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201  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitfloor hacked on: September 05, 2012, 12:21:03 PM
yup ... any thoughts on what that will do to the market ... or sense it was a day or so ago do you think the market has already reacted ?

Plus trading at Mt.Gox is paused right now

I think that will remind everyone that MtGox can be hacked as well.  I know now after a year from the last hack it looks invincible - but there is so much money there that it is also a very attractive target.

This will not change much the thinking of the old timers - but it will give a second thought to everyone sending his first USD stash to MtGox or other exchange.

There's not much of a chance that MtGox keeps all bitcoins in their unecrypted hot wallet, I guess. So, even if they are hacked, they wouldn't lose all coins like Bitfloor.
202  Economy / Securities / Re: Unrealistic orders on GLBSE on: September 01, 2012, 08:07:05 AM
they are trying to catch some hack events.

yes, like someone will ever have 999,999,999 bitcoins to buy a share  Grin
203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoins break $5,000 in 20 years? on: August 31, 2012, 06:26:57 PM
There's already solid competition in namecoins, litecoins etc.

Oh really? Where's the equivalent of MtGox for litecoins? And namecoins aren't a currency.


There are several exchanges for litecoins. None is so big as MtGox in bitcoin world which is actually better for the whole economy not to be dependent so much on one exchange and price manipulation movements there. Regarding namecoins, bitcoins can also be considered as a commodity, not a currency, in digital world it really doesn't matter. BTW, you can add Linden dollars and Liberty Reserve to the list and more are coming as we speak Wink I wish bitcoin all the best (I own a bunch of them and its a intrepid pioneer in this field) but bitcoin will not be the only electronic currency in the future and it's quite probable that it won't be the biggest one either. There's still long way ahead and who knows what the future holds  Cool
204  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoins break $5,000 in 20 years? on: August 30, 2012, 07:18:04 AM
It depends how much will other electronic currencies improve meanwhile. There's already solid competition in namecoins, litecoins etc. In future I predict there'll be a lot of competing electronic currencies and bitcoin might still be ahead of others regarding general adoption, features, infrastructure etc. but I wouldn't definitely bet on that Cheesy
It will go way beyond what Friedrich Hayek described in his "The Denationalization of Money" paper for sure Grin
205  Economy / Securities / Re: TYGRR.BOND-PI 1 BTC face 100% Insured Pirate Bonds BTCST on: August 28, 2012, 09:16:16 AM
Not trying to be an ass here, but I believe Goat is technically violating the contract by buying back bonds at 0.9999999 BTC instead of 1.0 BTC, as he is obligated to do.

Bond face value is 1 BTC.
If BTCST defaults the bond will be worth 1 BTC.
If BTCST does not default the bond will be worth 1 BTC.
100% of the face value of the bond will be insured.

Okay I will take down the wall at .9999999

If you want these bonds bought back at 1 BTC you will need to do the following.

PM me on the forum or e-mail and let me know how many bonds you will be sending and a return BTC address.

Once I okay that send the bonds to my GLBSE account.

Once I have the bonds I will send you the full BTC amount.



Thanks Gladamas for helping me see the errors of my ways, I almost got a scammers tag there!

You can still apply the forced buyback and recall the security (should be without fees AFAIK), but some people may not like it  Smiley
206  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] MtGox Volatility Trading Bot [GMVT-BOT] on: August 27, 2012, 06:11:26 PM
I notice you mention that percentage commission on trades somewhat limits you, but then I also notice you like to place huge numbers of tiny trades.

So I am wondering whether the fee structure used by Open Transactions, in which there are no percentages but there is instead a "usage token" fee per API call, would tend to seem better or worse than the "traditional" commission-percent type fee structure?

-MarkM-


I don't know what's Open Transactions  Grin Any links?
207  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] MtGox Volatility Trading Bot [GMVT-BOT] on: August 27, 2012, 05:12:14 PM
Motion was raised to issue 700 additional shares for operation of BitcoinCentral bot. Please vote.

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Vote yes if you agree to issue additional 700 shares for bot that will operate on http://bitcoin-central.net/ BitcoinCentral is small exchange that charges no trade fees, therefore it is supposed we can have higher profit than on MtGox. On the other hand being a small exchange there might be higher risk that this exchange will close down and block our funds. Account will be secured by 2-factor authentication and as per contract asset operator is still responsible for unexpected bot behaviour.

You can see the BitcoinCentral bot performance stats in the original post.
208  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] MtGox Volatility Trading Bot [GMVT-BOT] on: August 27, 2012, 05:09:09 PM
The secret is keeping the range large enough, so that the price will not slip out of it and in case price is approaching the end of the range start moving the range. I don't want to explain everything in detail (so everyone will just start to copy it) but I set it up so that moving range upwards is much easier than moving it downwards. Even after the market price slips out of the upper range boundary I can still move it upwards and cost will be minimal (this may be considered as a loss but is so small that it will be quickly covered when normal operation resumes). The last market rally and crash was quite a test and we passed it very comfortably, just for one day price went below 8 USD which was the lower range boundary but it quickly recovered back to around 10.

Thanks for the prompt reply!

So, lets assume that the volatility suddenly spiked far beyond what we saw even on the crash day - in this case, you could potentially have a large loss as you continuously attempt to get in at lower and lower prices awaiting a rally, correct? Because even by having a very large range relative to recent price action, the potential to go far outside that range still exists (and in many studies, these types of volatility spikes have been proven to occur far more often than would be expected by random chance). At what point will you cut losses? There must be an exit strategy here both for winning trades and for losing trades.

I'm not saying I won't invest if you admit to the potential for losses exists; rather, I'm saying the exact opposite. I know that it's impossible to avoid them, so I'd feel much more comfortable knowing what the scenario is that would causes loses so I can properly judge the risk here. Saying "never loses money" doesn't ring right with me at all, it makes me imagine that the volatility bot is doubling down as prices move farther and farther out of the bbands (or whatever you use for volatility measurement), which means no losses for sure until one day it goes poof...

Sorry if my questions are harsh but I must do some due diligence here (it's just business), I mean no harm Smiley. Thanks GeoRW!

If the price goes downwards out of the range we will end up with only bitcoins and no fiat money. In that case I would raise a motion if we want to wait for the price to go back upwards into our range, and/or to spend all the profit we made during that week to extend the range downwards or to shut down the asset and distribute bitcoins to shareholders. That's the exit strategy if price goes below the range. In this case we will end up with more bitcoins because we bought them lower than we sold them.
It may happen also that price will go steeply upwards and bot will not be able to catch up moving range upwards. This scenario less likely because I made it so that the range can move upwards faster (and much less costly) then downwards. In such scenario, bot is spending (some) profit for moving the range upwards. Also if bot will not be able to catch up moving range upwards and price will slip out of the range and will remain at higher levels for several weeks and forseeable future (looking at the MtGox market depth), we may extend the range upwards and continue trading at that higher prices as well but in this case the dividends/profits will be lower as the trading amount will be lower (I may raise a motion to spend let's say 50% of profits for strengthening the range). In this case investors will still not lose a single bitcoin but may expect lower dividends until we catch up with the price increase or until the price correction occurs. Right now we USD bot covers range approximately between 8.5 and 18 USD.

Also I would note now that at higher prices we have smaller orders and (at MtGox) we pay higher fees, so expect lower profits at higher prices if volatility stays the same. And also I don't understand why this asset is traded as high as 0.25. That's 2.5 times higher then was the IPO price and unless you expect such huge volatility as was last week to occur often don't buy it at that high price  Roll Eyes
209  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. on: August 27, 2012, 02:03:49 PM
what does have me wondering is why did pirates website and pirates dads website go down? very odd...

Maybe odd, maybe not. I'm not clear which site was his dad's? Without knowing that though, from what I have seen, it was likely just hosted on the same VS and that got cut off. And or Trendon was managing or responsible for the site and cut it..?

or perhaps some asshat decided a ddos would be an appropriate course of action for righting their perceived wrong?

No, I'm pretty sure it was taken down and not being attacked by ddos. Why it was taken down, I don't know.

Edit: If it was to try and hide phone numbers and addresses clearly that did not work.

Maybe police took it down after someone filed a criminal report on him. They are maybe gathering evidence and trying to prevent him to hide his treasure chest. Did anyone see him online afterwards? If someone called police on him, they might have confiscated his computer, servers etc.
210  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] MtGox Volatility Trading Bot [GMVT-BOT] on: August 25, 2012, 05:16:52 AM
Good for you, and I am also considering making a short-term BTC/USD trading bot for my fund. In the meantime, I will consider investing here... but one big problem:

Bot is very secure, never makes a loss, makes money on volatility.

There are many ways to scalp volatility, but I've never ever heard of a system that doesn't have any losing trades. Could you please elaborate?

The secret is keeping the range large enough, so that the price will not slip out of it and in case price is approaching the end of the range start moving the range. I don't want to explain everything in detail (so everyone will just start to copy it) but I set it up so that moving range upwards is much easier than moving it downwards. Even after the market price slips out of the upper range boundary I can still move it upwards and cost will be minimal (this may be considered as a loss but is so small that it will be quickly covered when normal operation resumes). The last market rally and crash was quite a test and we passed it very comfortably, just for one day price went below 8 USD which was the lower range boundary but it quickly recovered back to around 10.
211  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] MtGox Volatility Trading Bot [GMVT-BOT] on: August 24, 2012, 07:31:02 PM
Second dividend was paid. This week was hugely volatile, started with a market crash, then volatility continued due to uncertainty around pirateat40. This is probably the highest dividend for a while. I didn't expect this bot will perform above 1% weekly, now we got 6.29%  Grin Enjoy the dividends. Cool
212  Economy / Securities / Re: Fully Verified GLBSE Securities on: August 23, 2012, 04:32:52 AM
For some to meet all verification items is impossible, for example my country is not in the list of countries Nefario can make a call to, I don't use facebook either (creating an account just for verification might be considered cheating), I don't have an international passport (for traveling in EU and most other european countries you just need your national ID, no international passport is required). I've added Nefario in LinkedIn but no response from him yet. I might verify my address and e-mail if investors will require but right now I manage only less than 200 bitcoins.
213  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: centralized post of pirate payouts or other related news to the closing. on: August 22, 2012, 05:02:34 AM
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[10:44] <@pirateat40> Anduck, I really thought this initial process would happen faster than it has. Sad
[10:44] <Anduck> pirateat40: what's causing the delay?
[10:46] <@pirateat40> Anduck, the price movements.
[10:46] <Anduck> pirateat40: u been selling or buying`
[10:47] <@pirateat40> Anduck, just blocking buys and selling the coins out of the system.

Look at pirate shit himself.

Trying to generate coins on the market? lol .......fail!


Edit: "Selling the coins out of the system" A.K.A. ...buying bitcoins! System = USD

system might be BTC as well. Maybe he needs to sell some of his bitcoins (his profit or his client's money?) in the first phase for as high as he can. If he started to pay back he's in risk price will plummet after those people who already got their coins will start flooding the market with them. Who knows, we may as well be close to 3 USD in 2 weeks from now. But that's just a speculation  Cool
214  Economy / Securities / Re: S.DICE - Want a piece of SatoshiDICE? IPO this week before new site launch! on: August 20, 2012, 10:00:08 PM
Maybe I would invest into this but being on MPEX is risky as hell and I don't want to support spamming of the blockchain with huge amounts transactions either (my SSD drive has only 128 GB). Cool
215  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] MtGox Volatility Trading Bot [GMVT-BOT] on: August 20, 2012, 06:05:21 AM
Out of curiosity how did you do in the two flash-crashes? This weekend has been a pretty good test of bots  Cheesy

If market's going down we are buying coins cheaper, so profit in BTC is high now. What I'm worried though is that the price will go downwards too much and it will slip out of the range the bots are covering. So I'm slowly extending the range downwards which may cut down our profit a bit if price recovers quickly upwards but I would rather have this as a long term project. If the price will go below around 8 USD and below 5 EUR quickly and will not recover in under a week I will  raise a motion if  investors want to wait a bit longer for markets to stabilize or liquidate the asset or move the range downwards (this third option will be costly but may make us more profit in longer term). I will let you know exact figures if that will happen for you to decide.
216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Europe decoupling from mtgox on: August 19, 2012, 07:23:49 PM
nope, bitcoin.de is just slow to react to MtGox price changes. You cannot trade real-time like at MtGox, you buy and sell bitcoins in a similar way like on ebay. Users send money to each other and then confirm the transaction. After confirmation bitcoins are moved to the buyers address. Therefore arbitrage cannot be much automatized. There's no trading API either.
217  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] MtGox Volatility Trading Bot [GMVT-BOT] on: August 18, 2012, 05:37:15 AM
First dividend was paid. It is rather low 'cause the price went most of the time straight upwards. But good news is that with recent market crash and huge volatility we are profiting a lot. Also we breached 100 BTC trade volume barrier and having only 0.55% trade fees as of now. Next trade volume barrier to 0.53% is close (92.74% - almost there). Also BitcoinCentral bot is almost ready and working nicely, I have fed him with 70 bitcoins and plan to implement 2-factor authentication this week. If remaining shares from IPO will not be sold this week I will buy them myself. The week after I plan to raise a motion to issue additional 700 shares (70 BTC) for BitcoinCentral bot. Have a nice weekend.
218  Economy / Securities / Re: (GLBSE) TYGRR.BOND-P 6.8% weekly uninsured pass though bond to BTCST on: August 17, 2012, 03:20:49 PM
I find it interesting that after the rate change, the prices on this bond dropped to a point that the actual return is roughly at 7% again.  Cheesy Definitely a steal, IMO.

Pirate has lowered his rates because the bitcoin price jumped up. He said before that he is vulnerable to sudden price increase. So whatever he is doing is more risky now and therefore the dividends should be higher to compensate for this risk. I think that either he is behind the last rally and is buying back the bitcoins to repay his debt and close down his operation properly or if it's not him, he might be in deep trouble now. Enjoy the high dividends while you can  Wink
219  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How Large is BTCST exposure? on: August 15, 2012, 08:52:38 PM
Why would he go bust if he's free to change interest rates at will?
He could change them to zero for example.
Wish I could do that with my loans.

Because he will eventually need to return the debt? Or are you saying that he will not pay interest and will not return the coins he borrowed and still not default?  Grin If he sold bitcoins earlier at lower price for let's say providing loans denominated in USD, this price increase will hit him badly, so badly that he may be unable to repay his bitcoin debt.
220  Economy / Speculation / Re: no arbitrage occurring between Intersango GBP and mtgox? on: August 15, 2012, 08:32:06 PM
Looks like they are out of ammunition, crazy times  Grin
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