. He sure to let me know.

Sorry sweetheart but I copied the threads where you admitted that you couldn't refund people bitcoins when the price went up because you exchanged them to dollars. You're fucked. LOL

Lie much?


Why yes you do. In fact, you do it so constantly I think everything out of your mouth is a lie. I do hope your mining pool is still operating too. They might want to talk to you about that too. Be sure and let your attorneys know round two is about to start.

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November 02, 2014, 01:26:06 PM
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Lie much?
Why yes you do. In fact, you do it so constantly I think everything out of your mouth is a lie. I do hope your mining pool is still operating too. They might want to talk to you about that too. Be sure and let your attorneys know round two is about to start.
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http://ia902308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.42.0.pdf

IV. Defendants Do Not Provide Refunds to Customers.

Defendants claim that they have provided a “full product shipment or refund” for “every
single order between August 9 and November 9, 2013.” Def. Opp. at 15. They provide no
supporting documentation establishing this fact
. Directly contrary to Defendants’ statement, one
consumer stated in his declaration that after placing an order with Butterfly Labs in both
September and October of 2013 for over $7,500, he received neither a refund nor a product after
numerous requests.21 And, even in situations where consumers were able to get a refund, they
often had to resort to other methods such as their credit card’s dispute resolution process or civil
lawsuits before they were able to get a refund. For example, one consumer had to lodge a
complaint with his credit card company before he was able to obtain a refund.22 Another
consumer had to sue the Defendant through an attorney before he was able to get their attention
and have his money refunded.23 And still other consumers have never received a machine or a
refund at all.24 Defendants may try to argue that these are isolated incidents, but there are entire
threads on the blogosphere where consumers teach each other tips on ways to force Butterfly
Labs to provide refunds to the consumer.25 These threads generate hundreds of comments with
consumers all explaining their difficulty in getting a refund from Defendants.
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November 05, 2014, 02:50:08 PM
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You're going to have a long wait...

That's not very funny. You can do better than that. Oh, I turned you in to the SEC too for the pool and exchanging bitcoins into cash to pay for the cost of the mining equipment you sold. That made you an exchange you dumbass and they agreed. ROFL

Huh good thing that never happened then. I wonder if there is any penalty for lying to the Sec. Guess you will find out. He sure to let me know.

Sorry sweetheart but I copied the threads where you admitted that you couldn't refund people bitcoins when the price went up because you exchanged them to dollars. You're fucked. LOL

Lie much?


I've been following this off and on for a few years, and am really starting to feel sorry for you.  I say this without any malice - you are clearly very sick and in need of psychiatric help.  I'm not sure what quality of help you will get in prison, so I urge you to seek professional help now, while you can choose for yourself, before you are locked up and only have the prison psychiatrist to help you.    With a lot of work, I think there is a chance for you to be restored as functioning member of society.  But you do need help - that's obvious for all to see.
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November 08, 2014, 01:11:39 AM
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Josh, if you get sent to a colorado prison, then I'll visit you within two weeks.  Cool

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November 08, 2014, 02:48:16 AM
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Josh, if you get sent to a colorado prison, then I'll visit you within two weeks.  Cool

hell rent a 'tour bus' and charge.....you'd prob get a lot of us to pony up for that trip (I can see it now about 9 tour buses...chugging down
the highway all chanting as they go down the road "any time now" and soon TM BFL....etc man what a bunch of happy drunks that would be....

(i get all misty eyed just thinking about such a 'road trip')

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November 08, 2014, 04:00:36 AM
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Josh, if you get sent to a colorado prison, then I'll visit you within two weeks.  Cool

hell rent a 'tour bus' and charge.....you'd prob get a lot of us to pony up for that trip (I can see it now about 9 tour buses...chugging down
the highway all chanting as they go down the road "any time now" and soon TM BFL....etc man what a bunch of happy drunks that would be....

(i get all misty eyed just thinking about such a 'road trip')

I'll take two tickets. I've wasted money on much less entertaining vacations.

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November 08, 2014, 08:42:30 AM
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Josh, if you get sent to a colorado prison, then I'll visit you within two weeks.  Cool

List of BURN centers for you Josh.

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You're going to have a long wait...

That's not very funny. You can do better than that. Oh, I turned you in to the SEC too for the pool and exchanging bitcoins into cash to pay for the cost of the mining equipment you sold. That made you an exchange you dumbass and they agreed. ROFL

Huh good thing that never happened then. I wonder if there is any penalty for lying to the Sec. Guess you will find out. He sure to let me know.

Sorry sweetheart but I copied the threads where you admitted that you couldn't refund people bitcoins when the price went up because you exchanged them to dollars. You're fucked. LOL

Lie much?


I've been following this off and on for a few years, and am really starting to feel sorry for you.  I say this without any malice - you are clearly very sick and in need of psychiatric help.  I'm not sure what quality of help you will get in prison, so I urge you to seek professional help now, while you can choose for yourself, before you are locked up and only have the prison psychiatrist to help you.    With a lot of work, I think there is a chance for you to be restored as functioning member of society.  But you do need help - that's obvious for all to see.



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Does this sound like Josh Zerlan? Yes, yes it does.

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