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201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 18, 2018, 09:33:49 AM
Byteball is an amazing tech, should be in top 15. I think in december Byteball will see ATH in btc prices.

Sad but true: I would bet against that  Grin

Byteball was more than 0.38 BTC in summer 2017 - now it's 0.0063. If my calculation is correct we need +6000% against BTC.

In only two months? Never say never ... but ... never.

shows how overpriced btc has become
You're right about that, of course. The BTC price (like that of other coins) is pure speculation. Driven almost exclusively by people who are only interested in Fiat winnings.

In contrast to GBYTE BTC meets however on genuine demand. For Bitcoins there are platforms where you can buy goods and services.
202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 18, 2018, 09:26:15 AM
Byteball is an amazing tech, should be in top 15. I think in december Byteball will see ATH in btc prices.

Sad but true: I would bet against that  Grin

Byteball was more than 0.38 BTC in summer 2017 - now it's 0.0063. If my calculation is correct we need +6000% against BTC.

In only two months? Never say never ... but ... never.
I think that was sarcasm.  Grin
203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 18, 2018, 05:54:59 AM
Byteball is a project that I really like I supported from the begining, however it is totally lacking in terms of publicity. Long gone are the days that a gret project can just flourish without massive PR.
Management does not respond to personal requests.
One can only hope that the community will continue to build up appropriate pressure.

Marketing and development must finally be adapted to demand.
204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 17, 2018, 10:01:37 PM
[...]
in terms of getting bytes into the hands of new people, the new distros are better (though slower)
ROFL
These new people only want one thing: to exchange their Bytes for Fiat at the next best opportunity.
What else is there to do with it?

So all Bytes will be collected by the small community of Byteball fanboys.

I am really curious when community and development come to consciousness...
205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 17, 2018, 03:28:21 PM

Thanks for the suggestion but since most users (like Ben) are not going to be sponsors, we don't want to introduce extra steps for them.

I was thinking the opposite. Make users like Ben sponsors and let them spread the platform.

But if you say they are not going to be sponsors, I have nothing more to say.

I know what it feels when your suggestion is rejected, but what I say is based on data:
out of 72000 steem attested users, only 6700 had ever referred someone else;
out of 25000 real name attested users, only 1700 had ever referred someone else.

I've talked with many people about the possibility of certifying their identity with the real name bot but the idea of providing a copy of their ID card repels most of them. Even with the money incentives. People care about the security of their official documents. Jumio is literally an unknown company based in the USA. The disrespect of foreign citizen rights expressed by the USA government and the last news about GAFAs security leaks don't help to trust the Jumio company.

As I stated on Twitter few days ago, I will certify my identity in next days (waiting my new ID card, previous one outdated since October 10th) due to the warranties provided by the smart voucher about the bytes use I will give to people.

By the way, I'm a binational citizen. Should I certify my identity twice ?
[...]
note: many people in crypto are probably more paranoid about identities than non cyrpto people in the real world (which is the vast majoirty of the worlds population)
And that's exactly why the majority of the world's population doesn't (yet) want to have anything to do with cryptos... unless they want to buy goods that they can only get with cryptos. But that again requires that there be an easy way for them to exchange their Fiat for Bytes/Blackbyties, as in the case of this project.
206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 17, 2018, 11:35:07 AM
[reminder] BlackBytes Exchange BEEB is to close on october the 25th.

All customers MUST withdraw their blackbytes before this date or they will be lost (use the 'w' key when paired with BEEB).

[repeating] After this date blackybtes will be lost.

Thank you for your attention.
[...] BB can't be exchange on traditional markets  thus OTC is very important for us.
The developer (supported by the community) prefers to deal with side issues instead of finally running something that could have this currency ahead of all the others.

The management would rather feed people's greed than the usability of the platform.

Blackbytes could easily be exchanged for Altcois and Fiat if a wallet-internal solution is created like the decentralized app BISQ does.
207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 16, 2018, 12:04:20 PM

What kind of insane person comes up with such an idea?

I am almost sure that this new program is linked to real name attestation because all the other programs have been misused. Do you remember what happened with the telegram quiz? Or are you aware of the problems with the steem thing?

The problem is the greed of so many people and the willingness to do a lot of things just to get some "free bytes".
Distribution should benefit those who use this currency as what it exists for: Offer and purchase of goods and services. - Of course, not where Visa & Co. dominate, and not at the retailer around the corner.

The target focus should be the market that already exclusively uses crypto currencies. Here for the x-th time "Open Bazaar" is mentioned. - I remember the "Bitcoin Cash" distribution to people who opened a shop on this platform.

The distribution to those who hope for a performanceless (finally Fiat-)income is a waste of time and energy and certainly does not increase real demand.

It is clear that very few of the community will support this idea. Who has so much self-determination and initiative to open their own shop?
One wants to draw something for free, and exactly this virtue is served by the Byteball management. And that's exactly why it won't work with the desired broad distribution. Because nobody knows what to do with the received "Bytes".

I would very much like to offer my goods on Open Bazaar for "Blackbytes", but I can't do that.

Currently Bytes and Blackbytes are hardly usable, and it doesn't look as if something is changing so fast, for which not only the naming is responsible...
208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 15, 2018, 07:01:51 PM
[...]
Look at github and see how many time spend tonych in this project.
[...]
It's bad enough that no one in the community can get this guy on track and motivate him not to waste his time with nonsense.

The real world needs a solution, not the not yet existing dream world..  Roll Eyes
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 15, 2018, 06:13:41 PM
Introducing Smart Vouchers: A New Way To Earn Referral Rewards By Sending Bytes To New Users

Smart Vouchers is a safer way to get referrals than sending them $8 in Bytes (which they might not spend as intended).

As before, attestation rewards are sent to smart contracts vesting in 1 year.

Referral rewards are sent back to the smart voucher and allow to fund more attestations.  Net profit from referral rewards can be withdrawn to a smart contract vesting in 1 year.

Read the full story https://medium.com/byteball/introducing-smart-vouchers-a-new-way-to-earn-referral-rewards-by-sending-bytes-to-new-users-38972ec645a7



the beauty is the referer only needs to do the KYC one time.

so someone could spend 10 minutes doing KYC, generate a voucher code and share it on instagram, facebook etc.

50% success rate is $12 or 75% ROI, 100 people $1,200

this may not go viral immediately but in time it well might
There's nothing "beauty" about KYC.

What kind of insane person comes up with such an idea?
210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 15, 2018, 04:27:52 PM
Who is going to sit around and wait twelve months for twelve dollars?



thats just for one referral

10 referrals is $120 etc. many people put a lot more effort into earning $120 than posting a voucher code on facebook
And so one mischief follows another...

"I make myself the world as it pleases me".

Self-reflection and insight = 0
211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 15, 2018, 04:12:58 PM
Introducing Smart Vouchers: [...blub...]
Bullshit again.

The demand is certainly not increased with such a thing.

"Simplicity is beauty"
You should finally follow your Sig yourself.

I am almost full of it.
Question to the community: Are there Byteball clones whose leadership has a little more sense?
there is better coins, like bit[Suspicious link removed]d place to exchange your bytes on bitcoins is cryptox
As already mentioned here, I prefer BISQ. I am not dependent on the arbitrariness of centralized exchanges.

I was especially interested in Byteball because of "Blackbytes" (what a terrible name). But if you can't use them to offer goods and services, they are useless.

No customer can be motivated to exchange Fiat in BTC, these then in Bytes, which must be converted then again in Blackbytes.
For the customers the exchange in BTC is already too annoying.


Blackbytes is an excellent name, and they can be used for goods and services
Right, you just have to believe in it.   Roll Eyes
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 15, 2018, 02:13:05 PM
Introducing Smart Vouchers: [...blub...]
Bullshit again.

The demand is certainly not increased with such a thing.

"Simplicity is beauty"
You should finally follow your Sig yourself.

I am almost full of it.
Question to the community: Are there Byteball clones whose leadership has a little more sense?
there is better coins, like bit[Suspicious link removed]d place to exchange your bytes on bitcoins is cryptox
As already mentioned here, I prefer BISQ. I am not dependent on the arbitrariness of centralized exchanges.

I was especially interested in Byteball because of "Blackbytes" (what a terrible name). But if you can't use them to offer goods and services, they are useless.

No customer can be motivated to exchange Fiat in BTC, these then in Bytes, which must be converted then again in Blackbytes.
For the customers the exchange in BTC is already too annoying.
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 15, 2018, 12:45:37 PM
Introducing Smart Vouchers: [...blub...]
Bullshit again.

The demand is certainly not increased with such a thing.

"Simplicity is beauty"
You should finally follow your Sig yourself.

I am almost full of it.
Question to the community: Are there Byteball clones whose leadership has a little more sense?
214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 15, 2018, 06:20:55 AM
A lack of usability results in a lack of demand.

The demand, again, is generated from those who recognize a usability. - Certainly not from those who have hoped for a non productive income through the Airdrop.

The customer consuming the goods generates demand. There is a real demand for crypto currencies where goods are offered almost exclusively against crypto currencies. Here I only mention "Open Bazaar". - Also this potential is not recognized by the management and the development and supported accordingly.
The creation of not usable gimmicks seems more important.

Roadmap:
1. name change (byteball, bytes, blackbytes are not possible at all)
2. easily switch to Fiat and vice versa via the wallet, using the code from BISQ.
3. to be able to buy from Open Bazaar via this currency, as is already possible with BTC, BCH and ZEC.
215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 14, 2018, 12:25:31 PM
BISQ also enables a "face to face" exchange, i.e. cash <-> crypto.

If this is what will make it mainstream then anybody who actually implements it would become a rich man/woman, but maybe there is little bit more to it than it looks.
Who offers goods online for Cryptocurrencies knows the problem of his customers.
Most of them refuse because the purchase is so complicated. With Bitcoin, it's already awkward, and that's enough for most people.
A solution based on BISQ and integrated into the wallet would finally eliminate this bottleneck.
216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 13, 2018, 04:48:51 PM
The Blackbyte exchange you are referring to was run by a community member, who closed it due to lack of volume
Which doesn't change the fact that there's only one now. - You say it yourself: Lack of demand.
Increasing demand would now be the task of marketing, but that would rather be limited to saying that there is no demand. - Very imaginative.  Roll Eyes

Exchange Blackbytes for fiat? You seem to be missing the point of privacy coins
In the context of a wallet-internal solution (see the decentralized Exchange BISQ), this would be quite feasible (if it were wanted).
This has already been proposed several times here. Feedback: 0

The question of how Blackbyte distribution will continue is still unanswered...

please elaborate re 'context of a wallet-internal solution'

where was it proposed? please post a url

dealing with government fiat requiries regulation and identifity verification, so how is this private?

Take a look at BISQ (an exchange that is listed on Byteball homepage).

With BISQ you don't need "identifity verification". Anyone can exchange Fiat for BTC. The identity is known exclusively to the respective exchange partners. The bank does not know what exactly is traded.
Also otherwise there is no central contact point which could be queried.

On this basis, not only blackbytes but also bytes could be traded against Fiat. And then one would finally have an urgently needed interface for the direct exchange of Fiat <-> Byte/Blackbytes.

Tony knows very well. Ask him.
Unfortunately he prefers to get bogged down in gimmicks rather than real applications, which would pave the way for a mass adaptation to give appropriate space.

The question of how Blackbyte distribution will continue is still unanswered...
217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 13, 2018, 11:45:04 AM
The Blackbyte exchange you are referring to was run by a community member, who closed it due to lack of volume
Which doesn't change the fact that there's only one now. - You say it yourself: Lack of demand.
Increasing demand would now be the task of marketing, but that would rather be limited to saying that there is no demand. - Very imaginative.  Roll Eyes

Exchange Blackbytes for fiat? You seem to be missing the point of privacy coins
In the context of a wallet-internal solution (see the decentralized Exchange BISQ), this would be quite feasible (if it were wanted).
This has already been proposed several times here. Feedback: 0

The question of how Blackbyte distribution will continue is still unanswered...
218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 13, 2018, 10:49:54 AM
I found the name repulsive from the beginning. The only reason why I was involved with the project at that time was the "Blackbytes". But they probably don't play a role anymore. The various inquiries in this direction are ignored obtrusively.


Bytes and Blackbyte are the only balances that show after fresh wallet installs now, not sure why you said Blackbytes dont play a role?
The various inquiries, as it looks with the further parallel distribution of the Blackbytes remain unanswered also after months.

A Blackbyte-Byte exchange has closed in the meantime.

There is still no decentralized possibility to exchange Blackbytes directly for Fiat. Also one does not know whether anything at all can be expected in this direction.

Acceptance points for Blackbytes?
There would be certainly. The team should orient itself only in the right direction.
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 13, 2018, 10:40:33 AM
[...] We need a real community, not the steem bots and twitter shitposters!
A serious commuity doesn't exist anymore after all.

Suggestions to place the thing on a solid foundation are arrogantly ignored. Instead one Gambling Bullshit comes after the other.

Improvement? Absolutely not in sight.

Marketing means a demand-oriented corporate policy, something that Tony's team doesn't understand at all.
220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 13, 2018, 08:56:48 AM
The inability and ignorance of management correlates with demand. - The whole thing increasingly seems to me to be the ego project of an individual.

Community undesirable.
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