Hi all. I'm considering dropping the K1s. Right now we don't have enough orders to make the target price, and there are only a few hours left before I stop taking orders. Would doing this affect anyone's decision to have K16s made via my service?

K1s are single-chip, USB-powered Klondike boards.

Bicknellski, have you managed to source heatsinks for the K1s yet?

Thanks. Yeah, it looks like we won't be getting any K64s made. Fortunately everyone who has ordered a K64 so far has specified that it's alright to swap their K64s out for K16s, so that's what I'll be doing.

I'm not sure where everyone is taking their chips. There may be a little bit of psychological inertia keeping people with raging's assembly service, despite his unresponsiveness.


Thanks! I appreciate your appreciation. 

No ETA on pressing boards yet. As you said BkkCoins is still working on his design. I don't want to pull a Terrahash and get a bunch of boards pressed prematurely. I'll start pressing boards once BkkCoins has confirmation that the current K16 design can be chained.

Yes, I have received your payment. For anyone else who has the same question, here is the list of all the people I have received payment from so far:

redphlegm
OtaconEmmerich
timewaster
spinner
ThatBitcoinGuy
DPoS
Vycid
spanishfry

If you believe your name should be on this list, please message me.

If you still want to buy from me, please do so soon. I will be closing orders on July 7th to allow some time for selling the excess PICs I've ordered to other assemblers.

Centralization of this kind will always happen. Power compounds. I'm just glad friedcat doesn't seem to be the sort of person who just wants to watch the world burn. If such a person ever ends up in the same position some day in the future, Bitcoin is in trouble.

Do you know how much overhead your components have...?

Very nice! Can your board handle overclocking?

Okay. If you want to change any of the things on your previous order, go ahead and email or PM me. But if you got, say, 16 chips and want one more K16, then you should be able to just place another order. I'll be packaging up things according to address, so if you have multiple orders from the same group buy, they will ship together.

Haha. Thanks. All of this is a gamble, of course. But I feel like having the ability to overclock will make us more competitive in the longer run, and give us a better shot at turning a profit.

+1. Delegate what you can. Your time is valuable!

I just want to make sure we're clear on this: you won't be able to "hot-rod" your miner if we go with version 1, unless you're willing to remove some of the chips from your board. Based on the discussion in the Klondike thread, it sounds like version 2 will, aside from using different components, have a slightly different PCB design as well.


I admit I'm also hoping for a timely version 2. I personally would like overclockable miners, so if the consensus here is to go with version 1, then I may just order more boards and have mine populated with 14 chips instead of 16. (Depends, of course, on how difficulty looks at that point in time.)

Whoah. Did not know that. That's really crappy. :-/

Assuming the majority votes to go with revision 1 of the board and not wait for an overclockable version, yes.

It depends on how cool you can keep your chips and whether the rest of the hardware on the board can handle the increased voltage demand from the chips. Right now the Klondike's hardware cannot handle the increased voltage demand that would come with overclocking. However, I've seen a number of Avalon miners on the boards say they've bumped their chips up to around 350Mh/s and 375Mh/s without much trouble. Yifu has insinuated that the chips can easily do better than their base clock rate, too, and I've heard people talking about a theoretical limit of 450Mh/s.

But you're right, overclocking would be dangerous and you would likely shorten the lifespan of your chips. If we decide to wait for the overclockable revision, the miners I ship would still be at their base clock speed. It would be up to you to overclock them.

Regarding overclocking: it does not appear that the first revision of the Klondike boards will be overclockable. BkkCoins is planning on making an overclockable revision once the current revision has been proven to work.

Do you want to wait for an overclockable version of the Klondike boards? This will likely mean we get our miners later than if we didn't wait, but it also means we will have the option of overclocking to achieve performance gains of 20% to 30%.

Please let me know your preference so we can decide on a direction.

Thanks,

Ryan

Yes, I have your order in the database and marked as paid.

Looks like it's just you and me for now, plus eabedry if they follow through.

Sorry about that! I was pretty inundated, and it looks like a few messages fell through the cracks. I'm looking at your email right now and composing a reply.


Yup! You will need to supply your own case (if you want one) and PSU, but everything else is included.

Good news! I just heard back from Colin. With the number of K16s we currently have ordered and paid for, he's willing to beat Tate's price by $3 and do batches in sizes as small as 10 miners per batch.

So if we go with Colin, the minimum batch size for group buys would be 10 (assuming I can get overnight shipping from Canada on 10 miners for $30 or less). We're way above that number already, so the deal is on! I will be calculating the cost of overnight shipping between Colin and myself to figure out the *real* cost and then I'll get back to you all about the possibility of partial refunds based on the price drop.

Thanks, everyone, for your support. I'm excited to get these chips on boards and hashing. :-)