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201  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you did not listen before, now is last chance to reduce your loss on: February 13, 2018, 08:29:53 AM
i disagree on this thread. now is the time to buy more and hodl because the upcoming pump is being ready to release. just be patient and relax. don't blame and steal money of others. just play and trade with professionalism and earn in the clean way. not on the trash habit. lets just help each other to earn in cryptoworld.

I you look at the very clear data I have posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2939289.0  you can see why HODL is a very poor strategy
202  Economy / Speculation / Bitcoin to go below 4000$ on Feb 20 on: February 13, 2018, 08:24:47 AM
The continuing decline where Bitcoin goes to deeper and deeper levels is very clear. If the pattern continues, the next bottom will be on February 20 where it will drop below 4000. Continuing, then the next bounce will only reach up to around 7000, followed by an even deeper drop.....




203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you did not listen before, now is last chance to reduce your loss on: February 13, 2018, 08:02:08 AM
I think this is a word of despair, and pessimistic when it comes to bad market conditions today. He can not be patient and panic.

do not listen to what they say, After we enjoy the results, and today bitcoin test our loyalty. go or stick with bitcoin

we better hodl and buy more bitcoin, because bitcoin will be green and high.

Look at the graph I just posted - that clearly shows why HODL is the worst possible strategy long term
204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you did not listen before, now is last chance to reduce your loss on: February 13, 2018, 06:53:42 AM
I told you so - many times in here. It was a bubble, and you should get the hell out of BTC.

The responses in here were mainly hysteric screaming of "FUD".

It is now clear from more and more posts in here that people who came late to the bubble-party are in losses on their Bitcoins. Well, told you so.

This is not the time to HODL. The party is over. Your choice is whether to sell now and take a loss, or wait until you have lost everything.
Yeah i told you this , i told you that ? Where are you when the price of Bitcoin reached 19k? Inside your blanket and crying because you didn't trust BTC ? Then now it back to 8k$ and you're showing that you're a notradamus of predicting price ?




Another posting by Anarchist shows very clearly what is going on. That you are now at 8k$ means nothing. You are on a secular decline. At 19k you had reached maximum market penetration - all opportunists in the world who falls for the get-rich-quick schemes were becoming aware of Bitcoin.

Now it is clear that Bitcoin has absolutely no practical use at all, and price will only continue downwards. These small bumps up and down does not change the long-term trend is only going down.



I am not saying its all over ... but the one moth graph is quite depressing



You are looking the chart for only one month. When you check longer than that the story is quite different

205  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buy a can of Coca-Cola for 500$ - it's cheap on: February 09, 2018, 09:21:25 AM
This is how many Bitcoin people in here are arguing:

I saw some people buy a can of Coca Cola for 2000$ just a month a ago.

Now I can buy a can of Coca-Cola for only 500$, it is cheap!!


Bitcoin is not cheap at 6000$. It is make-believe toy money with no real value apart from some novelty value for people who like to have cryptos for fun.

A can of coca cola is just $1 mate. Why you pay so much? Its very special coca cola or what?
Its real story or what? In my country, any kind of softdrink just worth $1, i dont drink cocacola but i drink another softdrink.

You clearly do not understand the post

And if you can't even understand such a simple comparison, you are a very good example showing why Bitcoin is purely driven by people with no financial understanding hoping to get rich quick. You will eventually be sorry you put money into it.
206  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buy a can of Coca-Cola for 500$ - it's cheap on: February 09, 2018, 05:21:10 AM
This is how many Bitcoin people in here are arguing:

I saw some people buy a can of Coca Cola for 2000$ just a month a ago.

Now I can buy a can of Coca-Cola for only 500$, it is cheap!!


Bitcoin is not cheap at 6000$. It is make-believe toy money with no real value apart from some novelty value for people who like to have cryptos for fun.

This is the third thread you have started just this morning filled with nothing but FUD.

How exactly is this FUD? I am making the argument that just because an overvalued asset decline to a lower - but still overvalued - level, does not mean that it is a good price.

Do you have any argument or are you just crying "FUD" because you mistakenly believe that if you shut up opinions you don't like than you make-believe cryptomoney will rise in value?

Let's talk about something that's FACT. You spend your time bashing on something on a forum that's dedicated to it. Where's the logic in that?

One of the first things my mother taught me was that if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. While it's maybe not applicable to people who actually make logical arguments against bitcoin and want to discuss their perspective. It's certainly applicable to statements such as 'it is make-believe toy money with no real value apart from some novelty value for people who like to have cryptos for fun'

You didn't answer the question - your trust in Bitcoin is clearly so low that you are afraid that a few words against it will hurt the value. And in that you are correct because the only "value" is based on people's perception of value and every day since the peak at 20.000 more and more people abandon it because they have seen that the party is over
207  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Apple founder has sold all his Bitcoin on: February 08, 2018, 03:52:14 PM
Even if he has sold his Bitcoins, he should not have made the news public. They do not realize how many people are affected by the reduced prices due to such a news.

This just shows another weakness of Bitcoin. If people should keep it secret when they sell so as to not affect people negative, that shows a very insecure investment and a very weak product
208  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buy a can of Coca-Cola for 500$ - it's cheap on: February 08, 2018, 03:45:48 PM
This is how many Bitcoin people in here are arguing:

I saw some people buy a can of Coca Cola for 2000$ just a month a ago.

Now I can buy a can of Coca-Cola for only 500$, it is cheap!!


Bitcoin is not cheap at 6000$. It is make-believe toy money with no real value apart from some novelty value for people who like to have cryptos for fun.

This is the third thread you have started just this morning filled with nothing but FUD.

How exactly is this FUD? I am making the argument that just because an overvalued asset decline to a lower - but still overvalued - level, does not mean that it is a good price.

Do you have any argument or are you just crying "FUD" because you mistakenly believe that if you shut up opinions you don't like than you make-believe cryptomoney will rise in value?
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Ruthenium on: February 08, 2018, 03:33:06 PM
Did the fork actually happen  Huh

Yes - it is now a very stable coin
210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Apple founder has sold all his Bitcoin on: February 08, 2018, 12:00:58 PM
Apple's co-founder Steve Wozniak confirms he has sold all his Bitcoin.

See the full part here: https://www.investopedia.com/news/steve-wozniak-has-sold-his-bitcoin/

As I have said several times, all the whales are getting out. They know the party is over.



211  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buy a can of Coca-Cola for 500$ - it's cheap on: February 08, 2018, 07:22:28 AM
This is how many Bitcoin people in here are arguing:

I saw some people buy a can of Coca Cola for 2000$ just a month a ago.

Now I can buy a can of Coca-Cola for only 500$, it is cheap!!


Bitcoin is not cheap at 6000$. It is make-believe toy money with no real value apart from some novelty value for people who like to have cryptos for fun.

There are serious discussion to be had about the market price, the technology, the reasons for the dip, and where we are headed from here. Unfortunately, starting a conversation with nonsense analogies and laughing at other users does not lead to a serious discussion.

There are no such serious discussions in here. The level of brain power in here are limited to saying "Bitcoin to the moooooon" and crying that all arguments against Bitcoin are FUD and should be removed.

212  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Strange Shape of the Bitcoin Graph on: February 06, 2018, 01:30:00 PM
I reported this whore freightjohn, I dont understand why he is not banned yet spreading all this fud in the forum. Large investors selling? Do you think seriously that the corporate clients of big companies that have 200-10000 bitcoins will sell now? What a fuckin idiot, someone ban him please.

The clever ones of those already sold when we were still about 10.000

The ones who will lose are idiots such as you who believe that shutting up information you do not like will magically save your toy-money.....
213  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stock market crashed! People buying more Bitcoin instead! on: February 06, 2018, 01:24:49 PM
Great news. Stock market crashed, I guess its karma for them for purposely manipulating bitcoin price to fall, now they got the karma and lost their money. So people are now turning away from stock market and turning to this digital currency called Bitcoin. Now people are going to buy more and more Bitcoin and Zcash.

Bitcoin lost 40% in a week, the stock market lost 5%.

Do you understand the difference?
214  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Strange Shape of the Bitcoin Graph on: February 06, 2018, 01:21:32 PM
If you've looked at share price graphs, you'll notice that they tend to rise gradually, interspersed with sudden large falls.

The Bitcoin price graph over the last month is the opposite of that.  It's a gradual decline, with the occasional sudden jump.

Any opinions on why that is?

Simple - large investors are slowly selling out. Be selling only gradually they price will slowly decline. Then sometimes a lot of Bitcoin fanatics - like the HODL'ers in this forum - think it is the bottom so they "buy the dip". This sends the price up for a short while.

Then the large investors continue to dump their coins. This will not end until Bitcoin gets down to close to zero and only the fanatics trade with each other for fun.
i dont want to believe this because if this is true, it mean we may likely see bitcoin going below $1000 this year

Well you may not want to believe it - but even if you close your eyes, you will still be hit by it.
215  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Buy a can of Coca-Cola for 500$ - it's cheap on: February 06, 2018, 12:27:33 PM
This is how many Bitcoin people in here are arguing:

I saw some people buy a can of Coca Cola for 2000$ just a month a ago.

Now I can buy a can of Coca-Cola for only 500$, it is cheap!!


Bitcoin is not cheap at 6000$. It is make-believe toy money with no real value apart from some novelty value for people who like to have cryptos for fun.
216  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Strange Shape of the Bitcoin Graph on: February 06, 2018, 12:22:13 PM
If you've looked at share price graphs, you'll notice that they tend to rise gradually, interspersed with sudden large falls.

The Bitcoin price graph over the last month is the opposite of that.  It's a gradual decline, with the occasional sudden jump.

Any opinions on why that is?

Simple - large investors are slowly selling out. Be selling only gradually they price will slowly decline. Then sometimes a lot of Bitcoin fanatics - like the HODL'ers in this forum - think it is the bottom so they "buy the dip". This sends the price up for a short while.

Then the large investors continue to dump their coins. This will not end until Bitcoin gets down to close to zero and only the fanatics trade with each other for fun.
217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fear not,bitcoin will rebounce on: February 06, 2018, 12:06:14 PM
There is huge FUD in the market, even though I bought btc around 3-5 k I am scared too..
But I keep reminding my friends this...
Hodl hodl hodl :/
Btw, I am really sorry for our friends who bought from 19k... Everything will be fine, just be patient

Unless you want to lose your money like your friends, better take the profits while you still have the chance. Playtime with the make-believe money is over.
218  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Read this before you think to sell on: February 06, 2018, 12:00:46 PM
you will realize
how much stable Bitcoin actually is.


HA HA HA - this is one of the most absurd statements I have seen in here, but it does show how delusional many Bitcoin fanatics are, even when it is now becoming obvious that playtime with the make-believe money is over.
219  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you did not listen before, now is last chance to reduce your loss on: February 06, 2018, 11:49:54 AM
Hi,

But I think you are quite missing what bitcoin truly is, what is the inner concept.


No - looking in here it is very clear that you and many of the other Bitcoin fanatics believe the "inner concept" will magically take you to the moon and make you rich. In the real world we are now seeing how much that is actually valued - people who understand finances are now taking their winnings and are all cashing out, leaving you with your make-believe money in your sandbox.

The inner concept is very simple. Bitcoin is an advanced form of store credit - only difference is that there are not really any stores you can use it in, apart from sinister services on the dark web.
220  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't know why some people are placing low sell orders ? on: February 06, 2018, 07:49:33 AM
mark my words, you are going to regret your action soon,
Hodl tight or place higher sell orders ,don't fall to pumpers FUD, they are trying to fill their bags at cheap price......
Remove all low sell orders and place higher sell orders or Hodl.....

People have realized the choice is selling now at a loss - or waiting and then getting an even bigger loss later because the party is over.
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