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201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 10, 2019, 05:48:00 PM
I heard Juve is going for De Gea and a couple other United players this January.  Could this be an opportunity for Ronaldo (and his agent) to engineer 'a return'?  Grin

Actually, the rumor bounced here in Italy too!

The good part of this rumor is that if he will come here it will be a free player and he will cost 0.
His contract will end next year!

So Juventus can sell Szczesny for 35-40 M € https://www.transfermarkt.it/wojciech-szczesny/profil/spieler/44058 and take DeGea for 0.

What's about of salary?

Szczesny as today cost at Juventus around 8m€ with taxes.

DeGea now gains 11.6 m € without taxes from ManU.

If he keeps the same salary for Juventus will be 11.6+25%(11.6)= 14.5 m € with taxes.

So basically DeGea will cost 6.5m €/y more then Szczesny, but Juventus can take around 40m € from the sell.

Now if we do 40/6.5 we will have around 6 years if DeGea comes and signs a contract of max 5 years this operation it will +EV for Juventus.

After all those math done, i still believe that De Gea would be a great addition to Juve.
Sczencny is a valuable player and has saved Juventus in many difficult matches but the difference in those prices are not so of a deal for Juventus.

The price difference for Juventus is very important. If you get De Gea for free and sell Szczesny, of course that is an absolute advantage for juventus.

But, what is said by @Naida_BR has a point. That it is also possible for Juventus to get de gea and Szczesny to stay together, it will be even more beautiful.
202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money on: September 10, 2019, 03:21:35 PM
I realized that was indeed wrong. If we look at it from the perspective of each religion, how is gambling wrong and it shouldn't be done. But, if we look at it from a Hobby's point of view, I think it's OK.

Sometimes the circumstances that make us have to force this, If people can only get money from gambling, how? Do we have to ban the person.

So, in this case all future risks and sins are borne by each person. it is someone's decision and right.
203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 10, 2019, 02:11:40 PM
I heard Juve is going for De Gea and a couple other United players this January.  Could this be an opportunity for Ronaldo (and his agent) to engineer 'a return'?  Grin

Juventus seems very complete in all positions to my eyes. I wonder why they are going to buy more players, still Manchester United is a good market for buying some quality.
As for Ronaldo, It would be interesting to see them returning to Utd, but I don't think that he is interested in that move.
I see that Ronaldo is very comfortable at Juve and will most likely retire from football at Juve (seeing Christiano Ronaldo is 34 years old now)... so, the possibility he will not be interested in returning to MU is very large.

With Ronaldo current status and physique, he could still play very close to age 40 or thereabout at top level, he's just that fit and his winning mentality wouldn't change a bit, that I'm sure very of. It is to be seen if he'll end his career at Juventus ( I strongly doubt he will, though).

In my opinion Ronaldo will remain at Juventus even until his retirement (If he can win UCL for Juventus) After that he will be seen retiring or moving to another club for his retirement. It must be admitted that Ronaldo's age is no longer young, but his mentality and enthusiasm never fade. That is one of the advantages that Ronaldo has.
204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reasons Crypto Players Skip Casinos with KYC on: September 09, 2019, 05:24:20 PM
I'm ok doing KYC to a legit gambling site because they are more compliant, there are gambling sites that do not implement KYC, but if you've won a big amount, they will likely ask you for KYC because of the AMC thing and they do not want to violate the rules of the country where they operate.

Some people do not mind doing KYC on gambling sites. And there are those who really don't want to do it. As long as you only play a small amount of games, I think it's legitimate and if it is required, then do it if you feel it's necessary.
205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 09, 2019, 09:17:35 AM

Also, keep in mind the lists can be changed after the group stage if a team pass them, already happened on Juventus in the past with Stephan Lichtsteiner and Cuadrado.

If this has happened in the past. Surely Emre Can no longer need to worry about this, If (Emre Can) is still feasible, I'm sure the composition of these players can change later.

After his statements that he is angry and furious about Sarri's decision I don't think that he is going to have a place in the list.
It was absolutely Sarri's fault, he made similar mistakes at Chelsea and as a result he lost the respect of his players early in the season.

Is Emre can really angry? Many mentioned that it was the right thing.

Related to him not being included in the troops at UCL, it is certainly unfortunate. Emre was very instrumental in the Juventus midfield.
206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone here have some strategy to gain money, but with low profits daily? on: September 09, 2019, 04:06:46 AM
i have analyzes that increase your chance of winning.
i can guide high rollers with shared profit.
pm for details.

Why not gambling with own money if you tactic is so good instead of looking for someone who takes the risk??

Maybe he does not have the money to invest and in this shared way he want to earn some money. But I will advise to stay away from it. There are so many cheaters and scammers out there that you will hardly find any honest person who can do a fair business and deal.

If he has a way to win and get money with a higher chance. He will not tell anyone for this strategy, because it is the same that he spills the beans. In gambling, everything has to do with money. If you are not careful then you will lose money.
207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Often Do you Bet on Politics? on: September 08, 2019, 04:37:38 PM
I came here because the title is the topic that makes me curious.
I never bet on politics, I'm really confused about how to bet on politics

How does political betting work?
Are there really sites that provide political bets?
Are there any special countries related to this (politics)

I want to know about political gambling, can this really be profitable?

Politics used to be quite popular market in most betting platforms. It is based on political events such as elections, policies, resignations, impeachments, etc. Check through some popular betting sites, I think you will see some.

Wow, very impressive. I just learned this that the stakes in politics are huge.

I left betting in politics only related to the election, apparently there are many more that can be wagered in politics other than the election.

I will try to see more about betting in politics, thank you for the notice.
208  Other / Meta / Re: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed on: September 08, 2019, 11:53:51 AM

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Personally, it is not a problem. Because it was translated from the original ANN of the project. So, automatically every sentence will be the same or slightly different.

If that is still permissible then let it go. But if it is forbidden, it should be locked for ANN whose posts (second local ANN post)
209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 05, 2019, 03:51:21 PM
The case of racism in the Italian League received a strong response from the former Senegalese national team player, Demba Ba. He encouraged black players to leave Serie A.

Romelu Lukaku received racial harassment when Inter Milan won 2-1 victory over Cagliari in the Italian League continued. Before carrying out the task of being a kicker, Lukaku got ridicule that sounded like a monkey's voice. Lukaku was flooded in support, but not from the Nerazzurri ultras.

It is so ironic that Inter 's ultras didn't support their player.
Maybe they don't know the reason why their club was created.
Absolutely sad, not only for Italian but the European football. We live in a globalized world with so many old stereotypes...

it is true, that Serie A is accused of not being serious in overcoming the racism case. The case experienced by Lukaku is the umpteenth incident that occurred in the Italian League, especially in Sardinia.
There have been many cases of racism in the Italian league, it is feared that this will continue in the future. If the Serie A does not take any action.

I just read several articles related to this problem. It is true, racism in Italy has often happened. And Lukaku is the umpteenth time victim.
Supposedly a league as big as Italy must solve the problem of racism. So that this does not happen again. And there are also many former players who criticized this and demanded that relevant parties resolve this matter.
210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Things That Comes Into Your Mind When Winning... on: September 05, 2019, 01:23:32 PM
Tonight I won a small jackpot playing online poker and the first thing that came to mind was to sell the BITCOIN
I normally dont feel the inclination to sell my BITCOIN but I have a bad feeling that the price will drop below $10000 again  Lips sealed
While I was winning I must admit I was thinking about chocolate cake with vanilla topping  Smiley

LOL  Cheesy
If you win the jackpot, a big number that I don't often win. maybe I will do the same with you, which is to sell Bitcoin. In order to enjoy the results of the jackpot and after withdrawing I usually regret selling because bitcoin has increased. But you are good at selling bitcoin before dropping below $10k.
211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reasons Crypto Players Skip Casinos with KYC on: September 05, 2019, 05:27:50 AM
There are no advantages when doing KYC in the game. Everything went as usual, just a condition. Therefore many gambling players will not do it. Because gambling doesn't need KYC, it's different if we are investors.
212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: September 05, 2019, 03:37:11 AM
Barcelona seem to have big problems at the start of the league.
Messi is very important to them but it seems that his absence is not the only reason for the poor results.
They spent a lot of energy and time on Neymar, angering many of their players, like Rakitic for example, and now they have a lot of disgruntled players and a bad team atmosphere.

I totally agree with you.
There is so much discussion about Neymar and his transfer and the worst part is that every week the media indicates different players for an exchange transfer. Rakitic is one player and that's totally bad for his mentality.

Yes, it's true that Barcelona started the league less well. Unlike Barcelona in general, they must rise again. Neymar transfers do not take place, so all Barcelona related parties can focus back on la Liga, they must rise and start with positive results.
213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 05, 2019, 02:02:11 AM
I must admit that the manchester city army was indeed great and that has been proven. They are hard to beat if in the English league, but as you say they are at UCL they are only able to compete in the last 16/8. The rest they do not have the mentality now for UCL.
I don't think that Manchester City will be different in the Champions League, they seem to be more focused on UCL than EPL, their team is very solid and they have a coach who has experience in winning the UCL trophy.. even Michael Owen predicts that Man City will be the UCL 2019/20 champions.

EPL this season is Liverpool's time. They were as unstoppable in the last few games and managed to be at the top of the current English League standings by collecting 12 points.
The Manchester City team been solid or the coach level of experience in terms of UCL tournament doesn't justify their performance to be off the hook in the upcoming UCL if they don't do the right preparation for the game because every other clubs also want to be the winner of the trophy.

If you say the coach's experience, of course that's true. But the player is playing. It is definitely needed by players who play a lot in the champions league. The EPL and UCL surge are very different, really hoping Manchester City this season can prove that. Because seeing the previous season, they did not have the mentality for the champions league.
214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 04, 2019, 12:27:05 PM

I think the big teams prioritise the PL & the CL, it’s difficult to compete & try to win the domestic cups too. Only really Man City have a big enough squad to go for everything.

Manchester City does have a complete army. I believe that Man City in the domestic league is very impressive, but in the Champions League they don't have the mental strength to do it. It has been proven, they are not able to compete in the champions league.

I agree with what you say.
I must admit that the manchester city army was indeed great and that has been proven. They are hard to beat if in the English league, but as you say they are at UCL they are only able to compete in the last 16/8. The rest they do not have the mentality now for UCL.
215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 04, 2019, 02:06:15 AM

• Icardo (Inter Milan) to PSG almost done deal. Medicals right now. Official announcement in a few hours.


I believe that icardi's deal is the most interesting one.
Finally he managed to get a transfer and in a big club that he will be able to have the opportunities to show his talent. It will be also very competitive in PSG so he needs to be a hard-worker if he wants to be in the first line up.

ICardi transfers have already taken place and the loan status and at the end of the season have only been fixed permanently.
Finally, the icardi trip at Inter has finished, a good choice to PSG. It is hoped that Icardi can contribute a lot to PSG, especially for the Champions league.
216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 03, 2019, 11:53:22 PM
I would agree that Chelsea's team need some time to come over the transition stage, but Manchester United didn't make so many changes.
And the coach was the same from the previous season, so he had already the notion of how the team plays. He know the needs and the weaknesses but still they showed so ppor performance in the beginning of this season.

However Chelsea actually don't have much time either. At least they should be able to get into the top 4 this season. And Man United as you said, they have a poor performance at the beginning of this season.
217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 03, 2019, 09:11:49 PM
Anyway, after this market window, I think the order of favorites will be the following.

Juventus>Inter>Napoli.
Finally! A third league title contender appears!

It's been ages since we had another team aside from the usual two to [at least] put up a decent fight against the Vecchia Signora...Btw, it's been only a few games but, i'll say it right now, Inter will finish 2nd. Conte is just too good, and once Godin takes charge of the defence, they'll have a solid squad in every inch of the pitch.

Inter in 2nd might not be a sure thing yet, remember that Napoli is also a good team and they only lost by one goal against Juventus in their last game. While Inter's two wins are just against Lecce and Cagliari whom they only got away with 1 goal. It still early in the season and most of the contending teams in the top spot haven't faced each other yet. I wouldn't place my bets yet on who will take the 2nd place but definitely it would either be Napoli or Inter since both teams have a European class line up and both of their coaches are world class, it would even be fun to see one of them snatch the first place from Juventus.

Juventus, inter, napoli are champions' favorites.
It's just that we are waiting for other teams to surprise us this season. So it really can not be fully predicted, all still have the chance to win Serie A. For example, Torino, they already get 6 points from their 3 matches. It really proves that the other team can surprise every game.
218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 03, 2019, 12:40:32 PM
MU and Chelsea were very unlucky in the first 4 matches of the season. but this cannot reflect how they will play in this season. other teams also have the chance to slip like they didn't reap the full results in a row.
yes they are in a transition zone, not many teams are successful in a transition stage like this, adn they still have many chance to catch up to the end of the season.

I don’t think Man U have been unlucky at all, they lost at home to Crystal Palace & drew to 10 man Southampton. They’re just not very good.

Manchester United is known for being a strong team. But unfortunately those last few seasons lost that statement. In 4 matches Manchester United were only able:
win: 1
lost: 1
draw: 2

really a poor performance for Manchester United at the start of this season
219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 03, 2019, 11:37:04 AM

No news about Neymar, Pogba, or Dybala so far. Seems like they will stay in their respective clubs.

So far it is true that they will remain in their respective clubs.
even though there are so many rumors related to their transfers, but rumors are still rumors. Maybe we will see their transfer in January (hopefully that happens)
220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 02, 2019, 12:02:58 PM

Man Utd dominated for a long time under Ferguson, Chelsea have had good periods too. It’s now time for City & Liverpool to battle it out. Football goes in cycles, it’s just Liverpool & City’s turn.

There is no doubt that under the tutelage of Ferguson, Manchester United was extraordinary. But unfortunately all that has passed, now it is true that the heyday of Manchester City and Liverpool.
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