I'm not sure how much it took exactly , 24-48 hours but how this happened... I was really optimistic about the whole thing and I was kinda sure that It's going to rise as hell , now I woke up (once again, things happens when I'm sleeping) , I checked preev and I found this huge price decrease ... So what's the matter ? Pure manipulation by the Chinese?

The sad thing is that this will only stop the normal users from using bitcoin. The criminals who were using it before won't stop using it because the government says so.

When Bitcoins first started, it was seen as a form of geeky adventure. Nerds and geeks were viewed by non-IT people with different lens. But perhaps those nerds and geeks who started mining for fun half a decade ago and hoarded thousands of bitcoins are now the new millionaires.

Who's laughing now? Perhaps the overweight geeks hiding in the basements with thousands of bitcoins will be overwhelmed by hot chicks in this time and age

Bitcoin Price is fixing up, ive bought 2 BTC in this Time.
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Why do u think this Price drop was now for 2~ hours ?

the storage and data transmission costs do not increase.

EG say you bought a 2TB hard drive for $100..
the blockchain size right now is not even filling that hard drive by 5%..
meaning you do not need to buy a new hard drive right away simply because the capacity has increased. it would take years to fill a 2TB hard drive.

secondly mining pools manage the blockchain.. mining ASICs do not see the blockchain. they are just handed a handfull of bytes to process.. so its not like the price/fee/capacity affects ASICS.

worse case a mining pool in a few years has to but another hard drive.. and at $100 its not a issue for a pool raking in thousands an hour


the Visa numbers are exaggerated. and also pushing for 1gb blocks now is also a stupid idea.. it should be a slow growth progression. not a jump from being a toddler to being a giant over night.. again: slow and steady growth

put it this way.. in the year 2000 a 3gb hard drive was $200... 16 years later a 3,000gb(3TB) is $200...(bitcoin yearly bloat is 2% of hard drive MAX)
imagine the capacity you can buy in the next 16 years, for just $200

put it this way.. in the year 2000 a 56k internet was average 16 years later 5,600k(5.6m) internet is average... imagine the bandwidth in the next 16 years (remember some people can already get 100mb internet now, even if its not popular in the next few years it will be. and then in 16 years it would be higher again)

why oh why do those who dont want increased capacity only think supersmall or giant.. without thinking of logical natural growth in between
its like a toddler saying "when i grow up i want to own a billionaire business"
my reply is. "while stil a child, start a lemonade stand. put that profit/pocketmoney into something else, when your at highschool start a business.. then when your an adult use the profits to expand the business, then you actually have a chance of getting what you want"

Heh. Why'd you delete my post? I thought you had nothing against sig campaigners. Does this post look like dribble to you?


I think of signature ad campaigns as a cool implementation to the forum taken too far. Maybe there should be a rule enforced by the mods, where a campaign every week will have to update a list and send it to a person who will put up a total list of sig campaigners that can automatically be ignored by people. Some people can be whitelisted as you look onwards.

If you really think ad campaigns are killing the forum; then just don't go to the places ad posters go. The only real place you'd come to the forum for is technical discussions, speculation and maybe some altcoin and project development. Other than that, everything is just asking to be spammed. (Like off topic. There are so many other forums where you can talk shit, it shouldn't be done here.)

Oh, yes. This belongs in Meta.

I think it depends on the signature campaign rules, as you are seeing a number of signature campaign managers have made their rules strict so the members of that campaigns are very beneficial for this forum and they are providing beneficial info to the forum, and are giving good time to the posts and forum etc. I think the rules (by the managers) should have to take care of the forum.

Signature campaign makes bitcointalk alive. Loads of people who would not have usually come here have done so because they can make a bit of cash on the side,What would become of bitcoin if signature campiagns were stopped and then nobody was talking about bitcoin anymore? I have friends who only got into bitcoin after hearing about signature campaigns and now they are avid bitcoin supporters. This wouldnt have been possible without the campaigns to start them off.

But in the other hand ad campaigners also make this forum alive though. Signature campaign have the good and bad affect to this forum, but i think ad campaigners not killing this forum.

better yet he must create his own forum where sig campaign is prohibited. for the author never listen to the comments and keep insisting what is on his mind

I'm sure you might remove most of the sig campaign posters in this thread later, but I might as well give it a shot.

I think of signature ad campaigns as a cool implementation to the forum taken too far. Maybe there should be a rule enforced by the mods, where a campaign every week will have to update a list and send it to a person who will put up a total list of sig campaigners that can automatically be ignored by people. Some people can be whitelisted as you look onwards.

If you really think ad campaigns are killing the forum; then just don't go to the places ad posters go. The only real place you'd come to the forum for is technical discussions, speculation and maybe some altcoin and project development. Other than that, everything is just asking to be spammed. (Like off topic. There are so many other forums where you can talk shit, it shouldn't be done here.)

Do not generalize every single person here in the forum with ads in their signature space as the same. If you find someome whos just posting irrelevant posts, report it to a mod so they can do something with it. Some people does helps the community here even when they are advertizing. You can use the ignore button also if you don't want to see them. Afaik, there is also a plugin to disable signature in the forum, I can't rememer where to find it but there is someone who made it for people like you who don't want to see ads.

Signature Campaigns are helping the users to earn. But the problem is, sometimes the user replies on a thread without thinking if their post will be helpful or if it has sense, they are just thinking of their signature campaign However, I know it will reflect on their account's post quality. There are  also duplicate threads, just the same question asked using different words. But for all of these, I will let the mods and staffs to take the action. What can we do to help them is to not be like that. We must continue posting threads with the best of our knowledge or comment with our honest and helpful opinion.

In the start I think it was being destroyed by the signature campaigns but no the managers are more active and keep check on all the posts they get from the posters and also they have now made good rules which are protecting the forum from being destroyed.

it's the opposite, without signature this place would be as good as dead, they bring good traffis which is good

i like to call it traffic and not spammy, i don't see all that spam that people are complaining about, seriously apart from two 3 user that are clearly spamming

all the other are just posting their opinion, if you think that this is also spamming, then you are brain-lost

It is the duty of signature campaign manager that they keep an open eye on the posts of their campaign members and the moderators also have to note the activities of the posters, so it will be better for both the forum and for the advertisers.

With signature campaigns the forums are not killed but they are given life, as I have saw another forum which was about to die sooner but with some signature campaigns when started it got life again .